THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

McGentrix wrote:

No justification? Maybe to you, yet there we are. Along with many other countries, who unlike you, believed there actually was justification for pre-emptive action.

YOU said this.

McGentrix wrote:

In response, the US declared war on Islamic Terrorism, not Osama Bin Laden.

I responded by saying that the Bush administration did not declare war on Islamic Terrorism, as you had stated, rather, they clearly declared war on Iraq.
Fighting Islamic Terrorism was an ex post facto justification.

My point, simply stated is this: Bush declared war on Iraq when he should have declared war on Osama bin Laden personally, Al Qaeda collectively, and Islamic Terrorism ideologically.

McG, It should be quite obvious. I'll let the others explain it to you.

revel wrote:

not that the subject is funny but just the way you worded it. "wolfowitz on the car like an ornament and condi making sandwiches..."

hey revel! naw, i don't think the subject is funny.

i'm just so dern frustrated with the bunch of monkeys running this thing, i had no where else to go but to embrace my inner wise a$$.

reminds me. you said something on another thread about having to "drive 2 hours to get to a decent mall". man... where are you? like cumberland or something?

Bottom line, al Qaeda attacked the US. Not Iraq.

ican711nm wrote:

Our military has itself witnessed the al Qaeda camps in northern Iraq before destroying them.

Could you please a source for that.
(Or are you meaning the ultra-orthodox Kurdish group Ansar al Islam?)

My point, simply stated is this: Bush declared war on Iraq when he should have declared war on Osama bin Laden personally, Al Qaeda collectively, and Islamic Terrorism ideologically.

Having issued directives to guide his administration's preparations for war, on Thursday, September 20, President Bush addressed the nation before a joint session of Congress. "Tonight," he said, "we are a country awakened to danger."80 The President blamed al Qaeda for 9/11 and the 1998 embassy bombings and, for the first time, declared that al Qaeda was "responsible for bombing the USS Cole."81 He reiterated the ultimatum that had already been conveyed privately. "The Taliban must act, and act immediately," he said. "They will hand over the terrorists, or they will share in their fate."82 The President added that America's quarrel was not with Islam: "The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them." Other regimes faced hard choices, he pointed out: "Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make: Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."83

President Bush argued that the new war went beyond Bin Ladin. "Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there," he said. "It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated." The President had a message for the Pentagon: "The hour is coming when America will act, and you will make us proud." He also had a message for those outside the United States. "This is civilization's fight," he said. "We ask every nation to join us."84

I didn't mean to imply that you thought it was funny.

I am not sure but I think Cumberland is over in eastern kentucky? I am more in the southwestern part of Kentucky. It is just that where I live it don't seem to be growing as much as other parts of Kentucky and pretty much stays the same year after year. The superwalmart is about as big city as we get.

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

revel wrote:

not that the subject is funny but just the way you worded it. "wolfowitz on the car like an ornament and condi making sandwiches..."

hey revel! naw, i don't think the subject is funny.

i'm just so dern frustrated with the bunch of monkeys running this thing, i had no where else to go but to embrace my inner wise a$$.

reminds me. you said something on another thread about having to "drive 2 hours to get to a decent mall". man... where are you? like cumberland or something?

Why "alleged?" Do you think their quotes are in error?

really, you have video? or just intuition.

My being a pacifist in no more relevent to this discussion than the colour of my hair or the size of my genitalia, unless you have specific interest I am not inclined to answer.

Have you always hated Mexicans?

feel free to evaluate my posts in any manner you see fit though I doubt your evaluation will differ from whatever method you have used in the past.

Dsylexia, you should feel safe living in Mexico. When I was last in Mexico, the subject came up about muslim immigrants, and the mexican people in the conversation didn't even know what a muslim was. Latin America is the last bastion of christian civilisation. When islam starts to spead there, its basically all over.

New Mexico is a state in the Southwest United States. It borders on Mexico.

DrewDad wrote:

New Mexico is a state in the Southwest United States. It borders on Mexico.

"borders??" que es esta?? oh.. wait.. borders are something that the bush administration fails to see any importance in guarding in america or iraq...