@maxdancona,
Quote:This thread is an attack on progress.
No, it's a critique of negative developments which have accompanied "progress".
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This thread is denying or minimizing any progress that we have made.
No, it's about addressing the unintended consequences of irresponsible decisions which were made solely because they could be sold as "progress".
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The game is to generate outrage by exaggerating problems and focusing on crisis big and small.
Wrong again. There's no "game". And you're the only one emotional enough to evince any "outrage". What would be the point of generating this "outrage"? None of this is new, FFS, we've grown up witnessing the rising awareness that things can't continue in the same manner.
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The worst of this narrative is that it is counter productive.
It's ridiculous to think that anything posted here has any effect on anyone other than prompting you to denounce anything which doesn't fit your "ideological narrative©".
Quote:This is scorned by the anti-progress left as "using technology to solve problems" (which really should be a good thing).
Well, I'll give you a little credit here; yes it
should be a good thing. But some skepticism is necessary. When the same economic forces and assumptions which propelled us into this unfolding series of crises are now held up as the best method of reversing course, that should give us pause. We've heard this crap before. "Trust us; we know." Only to leave it to posterity to fix the environmental damage caused by plastics, fertilizers, dams, power plants, landfills, and so many other structures and processes which we were promised would only make our lives easier.
Quote:All of these things have increased the quality of life even in developing countries.
No, they haven't "increased the quality of life". They've changed the quality of life, often for the worse. They've simply replaced the difficulties faced by people two hundred years ago with new problems. Like industrial pollution on a global scale, overpopulation, obesity, and urban slums which dwarf their pre-industrial precedents.
Quote:The frustrating thing about the left is they focus so much on the story of gloom and their condemnation of the entire human race that they take away from what we need to do.
No one's "condemning" the entire human race and "gloom" is simply your personal take on the stories presented here.
Quote:No one seems to want to have that discussion.
Not with you. You simply ignore questions which are inconvenient or don't have a simple answer which fits your "ideological narrative©".
Quote:The soap box is much easier.
This thread wasn't meant to be a "soap box". It was meant to function as a billboard or dazibao. You're the one ranting about the articles; I was content to simply let the thread speak for itself.