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ATHEISTS ONLY

 
 
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 10:54 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank, would you say you have no need for a god?

No longer searching?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 10:54 am
The agnostics should start a thread for themselves and let the atheists run their own threads.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 10:58 am
@edgarblythe,
Aren't there at least 2 kinds of agnostics?

I mean, those who insist that there is no way to determine whether a god exists . . .
compared to . . .
those who may be still searching?
timur
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 11:00 am
@neologist,
And then there are those you keep telling us what an atheist should be..
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 11:18 am
@neologist,
I neither know nor care how many kinds of agnostics there are. It is of no consequence to me.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 11:55 am
@neologist,
I certainly have no need for a god...

...and I think a "search for a god" is just asking to sink into delusion.

I am content to acknowledge that I do not know if there is at least one god...or if there are no gods. I am also content to acknowledge that the "evidence" is so ambiguous I cannot use it to make a meaningful guess.

So I just don't.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 11:59 am
@edgarblythe,
The atheists here in A2K should stop being crybabies...and recognize that anyone is allowed to make comments in any thread.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDrFufXlIKSHlWlKpS_U6OzlenOHK2mPLGzv8dA4lmnAmu8vMp
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 12:01 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Aren't there at least 2 kinds of agnostics?

I mean, those who insist that there is no way to determine whether a god exists . . .
compared to . . .
those who may be still searching?


Here's the kind of agnostic I am:



I do not know if there is a GOD or if there are gods;
I do not know if there are no gods;
I see no reason to suspect gods CANNOT EXIST;
I see no reason to suspect that gods MUST EXIST...that they are needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction...

...so I don't.


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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 12:23 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OK. Allow me to pull your chain for a moment:
. . . .
So you're an agnostic who is a functional atheist.

As compared to an agnostic who is a hopeful deist.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 12:33 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

OK. Allow me to pull your chain for a moment:


Pull ahead!

Quote:
So you're an agnostic who is a functional atheist.


I am??? Where does that come from?

Quote:
As compared to an agnostic who is a hopeful deist.


I do not know what that sentence fragment means. But I am willing to discuss my agnosticism with you for as long as it takes for you to understand what kind of agnostic I am.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 01:12 pm
@Frank Apisa,
OK. You claim that the existence of any god cannot be known
So, you live your life as if there were none.

I'd say that makes you without theism, a functional atheist.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 01:28 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

OK. You claim that the existence of any god cannot be known
So, you live your life as if there were none.

I'd say that makes you without theism, a functional atheist.


Who says I live my life as if there were none?

I live my life as if there might be a god and there might not.

And where did I say the existence of god cannot be known?

If there is a god...and the god wanted to reveal itself to someone...I see no reason what it couldn't.

What I did say was that logic, reason, and science cannot lead to "there is at least one god" nor to "there are no gods."

neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 01:36 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
I live my life as if there might be a god and there might not.
Are you talking about conscience?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 01:44 pm
@neologist,
I simply live my life, Neo. I walk, talk, play golf, interact with other humans and animals, and discuss things on the Internet.

If there is a god...there is a god.

If there is no god...there is no god.
thack45
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 02:06 pm
Know who else does that?
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 02:16 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Did you ever notice. . .
When you pick up a watermelon seed?
They're in season, already . . .
How it flies half way across the room?
Mom always wanted us to go outside with them.
We'd have battles.
Pttween! Ptweep!
I could aim pretty good at 10 feet
'Swhy my brother always won.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 03:07 pm
@neologist,
Huh?
neologist
 
  1  
Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 03:21 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Won't try to pick you up, old friend.
You'll slip to where I can't find you.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 03:27 pm
@neologist,
Huh?

Are you speaking in tongues?
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 6 Jun, 2015 03:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Ain't you ever squoze a watermelon seed for distance, Frank?
What part of New Jersey are you from, anyway?
Some ritzy part, I bet.
Had to eat watermelon with a fork, maybe.
 

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