edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 06:57 pm
@Lash,
I hope that lead can grow substantially.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 10:06 pm

Analytics Whiz Nate Silver Just Figured Out Bernie Sanders' 'Miracle-Path' to Victory

The number-crunching prodigy has calculated Bernie's "path-of-least-implausibility."
By Robin Scher / AlterNet
March 30, 2016


Supporting Bernie Sanders is a heady mix of emotions, like being in an on-again, off-again relationship.

Things were good last weekend. Sanders won Washington, Alaska and Hawaii in what would be the best performing day of his campaign thus far, but the road ahead remains long and filled with speed bumps. And by speed bumps, I mean Sanders’ delegate deficit.

Sanders currently trails Hillary Clinton by 228 pledged delegates; 2,383 delegates are required to win the Democratic nomination, which means Sanders will need 998 more. Put another way, in order to “take things to the next level” with Sanders, he needs slightly less than 57 percent of the remaining delegates’ pledged support.

Basically, in an optimistic future where they make a film about Bernie Sanders’ road to victory, right about now would be a good moment for that Rocky-style montage.

"We are certainly in this to win it," Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said earlier this week to press, "and there is a path to do so." Strong words from Bern’s man in the corner, but does he have the support to back it up?

The Sanders campaign has received more than $4 million in donations since Saturday. So it’s clear that when it comes to popular support, there’s no shortage of people feeling the Bern. The real question is, whether that fever can extend to those 998 delegates.

Earlier today, famed statistician Nate Silver (currently the editor-in-chief of ESPN's FiveThirtyEight blog and a special correspondent for ABC News) offered up his calculations mapping out Bernie’s miracle path to victory. Disregarding the remaining likely Sanders-friendly states (such as Oregon, Rhode Island, West Virginia and Montana), the real fight, according to Silver, will come down to the states with the bulk of the remaining delegates: namely, California, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Maryland. According to the polls, it’s going to be a real tough couple rounds for Sanders.

Then again, polls aren’t everything.

In a Huffington Post article, Seth Abramson pointed to the shift in Sanders’ support on voting days. Abramson cited the Democratic primary in Florida, which saw 18 percent of voters change their minds in favor of Sanders, according to exit polls.

“The point here,” said Abramson, “is that Hillary Clinton has been losing the primary for a month now in votes cast after the race began to favor Sanders on March 5th. This means that most of the projections the media is making about how Bernie Sanders will do going forward are based on election results, exit polls, and voter surveys compiled before that critical March 5th date.”

Looking at the numbers, New York has Sanders polling at a paltry 29 percent. Taken together with Pennsylvania and Maryland, if the decision came down to these numbers, Sanders would be out of the race today. As Silver notes, “to reach a pledged delegate majority, Sanders will have to win most of the delegates from those big states. A major loss in any of them could be fatal to his chances. He could afford to lose one or two of them narrowly, but then he’d need to make up ground elsewhere—he’d probably have to win California by double digits, for example.”

As things currently stand, predicting the outcome of the remaining race seems less a war of numbers than of narratives. One story has Clinton only furthering her lead, particularly in states like New York, where her “trusted, reliable brand” trades well with minority voters. Given this scenario, Clinton could go on to win the nomination by 400 to 500 pledged delegates, according to Silver.

Then there’s the Sanders-as-Stallone scenario. Here, we could potentially see Sanders gaining solid momentum in a number of the medium-sized states (Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky and New Mexico), bringing the gap close enough to allow for a down-to-the-wire finish in the bigger delegate-rich states.

Taking the numbers from Sanders’ original pledged delegate targets and adding in an optimistic couple extra, Silver created a “path-of-least-implausibility” to show what such a race might look like:

http://www.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-03-30_at_1.24.15_pm.png

Silver went on to explain his logic behind these numbers. “It’s not hard to imagine Sanders meeting these super-optimistic projections in a few of the states,” he said, adding the inevitable proviso that Sanders would have to continue to win in the remaining states, or else greatly exceed expectations in New York and California.

It could happen. Just this week, the hashtag #BernieMadeMeWhite challenged the mainstream media narrative that has Clinton dominating Sanders among minority voters. In Silver’s prediction, there’s even room for existing superdelegates to shift their favor from Clinton to Sanders in upcoming weeks. In order for that to happen though, says Silver, “you might even say it would require a revolution, a profound rejection of Clinton and the status quo.”

Robin Scher is a freelance writer from South Africa currently based in New York. He tweets infrequently @RobScherHimself.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2016 10:10 pm

Washingtonians Hound Superdelegate Who Supports Clinton After Constituents Favored Sanders\

Rep. Rick Larsen is voting against his constituents' interests.
By Alexander Reed Kelly / Truthdig
March 30, 2016


Bernie Sanders crushed Hillary Clinton in Washington’s caucuses Saturday, yet state Rep. Rick Larsen, a superdelegate, is ready to vote for her anyway. Sanders backers flooded Larsen’s Facebook account, demanding that he honor the will of his constituents.

“Superdelegates,” explained The Guardian’s Trevor Timm in February, are roughly 700 members of Congress, governors, mayors and other party elites “who aren’t elected by anyone during the primary process and are free to vote any way they want at the [nominating] convention.”

Washington voters overwhelmingly favored Sanders over Clinton, 72 percent to 27 percent, in Saturday’s Democratic caucus. The Vermont senator carried every county in the state—and voters in Whatcom County, where Larsen keeps an office, chose Sanders by 81 percent.

Roughly one day after the results came in, the following graphic appeared on the Facebook walls of social media users across the state:

http://www.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-03-30_at_10.21.51_am.png

Sanders’ supporters answered the call in droves. Beneath Larsen’s posts wishing constituents Happy Easter and congratulating the University of Washington’s Huskies basketball team on making it into the Final Four, comments like these appeared by the thousands:

http://www.alternet.org/files/129245jhg05_1518813771760901_7521500238910203717_n.jpg

Some commenters struck a strident tone, threatening to vote Larsen out of office if he refuses to switch his vote.

http://www.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-03-30_at_10.23.42_am.png

One user started a Facebook group—“Rick Larsen- Represent Those you Represent”—aimed at organizing voters to place sustained pressure on Larsen.

A petition urging other Washington state Democratic superdelegates to support the candidate chosen by the electorate garnered 25,800 signatures by mid-Monday. Those officials, all of whom publicly backed Hillary Clinton, include Gov. Jay Inslee, U.S. Sens. Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray, and U.S. Reps. Jim McDermott, Suzan DelBene, Adam Smith, Denny Heck and Derek Kilmer.

Washington Democratic Party Chairman Jaxon Ravens and other officials said they’d remain neutral until after the caucuses.

Will Larsen and his cohort listen? Elected officials fear disgruntled voters. If Sanders’ supporters get Larsen to change his vote, it will stand as another in a long line of this election cycle’s repudiations of the common view that people power is a dead force in American politics. And voters elsewhere may be emboldened to take similar action.



Alexander Reed Kelly is the Assistant Editor at Truthdig.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 12:33 am
Awesome! It's happening everywhere. Superdelegates are being actively and publicly demanded to represent the wishes of their constituents.

It's a victory for the people.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 07:17 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I guess we will see the first test next week when Sanders has to win Wisconsin by 16 points to make it possible or at least not more implausible than at present. Then 2 weeks later he needs to make up the 30 point deficit in NY.

If he doesn't do those 2 things, I wonder if anyone here will admit that Bernie doesn't have much of a chance left.
revelette2
 
  3  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 07:19 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I thought superdelegates were created to be independent? If they merely do the will of the people, why have them?

Quote:
How did the superdelegate system come about?

After the 1968 election, the Democrats began using the system of primaries and caucuses to choose pledged delegates to the national convention. But in 1972 and 1976, the party ended up with lesser-known nominees who didn't perform as well on the national stage (former Sen. George McGovern, who lost the election to former President Nixon, and former President Jimmy Carter, who was only elected for one term).

Elders in the Democratic Party saw "a need for there to be a voice for the establishment within the party to not necessarily overturn the will of the voters, but to nudge along a nominee who would be well equipped to win during the general election -- to avoid nominees like George McGovern and Jimmy Carter," Putnam said.

Things came to a head during the 1980 presidential campaign, when Sen. Ted Kennedy challenged Carter for the nomination, a fight that went all the way to the floor of the convention. In 1982, a group of party leaders created the Hunt Commission to reform the nomination process.

Thus, the superdelegate system was born.


source
parados
 
  3  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 07:19 am
@Lash,
Barnie Frank points out Bernie did nothing in the Senate.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 07:26 am
@parados,
Quote:
If he doesn't do those 2 things, I wonder if anyone here will admit that Bernie doesn't have much of a chance left.

I do think he doesn't have much of a chance left, but it's not over until it's over. Pacienza!
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revelette2
 
  3  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 07:28 am
@bobsal u1553115,
And now for Nate Silver's real thoughts.

It’s Really Hard To Get Bernie Sanders 988 More Delegates
Quote:

After a trio of landslide wins in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii on Saturday — the best single day of his campaign — Bernie Sanders narrowed his delegate deficit with Hillary Clinton. But he still has a lot of work to do. Sanders trails Clinton by 228 pledged delegates and will need 988 more — a bit under 57 percent of those available — to finish with the majority.

That alone wouldn’t be enough to assure Sanders of the nomination because superdelegates could still swing things Hillary Clinton’s way in a close race, but put aside that not-so-small complication for now. The much bigger problem is that it isn’t easy to see where Sanders gets those 988 delegates.

If you’re a Sanders supporter, you might look at the map and see some states — Oregon, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Montana and so forth — that look pretty good for Sanders, a lot like the ones that gave Sanders landslide wins earlier in the campaign. But those states have relatively few delegates. Instead, about 65 percent of the remaining delegates are in California, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Maryland — all states where Sanders trails Clinton in the polls and sometimes trails her by a lot.

To reach a pledged delegate majority, Sanders will have to win most of the delegates from those big states. A major loss in any of them could be fatal to his chances. He could afford to lose one or two of them narrowly, but then he’d need to make up ground elsewhere — he’d probably have to win California by double digits, for example.

Sanders will also need to gain ground on Clinton in a series of medium-sized states such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky and New Mexico. Demographics suggest that these states could be close, but close won’t be enough for Sanders. He’ll need to win several of them easily.

None of this is all that likely. Frankly, none of it is at all likely. If the remaining states vote based on the same demographic patterns established by the previous ones, Clinton will probably gain further ground on Sanders. If they vote as state-by-state polling suggests they will, Clinton could roughly double her current advantage over Sanders and wind up winning the nomination by 400 to 500 pledged delegates.

But things can change, and polls can be wrong — and so it’s worth doing the math to see what winning 988 more delegates would look like for Sanders. Call it a path-of-least-implausibility. If you think Sanders can meet or exceed these targets, then you can say with a straight face that you think he’ll win the nomination. If you think they’re too good to be true, then you can’t. Here’s the Bernie-miracle path I came up with:


The rest at the source.
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Blickers
 
  3  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 08:15 am
I really don't have a problem at all with Bernie staying in as long as he wants.

I was for Hillary in 2008-I liked Obama but I thought he could use a little more experience-and I got seriously annoyed with all the Obama supporters on here who, as soon as Obama pulled out ahead, started posting that it was time for Hillary to shut it down because of the need for unity in the general election. Everytime Obama won a primary we would hear calls for Hillary to quit because she "can't" win, and others preaching she should quit because now this was "a time for healing". As it happened, Hillary did start coming on strong in the second half of the primary season, but it was not quite enough. The fact that she did stay in and fought all the way, though, made it much easier to accept in a few days that Obama won the nomination fair and square, and now it's time to rally around the winner.

Let Bernie fight all the way. It's his decision to quit, not mine or anyone else's.
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:05 pm
@parados,
I'm in the 'it's-not-over-til-it's-over' crew.

Always.
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:06 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

I thought superdelegates were created to be independent? If they merely do the will of the people, why have them?

Quote:

To at least make a pretense that the US is a democracy.
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Lash
 
  2  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:10 pm
@parados,

That would be a great little coup on your part if Barney Frank wasn't lying as part of the entrenched, paid-for establishment in Washington.

Bernie Sanders has gotten more done that Frank and Hillary together. in fact,...
(excerpt music for Parados)
Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:19 pm
@Lash,
Issue Areas

Sanders sponsors bills primarily in these issue areas:

Armed Forces and National Security (27%) Health (18%) Labor and Employment (11%) Energy (10%) Government Operations and Politics (9%) Education (9%) Taxation (8%) Finance and Financial Sector (7%)

Recent Bills

Some of Sanders’s most recently sponsored bills include...

S. 2399: Climate Protection and Justice Act of 2015
S. 2391: American Clean Energy Investment Act of 2015
S. 2398: Clean Energy Worker Just Transition Act
S. 2242: Save Oak Flat Act
S. 2237: Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2015
S. 2142: Workplace Democracy Act
S. 2054: Justice is Not For Sale Act of 2015
parados
 
  3  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:31 pm
@Lash,
Ever hear of the Dodd-Frank bill? You know, the one that Elizabeth Warren keeps defending?

http://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-on-dodd-frank-5-years-later-2015-7

I wonder which major bill was named for Bernie Sanders because he helped author it?
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:33 pm
@Lash,
You have to lie about Bernie to criticize most of what he has done.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Some of Sanders’s most recently sponsored bills include...

S. 2399: Climate Protection and Justice Act of 2015
S. 2391: American Clean Energy Investment Act of 2015
S. 2398: Clean Energy Worker Just Transition Act
S. 2242: Save Oak Flat Act
S. 2237: Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2015
S. 2142: Workplace Democracy Act
S. 2054: Justice is Not For Sale Act of 2015
.

You forgot to include a link to your cut/paste...here you go.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

Oh, you left off some important details too, I filled in the blanks from the same website.
S. 2399: Climate Protection and Justice Act of 2015 - 1% chance of getting enacted
S. 2391: American Clean Energy Investment Act of 2015 - 1% chance of getting enacted
S. 2398: Clean Energy Worker Just Transition Act - 1% chance of getting enacted
S. 2242: Save Oak Flat Act - 23% chance of getting enacted
S. 2237: Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2015 - 1% chance of getting enacted
S. 2142: Workplace Democracy Act - 1% chance of getting enacted
S. 2054: Justice is Not For Sale Act of 2015 - 1% chance of getting enacted



In summary, he's been about as effective AT GETTING THINGS DONE as those House Republicans voting to repeal Obamacare the last 62 times (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/groundhog-day-republicans-vote-repeal-obamacare)
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 03:54 pm
@maporsche,
That's very important information. Thanks for including them.
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 04:08 pm
@parados,
LOL!!! Oh, I understand. You weren't interested in HOW MANY bills someone had passed that help the rank and file American, you want to know who had a fat enough EGO to make sure a bill is NAMED after them.

Yes. Bernie loses on that score. Wink
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2016 04:53 pm
Bernie's new political propaganda?

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