Lash
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2017 09:00 am
Bernie, once again, leading the fight for the people.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/08/01/sanders-takes-pharma-greed-rule-aimed-ending-price-gouging

Taking on Big Pharma for you!
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2017 11:16 am
@Lash,
Good for him, I hope he keeps fighting, I support him in his fight.

BTW, I like this site, might not have during the primaries, but time marches on.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2017 09:14 pm
He's patiently turning the tide for single payer.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/08/02/money-pours-sanderss-new-medicare-all-digital-campaign
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:12 pm
@Lash,
Does he even know what the term means? So many on the Left use "single payer" to refer to all sorts of systems that are anything but single payer.

I'd hate to die because some liberal replaced my health insurance with delusional gibberish and called it "single payer".
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2017 07:03 am
Chomsky: "Bernie is our best hope."

https://youtu.be/JaW2wGTEaVo

American elections are shams.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2017 04:44 am
Bernie has read at least part of that spew Clinton wrote. His classic response, "Does anybody believe that?"

Started the morning with a nice laugh. Thanks, Bern.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 04:23 am
Hillary Hate. It's what's for breakfast.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/hillary-hates-again/

Some of what it says:


When “mainstream” (corporate) media talks about the terrible role that hate is playing in American political life the discussion is usually about partisan contempt between Democrats and Republicans or heated conflicts between “radical extremes” like the alt-right and the so-called alt-left (Antifa). You don’t hear much about the longstanding and dripping contempt the Democratic Party’s neoliberal corporate and professional class “elite” has for progressive and social-democratic forces within that party – this even though most of those “progressive Democrats” generally line up dutifully behind the party’s ruling class masters at the end of the day.

This hate, too, deserves attention.

Smearing “Doofus Bernie”

Take the case of Bernie Sanders, currently the most popular politician in the United States. Bernie, it should be recalled, sheep-dogged for Mrs. Clinton (whose approval rating stands below even that of Donald Trump today) during the last quadrennial election cycle. He promised support for the party’s locked-in top-down nominee (Hillary) from day one. He gave that support to Hillary against the wishes of many of his backers in the summer and fall of 2016. He did this even after the spiteful Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee collaborated with other highly placed Democrats and their corporate media allies to rig the primary race against him.

He was treated in very shabby fashion the by those forces during the primaries. Bill Clinton in New Hampshire called Sanders and his team “hermetically sealed” purists, hypocrites, and thieves and mocked Sanders as “the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big.”

Hillary sent her daughter Chelsea out to absurdly charge that Sanders’ single-payer health care plan would “strip millions and millions and millions of people of their health insurance.”
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 06:33 am
@Lash,
Quote:
You don’t hear much about the longstanding and dripping contempt the Democratic Party’s neoliberal corporate and professional class “elite” has for progressive and social-democratic forces within that party...

But you do hear plenty of self-styled "progressives" trying to ramp up hatred against the hapless moderates and realists who either don't subscribe to the leftist vision or feel that those goals can be achieved successfully without explicitly running under a banner of "socialism" or a "political revolution".

People really need to see the campaign process for what it is — dog-eat-dog in the primaries and then everyone shakes hands and goes into the "party unity" mode. Same thing happened in the Republican primaries. The only reason you don't hear that much about it is that they won — if HRC or Bernie had won the GOP would be conducting a similar post mortem analysis and screaming about the horrible things Donald said about Little Marco and Low Energy Jeb.

Let the Hillary thing run its course. She's not a threat to anyone. She's not going anywhere. She's bitter, she's angry, she's confused — it's perfectly natural that she would want to vent. I don't mind if someone takes issue with the way she's processed her defeat. But the hyperbolic tone of Paul Street's article (typical of Counterpunch, by the way) just adds fuel to a fire we really don't need.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 06:45 am
@Lash,
Paul Street wrote:
In April of 2016, for example, Hillary told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough that a dreadful hit-job interview and smear campaign conducted by the New York Daily News against Sanders “raise[d] a lot of questions” about Sanders’ qualification for the presidency.

When I looked at the link, yes, his responses did raise a lot of questions.
UPI wrote:
In an interview with the New York Daily News, Sanders faltered multiple times when pressed for specifics on how he would implement specific policies he has advocated as part of his "political revolution."

For christ's sake, there's nothing wrong with primary contestants pointing out the weak spots of their opposition. Sanders did the same to Clinton. No one's figured out a better way to win an election than by bashing your opponent.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 07:04 am
@hightor,
You'll have to understand. The American left (definitely my predecessors) have waited for a smart, viable candidate worthy of their allegiance and support forever. They had one. He was drawing excited legions of old and young supporters.

He.was.cheated by the DNC. Hillary Clinton and her crony, DWS, will forever be the perpetrators / poster girls of that crime and their co-conspirators (establishment Democrats) are equally guilty as far as Bernie progressives are concerned. The progressives/Counterpunch & Truthdig audience will never forget it. It will never go away.

This article speaks with that voice to a pretty large audience. The writer isn't making the anger worse. The anger is doing just fine on its own.

We deserve to have our voices heard in the national conversation.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 07:05 am
@hightor,
She used his Judaism against him.

If he denigrated her due to vagina-carrying, his attack would have been on par.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 10:00 am
When I needed a break from all the rancor on a2k, I voted down the political threads. I did not realize this one stayed active so long after I started it.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 11:02 am
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 11:39 am
@Lash,
Quote:
She used his Judaism against him.

Really? I never heard that he was a practicing Jew.

And if you think Hillary was aiming low, her charges were nothing compared to what the GOP, the alt-right, and the Trumpenproletariat would have thrown at him.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 12:04 pm
@hightor,
You *expect* Jew-baiting-type strategies from Republicans, not from Democrats.

You also don't expect it to resonate with Democrat voters...

You don't seem too scandalized that she tried to piggyback a Jew-baiter. Goddammit, that's depressing.

He's an ethnic Jew.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2017 12:49 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
He's an ethnic Jew.

You didn't say that. You said his "Judaism" was used against him.

This is from the right wing Federalist:
Quote:
In a recent e-mail sent to several Democratic party staff, a top Democratic National Committee (DNC) official suggested that the party should raise questions about Sanders’ “Jewish heritage” in key primary states.

“It might ma[ke] no difference, but for [Kentucky] and [West Virginia] can we get someone to ask his belief[?]” DNC chief financial officer Brad Marshall wrote in an e-mail to several other party officials on May 5, 2016. “Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist.”

I don't see that Clinton had any role in this. And the issue was about his possible atheism, not Judaism.
Quote:
You don't seem too scandalized that she tried to piggyback a Jew-baiter.

She didn't. You are hopeless.


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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2017 07:23 pm
Not hopeless at all, but not finding the article I based my remarks on.

Meanwhile, Bernie's religion - unusual as it is - is based in Judaism. And even if he refuses to speak about it, refuses to define it by that word, that word and every connotation that attaches to it attaches to him.

I love this article.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/04/14/politics/bernie-sanders-religion/index.html

(CNN) Nobody would mistake Bernie Sanders' stump speech for a sermon. When making moral arguments about income inequality or climate change, he's more likely to quote statistics than Scripture.

Though raised Jewish, Sanders says that he is "not particularly religious," nor is he a member of any congregation or synagogue. "I am not actively involved in organized religion," he has told reporters.

But at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire in February, Sanders seemed to contradict himself.


"It's a guiding principle in my life, absolutely," said the Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate.

"You know, everyone practices religion in a different way. To me, I would not be here tonight, I would not be running for president of the United States if I did not have very strong religious and spiritual feelings."

So what gives? Is Bernie Sanders religious or not?

Many Americans answer that question with a shrug, according to a January poll conducted by the Pew Research Center. Nearly a third say Sanders is "somewhat" religious; nearly a third say he's not, and more than a quarter say they don't know.

It may seem impolite to question Sanders' religious views. Who cares whether he spends his Saturdays at a shul or a socialist rally? Millions, meanwhile, have rallied behind his presidential campaign, cheering his jeremiads against consumerism and political corruption.

But if Sanders wants to win the Democratic nomination, he has to expand his base, which means luring churchgoing Christians away from Hillary Clinton. According to exit polls, Clinton has dominated Sanders among Americans who attend worship services weekly, leading to a "God gap" among the Democratic candidates.

Sanders seems to know this. He has toured black churches and addressed evangelicals at Liberty University in Virginia. This Friday, just days before the New York primary, Sanders addressed a Vatican conference on the morality of market economies.

But speeches alone won't attract religious voters to Sanders, said Marvin A. McMickle, director of the Black Church Studies program at Colgate Rochester Crozer Divinity School in New York.

"We hear the words, but words can be memorized. I want to know more about the sources of those words. I want to know the rock he is standing on."

That rock is hard to find. Sanders rarely talks about religion and grows impatient with reporters who try to pry open his soul or delve into his Jewish background. He doesn't belong to a prayer group in Congress or a congregation in Burlington. By conventional standards, Sanders may be the least religious candidate to run for president in quite some time.

But Sanders' political platform is unmistakably moral, scholars say, and it draws more deeply on faith teachings than even he may know. In other words, if Bernie Sanders is standing on a rock, it may point to the Promised Land of socialist Scandinavia, but it sits on ancient soil.

Torah 101


Eli Sanders, Bernie's father, fled poverty and prejudice in Poland, immigrating to the United States in 1921. Crowded into a cramped Brooklyn apartment, his young family held Passover seders but rarely attended services at the local synagogue.

The Sanderses were proud of their Jewish heritage, the senator and his brother have said, but belief in God wasn't an abiding concern.

Back in Poland, Eli Sanders' family paid a high price for their Judaism. Many were killed in the Holocaust, sending a searing message to the next generation.

"A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932," Sanders said last year, responding to a question about how Judaism informs his political views. "He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result of that election in World War II, including 6 million Jews. So what I learned as a little kid is that politics is, in fact, very important."

(There is some dispute about Sanders' framing of Hitler's rise here. Hitler lost his election in 1932, but his Nazi Party won seats in the Reichstag, setting the stage for Hitler's dictatorship.)

Sanders and his brother, Larry, attended Hebrew school at an Orthodox synagogue. They studied the Torah, reading about the patriarchs and prophets. It was more Torah 101 than Advanced Talmudic Studies, but the lessons stuck, Larry has said.

For the Sanderses, politics takes precedence over piety. In his autobiography, "Outsider in the House," Sanders recalls tagging along with Larry to meetings of Young Democrats at Brooklyn College. (Like Bernie, Larry Sanders made a career in politics; he is now the health issues spokesman for the Green Party in England.)

At the University of Chicago, where Bernie Sanders went to college, he spent hours imbibing socialism's sacred canon: the writings of Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky and Eugene V. Debs, a socialist who ran for president five times.

In his autobiography, Sanders completely skips the next chapter in his life. There is no mention of the months he spent on a kibbutz in northern Israel. (Actually, Israel isn't mentioned at all, a noteworthy omission for a Jewish-American politician.)

Friends say the agrarian Israeli collective solidified Sanders' faith in socialism, but it apparently did not deepen his relationship with organized Judaism.

As Sanders moved to Vermont and began his political career, local rabbis learned not to invite him to services. He never accepted, though friends say he would attend Jewish friends' funerals at synagogues. He wasn't hostile to religion, colleagues say. More like indifferent.

"He is quite substantially not religious," Larry Sanders would later say.

(Still, Bernie Sanders knows enough about Judaism to play a convincing cameo as "Rabbi Manny Schewitz" in a 1999 romantic comedy.)

When Sanders came to Washington in 1990 as a congressman, he kept his distance from the city's politically active Jewish community.

Rabbi Jonah Dov Pesner, director of the Washington-based Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, said he tried to engage Sanders in a conversation about Judaism on a bus ride to Selma, Alabama, for the 50th anniversary of Bloody Sunday. Sanders politely rebuffed the rabbi's inquiries.

"He just didn't want go there. He obviously is not a practicing Jew, and doesn't want to talk about it, and I respect that."

Instead, Sanders was known in the Capitol as a stern-faced figure stuck in the political wilderness. In speech after speech, he harangued high officials, castigated his congressional colleagues, and even alienated allies by fulminating against the influence of money in politics.

"He is out there wailing on his own," a fellow New England Democrat told The New York Times in 2007.

But Sanders wasn't quite that isolated.

The media flocked to the democratic socialist -- a rare bird in American politics -- especially after he was elected to the Senate in 2007. Sanders tried to shoo reporters away, saying personality profiles don't interest him. He was especially reluctant to speak to Jewish publications about his religious background.

But after Sanders began his presidential campaign, he could no longer ignore those questions.

'I am who I am'

Sanders first hinted at his unorthodox theology in, of all places, a talk show interview. After questioning whether the socialist senator swims too far from the political mainstream to be elected president, ABC's Jimmy Kimmel asked Sanders if he believed in God.

"Well, you know, I am who I am," Sanders said, evoking God's evasive answer to Moses through the burning bush. "And what I believe in, what my spirituality is about, is that we're all in this together -- that I think it's not a good thing to believe, as human beings, that we can turn our backs on the suffering of other people."

"And this is not Judaism," Sanders continued. "This is what Pope Francis is talking about: That we cannot worship just billionaires and the making of more and more money. Life is more than that."

It was a short answer. Just 30 seconds of spirituality before Sanders retreated to his stump speech, bemoaning childhood poverty and a lack of family leave programs.

Susan Jacoby, a well-known secular historian, said Sanders avoided Kimmel's question.

"He weaseled out. It was the exact opposite of his usual blunt talk. It was the answer of someone who is a secular humanist but doesn't call himself that."

Secular humanism, briefly, bills itself as a "naturalist philosophy." It rejects the idea of deities and supernatural forces while embracing an ethics of cooperation and respect for personal freedom. "No god will save us," declares a humanist manifesto written in 1973. "We must save ourselves."

Jacoby, who has written about secularism in American history, says that Sanders may be the least religious presidential candidate since Abraham Lincoln. Though he was an ardent reader of the Bible, Lincoln refused to join a congregation. (Other historians argue that Lincoln may have been our most theologically astute president, despite his distaste for organized religion.)
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2017 07:39 pm
Leaving this here. From Haaretz

https://www.google.com/amp/www.haaretz.com/amp/world-news/.premium-1.699744
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2017 07:52 pm
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2015/12/23/bernie-sanders-quiet-revolt/

Compiling good articles.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2017 02:37 pm
Yeee-haaa!!

I love this❤️🌹🌸💕🍻🎸🙋🏻


https://www.sandersinstitute.com
 

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