edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2015 07:57 pm
Hillary Clinton isn’t the only democrat in the presidential race, and tonight Bernie Sanders is making his presence known in Houston to a packed house. Tonight on KHOU 11 News at 10 – what Houstonians think of his plans to win the nomination.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2015 08:23 pm
@ossobuco,
He was being interrupted by some rather silly protesters who are apparently unclear on the concept of protesting.

He was clearly annoyed, but he didn't do or say anything wrong. I think this is a non-event. Martin O'Malley faced the same protesters and had a little more problem with his response... he ended up having to apologize for his word choice.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2015 10:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Hillary Clinton isn’t the only democrat in the presidential race, and tonight Bernie Sanders is making his presence known in Houston to a packed house. Tonight on KHOU 11 News at 10 – what Houstonians think of his plans to win the nomination.

I watched the local news tonight, to see if they even mentioned this. They noted that he had to have a bigger meeting place than originally thought, but they did not touch on what was said.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2015 10:30 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

Hillary Clinton isn’t the only democrat in the presidential race, and tonight Bernie Sanders is making his presence known in Houston to a packed house. Tonight on KHOU 11 News at 10 – what Houstonians think of his plans to win the nomination.

I watched the local news tonight, to see if they even mentioned this. They noted that he had to have a bigger meeting place than originally thought, but they did not touch on what was said.

I read at one point it was about a thousand, but a local channel reported on line it was over five thousand.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 04:35 pm
Robert Reich
7 mins · Edited ·
What amazes me, frankly, are the crowds. Not since Robert F. Kennedy sought the Democratic nomination in 1968 has a candidate for the nomination of either party generated such large numbers of people eager to see and listen to him. None in living memory has summoned such crowds this early, before the nominating season even begins. Even Sanders' advisers are amazed (I spoke with one this morning who said they never expected this kind of response).
What's the explanation? It's not his sense of humor. It's not his youth. He isn't a demagogue, bashing immigrants or pandering to hatred and bigotry. It's that he's telling Americans the unvarnished truth about what has happened to our economy and our democracy, and he is posing real solutions. And it seems that America is ready to listen.
What do you think?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 05:37 pm
I think a snowball has a better chance in Hell than Sanders in a presidential election in 2016.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 05:42 pm
@edgarblythe,
I don't think anything yet. I like him myself but I've wariness, too much blanket talk, much as I agree with some of it. Whispers of demogogery, as things are complicated and slopping them together is not useful.

signed, grouch
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 06:22 pm
The debates are going to be a real treat.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 06:45 pm
I know how I'd answer Sanders if I were Hillary.

A variation on "I love what you are saying...and I wish the country were ready for it. But it isn't...and we have to win this election or the country will be in even more trouble than it is already.

"So...as Obama did with Obamacare...better to settle for a small loaf...and look to expand it when it sits better...than to end up with no loaf at all."

The country is not ready for Sanders...or the far left agenda.

The country is not ready for the likes of Sanders...or the far left agenda.

Pushing the far left agenda is a losing proposition.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 06:46 pm
I will wait for the actual debaters to speak for themselves. Some of what they will say is going to be based on events that haven't even happened yet.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jul, 2015 08:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Keep voting for the early leaders instead of the ones you think are best qualified in all respects. You will keep getting unqualified office holders if you convince enough people.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 03:40 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Keep voting for the early leaders instead of the ones you think are best qualified in all respects. You will keep getting unqualified office holders if you convince enough people.


I will vote for people who share more of my ideas than the people running against them...and for people I think will win.

Continue to back people who are what you consider closer to agreeing with your ideas...but who almost certainly will lose.

But all you will end up being...is a loser.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 05:47 am
@edgarblythe,
Reich would be a great Veep. 😁
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 07:40 am
Voting for Clinton because she is ahead in the polls is no way to choose a candidate. I am waiting until they confront one another, face to face. Sanders is the only candidate willing to address many of my concerns and Clinton is too much in the camp of big business.
revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 08:33 am
I actually don't think it is the socialist tag which is keeping Sanders from breaking ahead of Hillary. I think the left is ready for a more left candidate and one who is proud of it. If Sanders could just break through to the minorities in a big way, he could very well beat Hillary. I don't know why, but he just hasn't done it yet.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:10 am
@revelette2,
Respectfully, Revelette...the question should not be whether or not the left is ready for a "more left leaning" candidate...

...but whether the country in general is.

I suggest it is not...not even close.

I'm not in love with Hillary...and if someone comes along to knock her out of contention, so be it. But if it is someone like Sanders or Warren...

...you can kiss the progressive agenda good-bye.

Either of those two will be defeated in a landslide...even by someone as unlikable and unqualified as Donald Trump.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:20 am
I don't know about progressives, but liberals want an actual choice. The Democrats right now are on shaky ground, gradually letting the Republican agenda gain ever more steam. This may be fine with some of you, but it's not with me.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:20 am
@edgarblythe,
http://college.usatoday.com/2015/07/09/viewpoint-bernie-sanders-perfect-fit-for-millennials/

Quote:
With five announced Democrats and 14 announced Republicans gunning for the White House, the 2016 presidential race is looking thicker by the minute. But just as the public’s attention turns to the campaign, candidate attention will be turning to you. As the largest voting demographic, candidates will be working very hard to tailor an appealing message to Millennials.

According to the Panetta Institute of Public Policy and the Pew Research Center, it appears Millennials will be looking at four major policy areas come 2016: independence from the Washington establishment, support for climate change mitigation policies, job creation and student debt reform. The candidate siding on the right side of all of these issues will very likely win the Millennial vote. That candidate appears to be Bernie Sanders.

ISSUE ONE: INDEPENDENCE FROM THE WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT

It is no secret that Americans are frustrated with today’s politicians. As a result, Millennials have become far less attached to the U.S.’s two-party system. A 2015 survey conducted by the Pew Research Center showed just that, finding 51% of Millennial voters identify as independents.

Many politicians have taken advantage of that shift in focus. Clinton, Christie and Webb have all decried the partisan gridlock and claimed that they would put an end to it . Sen. Rand Paul even wrote a book on the subject.

While these claims are all well and good, none of the candidates share Sanders’ independent track record. Although running as a Democrat, Sanders has been the longest serving independent member of Congress in American history. According to the Congressional Quarterly, Sanders has consistently managed to “bridge Washington’s toxic partisan divide” and his independence has shaped his leadership thus far.


more at the link
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:24 am
Bernie's way of addressing minorities is so far mostly in the realm of help them achieve financial success. He has always been on the side of civil rights, but likely will have to alter his message to get the minority vote.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 09:27 am
@ehBeth,
http://www.businessinsider.com/does-bernie-sanders-worry-hillary-clinton-2015-7

Quote:
Though he's tried to outflank Clinton to the left on a number of issues like income inequality and taxes, Sanders has been less decidedly liberal on topics like immigration reform and gun control.

In 2007, he voted against an immigration-reform package in the Senate, teaming up with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) to add restrictive amendments to the bill. Many Latino lawmakers don't believe that Sanders has immigration reform at the top of his agenda in the same way that Clinton does.

"It is not his priority," Arturo Vargas, the executive director of the National Association of Latino Elected Office, told CNN last month. "I think that is one of the challenges his campaign is going to have to confront."

Sanders also hasn't made many inroads with African-American voters. Jensen, the director of Public Policy Polling, told Business Insider that most recent polls put the former Secretary of State's support among African-American voters at around 70-80%.

"If Sanders wins Iowa or New Hampshire it will build a lot of momentum for him that will help in the states that follow, but he's still going to struggle in places like South Carolina with large black populations and Nevada with large Hispanic populations unless he improves his appeal to nonwhite voters," Jensen said.

Hagner said that if the Clinton campaign becomes legitimately nervous, they may start putting issues in the spotlight that historically resonate with black and Hispanic voters.

"Immigration and gun rights are going to be problems for him. If you start to see stories pop up that have some finger prints, we'll know they're taking it seriously," Hagner said.


more at the link

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millenial vote -yes
hispanic vote - no


my money is still on the hispanic/latino vote being the one that makes the difference
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