aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 01:45 pm
No.

Do you believe Americans are a somewhat barbaric people as a whole?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 01:53 pm
Yes


Would I be mistaken in stating they probably commited the biggest act of genocide ever known by man with regard to the Indian farming community?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:06 pm
I don't know- you'd have to do a comparative study. In terms of raw numbers, I don't think you'd find that it would rate as the largest, but maybe in terms of percentage of the population of that specific race of people ravaged, it would be up there.

But at that point in American history Mathos, the Americans inhabiting the North American continent and stealing the land and murdering the native American indigenous people were primarily direct descendents of the Brits who were the first colonizers.


Do you enjoy fingerpainting? (I was going to say fingerpointing- but then I thought I should lighten it up a little). Laughing
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:14 pm
Actually I just like to remind you that between the lot of us, we have been extremely barbaric!


I'm not really a tried or proven painter Aidan, I was considered to be good at art at school, but they objected to me wanting to paint nude girls and have live models in the art-room. In fact Mr Kinder said the best gift I could ever give to that school would be to leave!

I hung on in there until I was 16, but the last year especially was ridiculous. Now when I see cave paintings, and blow ons, they really fascinate me, I kind of go back to being there, I can feel the life inside the cave, visualise the conditions, smell the stenches, hear the wind, the crackle from the fire, the smoke, it is marvellous. How I wish.

Would you like to experience what it must have been like for about a year?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:18 pm
Specifically in a cave? Maybe if it had a high ceiling. I do really like to camp and live outside, build fires, chop wood, haul water- all that kind of stuff.

If you could choose another nationality or race to have been born, which would you have chosen?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:21 pm
In no particular order, but desires are there;-

Red Indian ( about 500 years back)

Eskimo ( About 250 years back)

Mongolian (About 150 years back)

Oriental (About 500 years back)

Are you afraid of dangerous wild-life, is so which?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:31 pm
Oh Lord Mathos- all of it. I'm an animal wimp. I don't know why, it's almost like a phobia, but I'm just really scared of animals, except friendly looking dogs- even cats and birds freak me out.

I wouldn't have minded living the native American Indian life before the white man came and wrecked it. I wouldn't have wanted to live up in what is now Canada though- I'd have liked to have been Cherokee in the hills of western North Carolina or some place like that.


So you wouldn't have minded living on the ice floes or out on the frozen steppes? Do you enjoy really, really cold weather?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:36 pm
Can't say I do now, but if you were born to those conditions it would be natural and acceptable, (you wouldn't know any different) and consequently normal.

I would enjoy the hunt, the living without foolish possessions which we clutter up our lives with now.

Can't you imagine crawling into an igloo with a loved one, stripping naked and lying between thick furs (polar bear) and enjoying the sensations of touching, holding and lovemaking with the power and stamina associated with the animal like properties you would possess?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:40 pm
I have to admit that does sound nice, except that after about a month or so when all the furs were dirty and smelly and I'd have to be the one washing them in the frigid water I got from melting snow and ice, etc., I think it'd get kind of old.

I do like a nice cozy fire lit atmosphere, but you have to remember, up there in Alaska, they have six months of darkness and then six months when the sun doesn't set.


Do long hours of darkness in the winter affect your moods.
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:45 pm
The SAD syndrome, yes of course it's natural, we should be in a bloody cave under thick furs until the spring.. We mess with evolution a great deal Aidan.


Would you say the western world developed and evolved faster because of climatic conditions or the brutality of the species in general?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:51 pm
I'd say the climactic conditions were kinder to humans in terms of providing nutrition, providing more available natural resources and inducing less stress in the species, thus allowing the people from those parts of the world to physically flourish which in turn has had an effect on increased rates of intellectual stimulation and development.

But I guess brutality does come into it somewhat when you take into account colonization and the theft of various lands and the natural resources that belong to that land and those people that they then do not reap the benefits from.

What's your theory in terms of the differences that are apparant between the developed and third world nations?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 02:57 pm
Hey I could go on with this Aidan!

In a nutshell:-

Warmth and protection of a home versus living in a tree or under leaves.

Warlike and bellicose people as opposed to a more gentle way of life, until we turned up.

Need to preserve food...versus pulling it off the tree and out of the water on demand.

FIRE... very important.

Our needs accelerated evolution for us.

Would you like us all to be thrown back into the stone-age overnight or do you prefer to look forward to further advancement of mankind, the bonus's of space travel and colonising other planets?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 03:07 pm
Myself, I'd go back instead of forward- but that's just me.

Are you going to make me pay for not being cooperative with you?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 03:12 pm
No Aidan, I am not, I'm used to you taking daft Benny's after the last three years or so! Remember?

Your just getting screwed up because your leaving England soon, I can read you like a bloody book. So jack it in it's not my fault your going is it?

Hey you'll be ok and you'll come back one day, if you want to. But then again, you might meet a Yankie Spendi and get married in some silly place over there!

Will you miss Spendi more than anything else in England?
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aidan
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2007 03:29 pm
Laughing Laughing Laughing


Well, given that I've never met him and he hasn't spoken a word to me in almost a year, uhmmm, now that would be pretty damn sad if I was sitting over here pining for someone I've never met who hasn't even had the impetus to type a word or two to me once in a while wouldn't it?
I'm much more practical and realistic than that Mathos.
But if you want to know the reality of the situation:

What I will miss most about England are the Draycott Sleights up on the Mendip Hills, and the warm, friendly polite people and the day to day interactions I consistently have with them.

Who I will miss the most is my friend Justin. Because I actually know him. I enjoy talking with him, hearing him laugh and seeing him smile. I actually go places with him, and we walk around and point the sights we find interesting out to each other, we listen to music together. I've gotten to know him as a person and not just as a presence on the computer- and once I leave England, I won't be able to do all those things with him.

Because I can talk to people who are on the internet just the same whether they're in England or the US. There'll be absolutely no difference at all in any of my relationships that are all internet based.

Do you think you'd be able to be best friends with a person you'd never really met?
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jennym
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 12:57 am
I do. I think that the people who become your best friends have a quality that you (or, if you prefer, your psyche or soul or whatever) recognizes right away. When I think about my best friends (past and present) I can distinctly recall knowing, sort of intuitively, that we had a strong instantaneous connection. And I don't believe that this necessarily has to do with the physical person. So, I think that you can know that someone is to be your best friend even not having met them in person.

Are you optimistic or frightened (or both) about the possibility of life on other planets?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 02:16 am
Jenny.

I think common sense rules here.

There will, in my opinion be millions of planets with life sources on them! Why the hell should we be so special? I think to meet a more advanced form of civilisation would be a tremendous experience, I see no point in fear, a fact we possess so called fear here is due to our own bellicose existence. It's quite daft really.

In the real meaning of existence we are very barbaric, aren't we?

Aidan

Jenny actually answer your question akin to how I would have responded, and consequently have little to add, save it be that I think you probably get to know a person more deeply on these forum type pages, as there is little if anything hidden at all amongst most contributors in the particular spheres we clique in!

Do you understand and agree with that?
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jennym
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 10:57 am
I guess that depends on what you mean by the "real meaning" of existence...But, I suppose we are pretty barbaric by our nature...

And, I absolutely agree that it is highly probably that life does indeed exist elsewhere. And I understand that fear is pointless...However, I cannot help a bit of apprehension mixed in with my excitement.

Whoops! Forgot to add a question...
Do you believe that altruism is a possibility?
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Mathos
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 11:04 am
Well apprehension is normal I suppose Jenny. 'real meaning of existence!'


I often look at the planet, history, archaeology!

Maybe the faster process of evolution can only be achieved by war and is therefore an essential part of our progress!


Do you think we could progress as well, scientifically with a totally peaceful existence?
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jennym
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 11:14 am
No...it's against our nature. Humankind is too competitive...too frightened.

I remember that part of one of my favorite movies is this guy who speaks about evolution of the planet and its inhabitants, and how each step seems to be coming faster and faster. That is, the time span between subsequent events becomes smaller as we progress, so that evolution seems to be telescoping, until eventually we will be in a constant state of evolving.

What'd you think of that?
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