Questions Game

I wasn't thinking of crap; am about to book a hotel in Paris for end September.

Know any good ones for €30 approx?

Francis's latest pearl of wisdom-

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That's a nice friendly greeting to wake up to on a lovely Friday morning I must say.Very ladylike.

JAAF posted a fair number of definitions of work which she had copied from a book and invited us to pick one.I picked one and blew it out of the water.I could have done the same with all the rest which weren't derived from pure physics.The discussion was about work in the conventional sense.

I was unable to be the next crap poster because I am not supposed to answer my own questions and usual contributors to this thread have been driven away seemingly for reasons it is impossible to explain.

What's it like living life based on subjective assertions such as the one quoted which is also incomprehensible to an English speaker?

Very ladylike is maybe an insult for you but not for me. I can assume that part of femininity each man has in himself.

As I stated before, native English speakers have the advantage of understating the subtleties of certain sentences worded in ways that foreigners are unable to comprehend.

Now, some foreigners can understand the reasons for which usual contributors are driven away, maybe because that's not a matter of wording?

"Very ladylike" was not meant as an insult.It was a comment based on the mannerisms displayed in the post it referred to.This effect is likely to be the result of studying English under lady tutors.

There is no "part of femininity" in this poster.Not a shred.

So,if you understand why some contributors are driven away could you explain why CJ hardly ever posts since that gratuitous intervention last week and also why the intervention took place at all.And could you explain why the 37 hour hiatus has taken place,which incidentally continues despite these posts,when the intervention had the result it was prsumably intended to.Maybe,while you are at it,you might also explain how CJ and myself were accused of hogging the thread when that is impossible to do particularly when both CJ and myself were absent the bulk of the time.

It's pointless to tell who were my tutors or even if they were male or female. So it's gratuitous guess of your part.

I note that you deny most of psychological studies on the question of "femininity of men".

Only for information purposes :

6) The next segment deals with boys' relationships to their mothers and to their feminine sides.
Some background information: Many men lack positive role models. As the narrator states: "No one ever tells him what to be, only what not to be. Boys become boys, in large part, by not being girls." In most western cultures if a boy acts feminine, he is picked on and ostracized. The price paid is the denial of boys' feminine sides. Men are warned to put away womanly things, including sentiment, and to learn how to accumulate and manipulate power if they are to become men. Masculinity becomes an aspect of identity that is developed in boyhood against the structure of femininity rather than toward something of its own. Underlying much of the aggression and acting out of boyhood is a hidden protest against the forced departure from the feminine, marked as rebellion against and disparagement of the feminine.

Can you identify masculine behaviors?

Can you identify feminine behaviors?

Can any of the men remember being told that a particular behavior/activity was only for girls?

Can any of the women remember being told that a particular behavior/activity was only for boys?

7) Many boys are forced to deny their feelings. The narrator states "He wants to cry but he is told not to. If he cries he is called a baby. He is 7 years old and he is told to be a man."


Can anyone relate to this?

Are tears a sign of weakness?

Where do the tears go and how do men/boys relate to crying in others throughout life? i.e. envy, hatred, disgust, humiliation.

I conclude that you are acting as a result of typical education in western culture.

For the reasons other posters were driven away:

- Tico: But I'll say that I've resisted jumping into what I perceived to be a quiet conversation between Spendius and CJ. Not so much because I didn't think I could, but I was respecting what I believed to be your desire to have a 1-on-1 ...

- Clary: My point generally is that if questions are directed at specific individuals, which many of yours/CJ's are, it by definition excludes other people...

- Pragmatic: the rubbish thing...

- Myself: the contemptuous way you adressed other posters...

The last 37 hours:




- I'm dry and ready. Can you become serious now?

This doesn't constitute a riot.It's a powder-puff chucking exhibition.A flounce.

Am I supposed to be answering the questions in the bold type gobbledegook?In general they are questions it wouldn't cross my mind to even think about.

For reference I am a rural,taught by Jesuits in an all male school and finished off in the military and civil service.I favour team games.Thus I have probably had a "typical education in western culture".The anthropologists say that for 2 million years there was a matriarchy and not one jot of progress took place until men took over and since they did every knick-knack and convenience you have is down to them.

The feminist thing is a media play scheme due to the fact that women are the biggest consumers of media.Getting serious about that requires somebody to get serious with who has studied this matter.Superficiality is useless.

I thought Tico's comment perfectly reasonable and I doubt he will approve of you using it to support your lost cause.

The others are predictable and meaningless.

Have you ever studied Thornstein Veblen?

No .. but I was able to figure out to whom you were referring despite the misspelling.

Is there any reason I should?

Oh yes T.Very educational.A must read.

Did I spell his name incorrectly?

Yes, you did. Thorstein Veblen.

And you act like him: "He mumbled, he rambled, he digressed."

It's a powder-puff chucking exhibition - yes!

I've lost this cause, so?

So I think you owe Cal one.She was a regular and popular threader and now she isn't.There may be another reason but I don't think so.

My little error-

Slip of the finger.Nothing to get over-excited about.

"In human apparel the element of dress is readily distinguishable from that of clothing.The two functions-of dress and of clothing the person-are to a great extent subserved by the same material goods,although the extent to which the same material serves both purposes will appear very much slighter on second thought than it does at first glance.A differentiation of materials has long been going on,by virtue of which many things that are worn for the one purpose no longer serve,the other.The differentiation is by no means complete.Much of human apparel is worn both for physical comfort and for dress;still more of it is worn ostensibly for both purposes.But the differentiation is already very considerable and is visibly progressing."(The Economic Theory of Woman's Dress.1894).But I wouldn't read the essay if I was you.110 years later there are men primped up like women all over the place though I do think the trend has peaked at last so maybe the sperm count will begin to recover.

I'm happy to be compared to a master of English despite it being his second language.

Anybody foolish enough to take any notice of the jibes you produce is as daft as the writer of them.Can it not be explained to you that those jibes are meaningless to an educated person.The Theory of the Leisure Class is one of the most influential books to ever come out of America and it saved me thousands of pounds and much time and effort which would otherwise have been wasted.You will never convince an educated person that Veblen "mumbled,rambled or digressed".But best of luck with the others.

I'll quote another sentence-

"The origin of dress is sought in the principle of adornment." (see above for what "dress" is.)

And adornment is a lady thing surely.Superfluous buttons on suits for men are no different from an economic point of view to silk stockings and high heel shoes.I make no comment on the psychology.

Do you work in the fashion industry?

I do not work in the fashion industry, by far.

With your astonishing demonstration about educated people leading you to so miserable arguments, I'll leave you counting your sperm and savouring your victory in "the lost cause". Clichés are not dead and are like religions. One can not change that.

Can a question change a life?

Sure it can.

What's the most cynical thing you've ever done?

Don't know. Not sure I've ever really thought about it. I've been cynical but I'm more sarcastic by nature, I suppose.

What's the most cynical thing YOU'VE ever done?

Deliberately setting out to learn the art of cynicism from people who were better at it than I was.With so many role models to go at from girls in pubs down to archbishops I discovered a source of amusement which is limitless but which also prevents me from practicing the art myself.From a wide experience I discovered that THE most cynical people are those who think they are not cynical.They amuse me the most.Especially when they become indignant at my cynicism.

Do you not know that all the famous English comedians and comediennes are experts in exposing cynicism?

PS.Your Gerard Groote would have approved of that.

I suppose you are right. It's what makes them so funny!

Who is/are your favorite English (or other)comedians & why?

Oh, and what do you know of Gerard Groote?

I don't like picking one out really.The ones I like were all so good.But they all had that in common.The punctured pomposity.They were funny guys in real life.

Benny Hill did something else as well but I'll not go into that.

The only thing I know about Groote is your quote which I fully agree with.I'm a complete toss-pot but at least you know where you stand with that.I don't like anybody having any illusions about my character.It's an acquired taste and it takes a while to get to it which most people never do-the silly po-faced clunkers.

Why are Americans so serious?

Do you think we are? I wonder exactly why that's so. Did you know Americans see Brits as generally austere and aloof?

You should see us when the cameras are not running.

Tommy Cooper died on live television.Just like that.
His last joke killed him.

Do you think Prince Charles is austere and aloof rather than acting the goat?

It would be interesting to be a fly on one of your walls, no doubt!
I'm sorry, who's Tommy Cooper? British, I assume?

Some people are harder to read than others. Charles appears to carry himself 'austere and aloof', but sure seems a dolt when you talk about his personal life!

What do you think of Americans, in general?