When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

No, but it does make the person responsible for spreading the rumors by forwarding the emails. In any case there was link however tenuous.

Tenuous is way too generous a word for this so-called "link". Reggie Love was not only Obama's "body man" (his term), he was an ever-present right-hand confidante, pick-up basketball game partner and close personal friend. that he would be paranoid about what Hillary and her people were up too isn't any reason in itself to give credence to those suspicions and rumors. It's how a protective friend would think.

I gotta say, it is scary how mindless the attacks on Hillary Clinton are, and have always been. Way back when she was running for Senate, a friend of mine commented, "I can't STAND that woman!". When I asked her what her problem with Hillary was, she said something like "She thinks she's better than everyone and she's arrogant". O-kay.... that may be true, but it definitely ain't a disqualifying thing. When you pin down people today to tell you what they don't like about Hillary, it has a personal flavor to it - nothing substantive, although they invariably try to tie their personal distaste to some shaky "facts" - like "she didn't follow the regulations about email!". Yeah, ri-i-ight......

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@snood,

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I gotta say, it is scary how mindless the attacks on Hillary Clinton are, and have always been.

I got to say the same about the people that support her. How many laws does she have to break, and how many lies does she have to be caught in?

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Careful there, ya'll are in danger of making her sound like someone above being questioned. After all, the emails were forwarded by someone on her staff. She could have simply answered Obama in a calm manner and explained the matter was taken care of, if it was by then. I guess Obama got uppity for daring to question her.

We're not in danger of anything of the sort. It's you who are beyond the pale in trying to justify a desire for the leading democratic candidate to STEP DOWN, with shaky innuendo and trumped-up (no pun) accusations sans foundation. That's the irrational thing going on here, not the efforts of people to cut through the endless bullshit slinging.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

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I gotta say, it is scary how mindless the attacks on Hillary Clinton are, and have always been.

I got to say the same about the people that support her. How many laws does she have to break, and how many lies does she have to be caught in?

How many laws? Name one. ONE. That she has broken.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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@snood,

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How many laws? Name one. ONE. That she has broken.

Name one she has not been accused of breaking? Something is going to stick soon. She is corrupt as they come.
Why people want another self serving hack in the WH is beyond me.

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There you have it, folks. a description of the Republican M.O. - a statement of the quality of their vision and their campaign strategy in a nutshell: "Something will stick soon".

Classic.

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@snood,

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Classic.

What is classic is the parade of useful idiots on this forum.

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@georgeob1,

Otherwise cast illegal ballots? Begging the question much there?

Since you wish to make that accusation part of your argument perhaps you could provide evidence of all these people casting illegal ballots.

The fact of the matter is that it will prevent far more legal ballots from being cast then it will ever prevent illegal ballots being case. The courts have said as much based on the evidence presented to them. Your illogical argument doesn't do much other than prove snood's comments to be correct.

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@coldjoint,

Just because you use pink all the time, Pinkie, doesn't make you a parade in spite of your claims you are one.

Keep on not thinking, Pinkie. It's what you are good at.

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Hillary's National Marketing Director Illegally Accepting Foreign Contribution

There is a law broken. Killary is responsible for her staff.

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/06/james-okeefe-brings-his-dishonest-doctored-vide/201026

beware of Project Veritas Action

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James O'Keefe has recently launched a political advocacy group, Project Veritas Action Fund, but journalists should be aware that O'Keefe has a long history of lies and deceptively edited videos filmed under false pretenses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-okeefe-video-clinton_55e5c0a8e4b0aec9f35481a8

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WASHINGTON -- At the end of a press conference Tuesday in which conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe unveiled a new sting video about Hillary Clinton, one reporter had just one question:

"Are you sure it's not a joke?" she asked.

Project Veritas Action, O'Keefe's infamous nonprofit sting outfit, had promised reporters a "new undercover video exposing illegal activity conducted by high-level employees within Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign." But many in the audience assembled at the National Press Club were bemused to find that the transaction at issue was a gift of campaign swag, or at worst, what O'Keefe's attorney called "akin to jaywalking" in a world where more legitimate claims of campaign finance violations go unpunished by a nonfunctional Federal Election Commission. In the footage, Clinton's campaign takes a $75 donation from an American on behalf of a Canadian.

The Democratic hopeful's campaign has been vigilantly watching for Project Veritas' attempts to catch staff members and volunteers engaging in illegal activity, telling Time that it had already rejected multiple entrapment schemes. O'Keefe was sentenced to three years of probation in 2010 after he pled guilty to breaking into former Sen. Mary Landrieu's (D-La.) office.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/09/15/7-strangest-canada-moments-of-the-us-presidential-election.html

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“New James O’Keefe video sting catches Clinton campaign being kind to a Canadian,” the Washington Post wrote in summary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe

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@snood,

I think you are going way beyond the line and way over reacting. If it makes you feel good to do it, then go for it but I don't think it is called for. I am simply going to hope Sanders beats her in the race and vote for him. I doubt that will happen though, if anything she seems to be making up for lost ground in recent days. If Biden announces he will not run, she will be back in double digits.

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@ehBeth,

Anyone who tries to expose the corruption in the political system is going to be a target. Just the fact that the liberal press is on the defensive proves enough.

And Media Matters is bought and paid for by Soros. A billionaire who wants global socialism and sees the US as his only roadblock. Gullible useful idiots.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

I think you are going way beyond the line and way over reacting. If it makes you feel good to do it, then go for it but I don't think it is called for. I am simply going to hope Sanders beats her in the race and vote for him. I doubt that will happen though, if anything she seems to be making up for lost ground in recent days. If Biden announces he will not run, she will be back in double digits.

What are you talking about?!? You are saying you want the dem frontrunner to step down for reasons you can't even define, and because I call that as bullshit I'M going too far? Whatever.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

I think you are going way beyond the line and way over reacting. If it makes you feel good to do it, then go for it but I don't think it is called for. I am simply going to hope Sanders beats her in the race and vote for him. I doubt that will happen though, if anything she seems to be making up for lost ground in recent days. If Biden announces he will not run, she will be back in double digits.

I like this post a LOT more than the one than the one you wrote earlier, Revelette.

I hope you can rethink that earlier post when election time comes.

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@snood,

I don't like her much, have you never not liked someone without a clear cut definable reason? However, having read the article I left a link to earlier a second time, it appears she didn't have anything to do with a staff member forwarding an email having to do with Obama being a Muslim and she fired her when she did find out. I admitted as much to ehbeth earlier today. The reason I wanted her to step down is because this email stuff and surrounding issues has just been one big headache. It would be much easier if she just wasn't running and someone like Biden was.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

I don't like her much, have you never not liked someone without a clear cut definable reason? However, having read the article I left a link to earlier a second time, it appears she didn't have anything to do with a staff member forwarding an email having to do with Obama being a Muslim and she fired her when she did find out. I admitted as much to ehbeth earlier today. The reason I wanted her to step down is because this email stuff and surrounding issues has just been one big headache. It would be much easier if she just wasn't running and someone like Biden was.

Gotta be honest with you, Revelette...the "email stuff" and "Benghazi" and all the other petty nonsense...

...are going to help her more than hurt her.

I'm for encouraging these miscreants to pursue, pursue, pursue. Let 'em set up more investigatory bodies.

The American public has a keener sense of right and wrong than they realize...and I think, except for the die-hard "I hate her" crowd...most already realize these clowns are just....well...clowns.

I think she is going to be nominated...and I think she is going to whip the GOP candidate.

But I could be wrong.

We'll find out!

I acknowledge I am disturbed you will have trouble voting for her if she is nominated. You usually think more clearly than that.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

I don't like her much,

I'm totally with you on that. I don't think I'd like her if I met her but there's no good reason for me thinking that way. I've been aware of terrific things she did for children and women going back to the 1980's, when some of our professors worked with her. I've tried reading positive books and articles. Read her biography. Still don't like her.

However ... she currently looks like the candidate who's most likely to get the Democratic nomination and the polls still show her being able to take the Republican offerings ... so I think it's important to seriously look at the stuff being thrown at her. All in all, she's a tough, smart woman with a history of working hard for her country. I can respect her accomplishments without liking her.

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@ehBeth,

I'll agree with that, ehBeth, I, who started a thread quite a while ago about not liking her, though still saying I will vote for her if she is our candidate post the primary. I didn't list my whys very much in that thread but did list some of them about half way through that. Haven't revised my take since.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

The reason I wanted her to step down is because this email stuff and surrounding issues has just been one big headache. It would be much easier if she just wasn't running and someone like Biden was.

I was interviewing for a position in my group several years ago. One of the candidates looked pretty good, but there were some rumors floating around about some sexual harassment stuff. Two women in my group brought it to my attention so I asked the hiring manager to look into it. He checked with HR and the story was that a disgruntled employee made several accusations when she was fired and he was one of the targets. They investigated it and found no basis to the accusations. My team then said "well, let's toss him out just in case". My answer was that we don't make hiring decisions based on innuendo and rumors. The guy turned out to be a great employee. No one ever had a problem with him at all.

I see the assault on Clinton to be a lot of the same. I could see going after her for her positions or for her qualifications but the only thing they are doing is throwing rumors and conspiracies to see if they can make it "much easier if she just wasn't running".

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