When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

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Voters are almost evenly divided on that question: the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Clinton should suspend her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination until all of the legal questions about her use of the private e-mail server are resolved. Nearly as many (44%) disagree. Nine percent (9%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Even one-in-four Democrats (24%) agree that the front-runner for their party’s nomination should suspend her campaign for the time being. But that compares to 73% of Republicans and 46% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/should_hillary_clinton_suspend_her_campaign

Hillary best start taking this seriously, because the country is.

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@engineer,

Its the conservative brand of politics that Lash has brought to this site and Bobsil has bought into.

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@georgeob1,

I'm becoming increasingly worried that Trump voters are equally as pissed off and resolute as Bernie people, just about completely different things. I Keep expecting Trump support to wane after each **** up, but his supporters get bolder in their defense and adulation. The Trumper he is, the more vociferous the rabble. Those people are consumed with hatred, and they found a hateful blowhard with enough money to say whatever he pleases. They write their own rules, so there are no consequences...

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@Lash,

If you will think of Trump as the leader of a mob in need of excitement to keep them going, it will help.

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Hillary Clinton: Private Email Server 'Clearly Wasn't The Best Choice'
Source: HuffPost

Hillary Clinton said Wednesday her decision to use a private email server while serving as secretary of state was not "the best choice."

The Democratic presidential candidate has faced scrutiny since a New York Times report revealed she had used a private email account throughout her time at the State Department. As the FBI investigates the server, which Clinton handed over earlier this month, the former secretary of state has maintained she never sent nor received classified messages with the account.

Clinton addressed the controversy while speaking to reporters in Iowa Wednesday.

"I know people have raised questions about my email use as secretary of state, and I understand why. I get it. " Clinton said. "So here’s what I want the American people to know. My use of personal email was allowed by the State Department. It clearly wasn’t the best choice. I should've used two emails: one personal, one for work, and I take responsibility for that decision. And I want to be as transparent as possible which is why I turned 55,000 pages, why I've turned over my server."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-private-email-server-clearly-wasnt-the-best-choice_55de4adae4b0e7117ba8cf56?kvcommref=mostpopular

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@RABEL222,

Ummmm ..... just to put it all into perspective:

I think the e-mails is a bunch of nothing. Change the law, Hillary may have made a bad choice (she says she made a bad choice), but it was legal and common practice.

I think Hillary Clinton was the of the best Sec of States, ever.

I think Hillary Clinton handled Benghazi very, very, well.

I think Hillary Clinton has the abilities needed to be an effective President.

I also disagree with her policies on death penalty, three strike laws, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, fracking, mandatory minimum sentencing, NSA intercepts, Keystone, the Afghan war ...... positions you by and largely agree with me on and disagree with Hillary Clinton.

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@georgeob1,

What a **** she is. Couldn't even confirm she's support a gay rights law. Bernie did. **** Clinton.

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New poll showing Clinton beating everyone is reported as bad news for Hillary

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A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Hillary Clinton coasting to a crushing victory in a three-way race against Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, winning 45 percent of the vote, compared with 22 for Sanders and 18 for Biden.

And the good news for Clinton doesn't stop there.

The poll shows Clinton beating Jeb Bush head to head.

The poll shows Clinton beating Marco Rubio head to head.

The poll shows Clinton beating Donald Trump head to head.

The poll shows Clinton winning in a landslide in scenarios where Trump runs as an independent.

The poll did not test Clinton against Scott Walker or other possible nominees.

So how did the media report this poll showing that if the election were held this week Hillary Clinton would win? Well, as bad news for Hillary Clinton!

Bloomberg: "Biden More Competitive Than Clinton Against Leading Republicans: Poll"

Politico: "Poll: Biden outperforms Hillary in general election; Trump leads GOP field"

Time: "Voters open to Joe Biden presidential bid in new poll"

Two things are happening here. One is that "Clinton is still winning" is a boring headline, so there's a tendency to grasp at straws to come up with something else. The other is that the press as a whole doesn't like Clinton very much (and the feeling is mutual), so there's a bias toward believing that the public feels the same way. So somehow her campaign is struggling even when it's winning, and polls that show her winning are reported as showing her losing.

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@HesDeltanCaptain,

HesDeltanCaptain wrote:

What a **** she is. Couldn't even confirm she's support a gay rights law. Bernie did. **** Clinton.

Could you source or cite something about what you say here? I'm not aware of her being asked about a gay rights law and her not being able to confirm it.

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@snood,

Pretty sure like Obama, her feelings on gay marriage evolved, just not as quick I don't think. Both of them used to be for civil unions like a lot of other democrats.

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Equality triumphed, and America triumphed"

Hillary Clinton praised the Supreme Court decision to guarantee same-sex marriages on Friday night and forcefully condemned the Republicans’ response to the ruling, warning the GOP presidential field not to turn LGBT issues into a “political football for this 2016 campaign.”

“It was an emotional roller coaster of a day, Clinton said. “This morning, love triumphed in the highest court in our land. Equality triumphed, and America triumphed.”

“Instead of trying to turn back the clock,” Clinton continued, Republicans “should be joining us in saying no to discrimination once and for all.”

Clinton’s comments on Friday evening were her first public remarks in the wake of Friday’s Supreme Court ruling that the Constitution guarantees the right for same-sex couples to marry. Her campaign issued a statement Friday in support of the decision and touted it on social media.

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@georgeob1,

As opposed to politicians that use PACs to pay their permanent staff of hanger ons.

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@Lash,

I'll agree there appear to be similarities in the attraction of many people on ther left and right respectively, for otherwise unlikely candidates like Sanders and Trump. I suspect the source is an underlying dissatisfaction with politics as they are on each side of the political aisle.

I don't buy your expressed notion that the dissatisfied folks on the right are necessarily a 'rabble of haters' while the avid supporters of the tired old socialist from Vermont are all apparently nice, tidy people. Indeed I suspect both groups contain similar mixtures of humanity.

There's plenty of reason for voters to be seriously dissatisfied with the present situation, whether their focus is on the weak economic recovery we are seeing with a continuing loss, or at least stagnation, in previously well-paying job opportunities, or the repeated violations of our constitution by the sitting president; the corrupt misuse of the Justice department at his hands; and the increasingly authoritarian character of our government. Things aren't going well across the board and there is widespread dissatisfaction among the people. We all have different perspectives on things and naturally focus on those elements that concern us the most. That's neither a surprise or a novelty. It isn't really necessary to malign or demean those who have a different perspective.

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@revelette2,

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So somehow her campaign is struggling even when it's winning,

Here campaign is struggling because her popularity has been going in reverse for months, which is the opposite of what a successful campaign does. Also she is getting into the news for scandal not for her vision for the nations, which is also a failure of the campaign.

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@hawkeye10,

Her popularity might be going in reverse but she is still ahead of everybody in the race after months of relentless bad press. It is a Presidential race, not a popularity contest.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Her popularity might be going in reverse but she is still ahead of everybody in the race after months of relentless bad press. It is a Presidential race, not a popularity contest.

Actually, it is exactly a popularity contest. Hillary's stock is going down, and whats more with the incompetence that she has displayed this run (which she did last run too only she claimed to have learned to do better....NOT!) there is no reason to expect her to stop falling.

I am reading today that the donors have largely shut her off, they are no longer onboard the D's running her unopposed. That is how we know that someone will come in to challenge her. With as poor a candidate as she is they will likely beat her.

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@hawkeye10,

Hillary's stock is going down but it is still double the stock of just about every other candidate in the race.

This is like arguing that someone is drowning because the water has gone from their ankles to their knees.

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@hawkeye10,

Listen, I hope Biden runs, but as it stands right now, I don't think he will win. I think unless something drastically changes, Hillary will coast through until she becomes President and Bill will be First Man? I thought about last night, not only will he be the first, First Man, but the first former President as well. Weird.

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Jeb Bush remains the favorite on the odds to be the Republican presidential nominee at the online sportsbooks after the first debate of the process, but Donald Trump has improved on those betting lines over the past month.

At Bovada Bush is the +150 favorite on the odds to be the Republican presidential nominee for 2016, with Trump now up to second at +300; Trump had been back at +750 on those political props at the sportsbook heading into the first debate. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio are both then at +600, with Ben Carson at +900 and John Kasich at +1000.

Hillary Clinton then remains the clear favorite on the odds to be the Democratic presidential nominee for 2016 at Bovada at -700, with Bernie Sanders at +600 and Joe Biden at +800. Biden has not announced whether he will be running for president in 2016.

Clinton is also the +110 favorite on the latest odds to be the next president of the United States, followed by Bush at +375 and Trump at +700; Trump has not ruled out running as a third-party candidate in the 2016 election. Rubio, Walker, and Sanders are all at +1400, with Biden at +1800, Kasich at +2500, and Carson and Ted Cruz at +3300.

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@parados,

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This is like arguing that someone is drowning because the water has gone from their ankles to their knees.

The water is at her knees because she has not been able to figure out how to shut off the water, the water will keep coming unless she does, and at this point there is no reason for confidence that she will be able to figure it out. The woman has a long spectacular record of incompetence at politics.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

I think unless something drastically changes, Hillary will coast through until she becomes President and Bill will be First Man?

Your betting site isn't taking into account the effects of the 2013 gun control debacle.

The Republican candidate will win in the general election no matter what.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

The water is at her knees because she has not been able to figure out how to shut off the water, the water will keep coming unless she does, and at this point there is no reason for confidence that she will be able to figure it out. The woman has a long spectacular record of incompetence at politics.

No way for any Democratic candidate to "shut off the water" in the 2016 election cycle.

The 2013 gun control debacle has sealed their fate. They might as well pack it in until 2024.

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