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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:22 pm
@Blickers,
I have never seen / heard racialism used other than in the US. Doesn't mean it isn't used elsewhere , just commenting on where I've seen it used.
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giujohn
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:22 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
And those who are race pimps are never embarrassed by their tactics... they have no shame.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:25 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
for the other 72: https://twitter.com/yashar/status/767437174056873984
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maporsche
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:27 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Even if you eliminated all but public finding it still wouldn't be a Level Playing Field and the Republicans know this... When you have such a slanted biased mainstream media who's ultimate goal is to elect liberal left-leaning Progressive socialists there's no way that any Republican with half a brain would except only Public Funding.


Ok, so I guess we'll add you to the 'I'm ok with the current system and understand that huge donors will always have more access to politicians than the common folk and this is not unique to Hillary Clinton' crowd.

No concerns with you feeling that way at all. I disagree with your reasoning, but that's fine.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:34 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
See what I mean. You are very prone to pointing out "racism" where you see it, even in places where there is no racism.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 01:50 pm
@Blickers,
Wow! Nearly even...that good!

It's a recent thing. It could change tomorrow. Even nimh won't argue otherwise. If she were my candidate, I would see at as something of a positive thing, but beyond that, not much.
Blickers
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 02:34 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote Finn:
Quote:
Wow! Nearly even...that good!

Well,when Hillary's favorable/unfavorable rating is 48 to 50, and Trump's favorable/unfavorable rating is 34 to 63, then yes, I would say that is good news for Hillary and her supporters.

My point is that Labor Day or shortly thereafter is the traditional beginnings of the serious part of the race when most of the public gets engaged. Since the coverage of the presidential cycle now is a two year thing, those issues that seem to drive the polls pre-Labor Day are often not the issues which drive the vote on Election Day. Hillary moving up when Trump is not is therefore something of major importance.

By the way, in three of the six latest polls listed by Real clear Politics, Hillary has hit the 50% mark, which is a milestone because that's usually a sign that the candidate's popular support is firming up.
revelette2
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 02:36 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Great lines, all true.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 02:38 pm
@Blickers,
Your point erodes your pleasure in the change in her unfavorables.
Blickers
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 02:45 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't think the race is over at all. What the numbers say to me,though, is that Trump has gotten popular with issues that don't have the legs to carry through to Election Day, that are going down in importance compared to the issues that Hillary is strong on. As I edited in an earlier post, 3 out of the latest 6 polls listed in Real clear Politics show that Hillary has hit the 50 percent mark, which is a milestone in politics.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:06 pm
@Blickers,
You may be right, but I have a hard time accepting that a 50% mark is a milestone.
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revelette2
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:08 pm
Carville: 'Somebody is going to hell' over Clinton Foundation attacks
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"Somebody is going to hell" over the political attacks on the Clinton Foundation, longtime Clinton confidant James Carville declared Tuesday, denouncing the recent scrutiny and criticism of the charitable organization.

If the Clinton Foundation had decided not to accept foreign donations while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, as it has recently announced it would do if she is elected president, Carville said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that the "good" thing would be that the organization would not be part of the political discussion.
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"The bad would be you'd be out hundreds of millions of dollars that are doing good. What the Clinton Foundation does, it takes money from rich people and gives it to poor people. Most people think that's a pretty good idea," Carville said.

Bill Clinton also announced to supporters on Monday that he would step down from his position on the foundation board if his wife wins in November and would cease fundraising activities for the organization.

Pressed on whether the Clinton Foundation should have clamped down on foreign donations before Clinton became secretary of state, Carville responded, "If you ask me as a political adviser, of course."

"If you ask me as a human being, eh, I’m not too sure. As a human being I think the foundation does an enormous amount of good. From a strictly political standpoint, yeah," Carville said, invoking his Catholic sixth-grade teacher to say, "somebody is going to hell over this. Because somebody, now I’m not saying here—or somewhere is. This is saving people’s lives."

Co-host Joe Scarborough did not take kindly to the sentiment.

“I wish I could say the word I want to say. I’ll just say that’s BS," Scarborough remarked. "You know the fact is if it's a great charity and it’s a five-star rated charity, guess what, other people can raise the money. It doesn't have to be Bill Clinton calling somebody up making people think, if I give him money it could help me out. If it's a great charity, it can stand on its own and other people can raise money for it. It's not a zero-sum game. It's not having Bill Clinton raise money while his wife is running for president or else we're all going to hell and little kids are going to die across the planet.”

“They’re gonna," Carville shot back. "The other thing is, Bill Clinton has more charm and people around the world have an enormous amount of faith in him. I've traveled with him. I've seen it myself. There are not many people that have the relationships and are held in the affection around the world as Bill Clinton."



Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:11 pm
@revelette2,
Because James Carville is the personification of honesty and integrity?

What he is is the personification of those who have pledged loyalty to the Clintons.
giujohn
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:17 pm
@maporsche,
It's kind of like mutually assured destruction in the Cold War era nobody really wanted it but they can't say it didn't work.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Gotta agree with Finn on this one.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/james-carville/
His statements are mostly false.

HOWEVER, I believe that the Clinton Foundation is a highly respected one.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/frequently-asked-questions
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:35 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Good Lord...mark this moment. My comment has received three thumbs up. No doubt it will return to the negatives once the assh*les exercise their feeble will.
Blickers
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That website is pretty rough. Carville was supporting a Democratic congresswoman and said that she was "the first official" to suggest BP pay for advertising for Florida to get it's tourism back after the oil spill. They rated him mostly false. Turned out she was the first statewide official top propose this. A woman from the Florida state House of Representatives proposed it a few days earlier. Of course, state government House of Representatives are almost unknown outside their district, and not too well known inside their district.

That's a rough rating.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Good on you CI.

Let's see how many agree with you (us).

I'm sure the Foundation has sent money to worthy causes. Only an utter idiot in charge would not have. A question is how much money went to charities and how much went to administrative expenses. i.e Hillary and Bill flying first class around the world and stipends for loyalists like Carville. Another, more important, question is whether or not the donations bought favors from the Secretary of State.



RABEL222
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:42 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I am sick to death of you and all the insane conservatives like you that believe any lie the republicans feed you. Hillary more crooked than Trump. Insane. Hell the crooked SOB wont release his income taxes. What is he trying to cover up? A Putin friendship.
revelette2
 
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Tue 23 Aug, 2016 03:43 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I've always thought he was funny and still seems to be going strong and in this case, he is correct. The foundation is unfairly criticized.
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