@Lash,
Going on past exposures, they'll ignore this one as well.
In theatrical terminology, the show must go on.
For all Bernie Sanders supporters and for everyone else... Larry David in "Bern Your Enthusiasm"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJXAGVf91UM
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7463108
Dirty Money Clinton selling off America.
Clinton leads Trump by 6 points after Democratic confab: Reuters/Ipsos poll
NEW YORK | By Grant Smith
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton held a 6- percentage-point lead over Republican rival Donald Trump, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll with new wording that was released on Friday, the day after she formally accepted her party's nomination for the Nov. 8 election.
Nearly 41 percent of likely voters favor Clinton, 35 percent favor Trump, and 25 percent picked "Other," according to the new July 25-29 online poll of 1,043 likely voters, which overlapped with the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
The poll has a credibility interval of 4 percentage points.
The presidential tracking poll reflects a slight change of wording from previous surveys, replacing the “Neither/Other” option given to respondents with just “Other.” An internal review had found the word “Neither” has, at times, siphoned support away from one or the other candidate. [nL4N1AB4I6]
Former Secretary of State Clinton delivered an upbeat keynote address at the Democratic convention on Thursday night, as she became the first woman to accept the presidential nomination from a major party. [nL1N1AD041]
In the biggest speech of her more than 25-year-old career in the public eye, Clinton, 68, cast herself as a steady leader at a "moment of reckoning" for the country, and contrasted her character with what she described as Trump's dangerous and volatile temperament.
Trump, a 70-year-old New York businessman and former reality TV show host who has never held political office, responded in a Twitter post late on Thursday that "Hillary's vision is a borderless world where working people have no power, no jobs, no safety."
Both candidates were on the campaign trail on Friday, kicking off what is expected to be a hotly contested general election battle.
A separate Reuters/Ipsos survey that provided respondents with the option to choose from Clinton, Trump, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein, has Clinton and Trump tied at 37 percentage points.
Of the alternative party candidates, Johnson came in third with 5 percentage points, followed by Stein at 1 percentage point, according to the July 25-29 survey of 1,426 likely voters, which has a credibility interval of 3 percentage points.[/color]
@Blickers,
So if 25% picked "other", and five percent picked Johnson, and one percent Stein, that leaves 19%. Are they "undecided"?
Or are there other candidates?
@Lash,
Did you leave an 'r' out of cooked?
It's at the point of totally laughable right about now.
@Builder,
Nope, Caddell used the term 'cooked.'
We used to marvel and feel so superior to Russians, wondering why they'd tolerate a state-sponsored media. Things are devolving pretty rapidly.
@Lash,
Quote:Things are devolving pretty rapidly.
I did read somewhere that everything the US feared about communism has come to fruition under capitalism, albeit disaster capitalism (Milton Friedmanesque).
Late edit; here 'tis. “Everything we feared about communism - that we would lose our houses and savings and be forced to labour eternally for meager wages with no voice in the system - has come true under capitalism.”
- Jeff Sparrow
@Lash,
Quote Lash:
Quote:They had to dicker with the polls to hide a 17 point Trump lead.
You are incapable of telling the truth. Your quoted article said that Trump had a 17 point SWING, from 15 points behind to 2 points ahead, during Trump's convention period under the old method. Not a 17 point lead. Here's the link your quoted article directed us to:
Quote:On July 14, 2016, Trump was 15 points behind Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton 46.5 percent to 31.5 percent. However as of July 26, 2016, Trump closed that 15 point gap and is now up two points over Clinton, 40.2 percent to 38.5 percent.
Coming from way behind to move 2 points ahead during your convention period is NOT having a 17 point lead as you posted. And this latest Reuters poll covers up to the day AFTER the Democratic Convention, which the old Reuters poll didn't. Your claims of being a paid professional teacher are getting impossible to believe.
Latest poll results from Public Policy Polling, (PPP):
Clinton Image Improves Following Conventions; Leads Trump by 5
Clinton leads the race with 46% to 41% for Trump, with Gary Johnson at 6% and Jill Stein at 2%. In a head to head just between Clinton and Trump, Clinton hits 50% and leads Trump 50-45. A month ago Clinton led 45-41 in the full field contest and 48-44 in the head to head so there hasn't been much change. But not much change is good news for Clinton.
We've been writing for months that this race is shaping up pretty similarly both nationally and at the state level to the margins Barack Obama won by in 2012- not a huge landslide by any means, but a solid victory. The conventions have passed without any change to that big picture,
and that leaves Clinton as the favorite going into the final three months.
“It looks like the Republican and Democratic convention bounces have cancelled each other out and basically left the race where it was a month ago,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “And that’s perfectly good news for Hillary Clinton.”
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_7302016.pdf
@snood,
I keep telling myself that there is this slight possibility that somebody somehow slipped through college by signing up for classes with the easiest grading instructors and then immersed herself in right wing rhetoric for decades after college, leaving her incapable of judging truth from falsity. But even that generous assessment of Lash is beginning to falter. Going from 15 points down to 2 points ahead is not having a 17 point lead, and a fifth grader would know that.
When you factor in the other two candidates It's a statistical Dead Heat
Polling Data
Poll Date Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
RCP Average 7/18 - 7/30 40.2 40.2 7.0 2.8 Tie
PPP (D) 7/29 - 7/30 46 41 6 2 Clinton +5
Reuters 7/25 - 7/29 37 37 5 1 Tie
CNN/ORC 7/22 - 7/24 39 44 9 3 Trump +5
Economist 7/23 - 7/24 40 38 5 3 Clinton +2
NBC News 7/18 - 7/24 39 41 10 5 Trump +2
All General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Polling Data
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html#polls
@giujohn,
Sorry, giujohn, several of the polls in your sample ended BEFORE the Democratic Convention even began, so they reflect only the Trump post conventon bounce but NOT the Hillary convention bounce. That skews the results toward Trump.
The polls which ended AFTER the Democratic Convention would more accurately show both convention bounces, and they are coming up with Hillary ahead. Actually, to get a really accurate picture, we'll have to see the polls which had their polling period begin after July 28, to get a fuller picture, but that will take a week or so. No question, though, the race is moving toward Hillary.
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:I keep telling myself that there is this slight possibility that somebody somehow slipped through college by signing up for classes with the easiest grading instructors and then immersed herself in right wing rhetoric for decades after college, leaving her incapable of judging truth from falsity. But even that generous assessment of Lash is beginning to falter. Going from 15 points down to 2 points ahead is not having a 17 point lead, and a fifth grader would know that.
Clearly one of you is mistaken about it. The detail of your explanation suggests that the mistake might be on Lash's part, but I don't feel like verifying that. I need to get back to Azeroth and am not in the mood for digging through polling data.
I suggest that, whoever made the mistake, it was just an honest mistake that could happen to anyone regardless of smarts or education level.
