When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Damn tootin'

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Rubio Defends Christmas Eve Gun Purchase: It Might Help Fight ISIS

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Even more damn tootinish

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Trump: Chief Justice Roberts Is An 'Absolute Disaster'

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Over at the Federalist Society, they just love this New York dude.

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@georgeob1,

Japan may have been in economic stagnation for decades, but they're still the third largest economy in the world. That's saying something. Look at their size and population; it makes their economic power look much bigger.

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A sleeper issue, however, has also finally come to the fore: the corruption that infects our political system. It had long been said that the public doesn’t care about this matter, but upset over the gradual loss of control of our political system to those who can buy it is now palpable. For very different reasons, both Trump and Bernie Sanders are seen as incorruptible.

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@blatham,

But Trump is corrupt before he even starts. He's a bigot, xenophobe, and rich.

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@McGentrix,

That raises the question of how you think an attack because of a video would make their chances of being elected higher. Please explain.

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@blatham,

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There are "binary framers" on both sides of the political aisle, and you appear (to me) to be one of them.

Yes, I know.

Good. It's a common thing and we all (me too) do it on occasion. There's plenty to fault in the positions of both major political parties here and even more to work with among their major candidates. If I spent my time worrying about perfection or the systematic faults in both parties, the individual candidates or their programs, I'd go nuts. I get very weary of the "My plan calls for ...." rhetoric, knowing that none of them alone can ensure delivery, and that even if (as in the case of Obamacare) they do, we will get an overdesigned convoluted mess. Life is more complex than any of the promises of politicians of any stripe, and none of them has proven capable of designing a "system" that will solve the problems they describe. Even if, in the unlikely event, they come close, the mere passage of time will undo it. Freedom is better than the anthill. Self-reliance and human charity are better than most government programs.

All that said we all will continue analyzing history and human affairs and creating fasnciful theories about them. Why not? It's both interesting and entertaining. The only real danger comes when you find yourself really believing all that **** - whatever that **** happens to be ...

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@cicerone imposter,

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But Trump is corrupt before he even starts. He's a bigot, xenophobe, and rich.

A perfect fit for the times?

The guy ain't Abe Lincoln. At the end of her piece, Drew says...

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The anger, fear, resentment, racism, and frustration that are playing into the current political climate make for a turbulent situation. This is a situation prone to undermining our democratic system. It’s not an overstatement to say that in this political climate this election encourages a certain fascist strain. We’re not there yet and our democratic impulses are strong. The disturbing thing is that that fascist tendency can even be glimpsed.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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A sleeper issue, however, has also finally come to the fore: the corruption that infects our political system. It had long been said that the public doesn’t care about this matter, but upset over the gradual loss of control of our political system to those who can buy it is now palpable. For very different reasons, both Trump and Bernie Sanders are seen as incorruptible.
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That's interesting ! I think that corruptability is nearly universal. Some however are already more advanced in that area than others.

It's also intewresting how selective we can be about the sources of the money that threatens to "control" our systems. Democrats worry about the Koch brothers while republicans worry about unions that contol about 1,5% of state & Federal payrolls.

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@parados,

It all goes back to mostly to the Arab Spring and the accusations from the right of Obama leading from behind. They claim the administration has this rosy view of Al Qaeda with Obama claiming he had the problem licked. They think when the Benghazi compound got attacked it destroyed that rosy view of Obama and to keep that from making him look bad and thus loose the election, for political reasons, the administration just wanted to blame it on the video and the protest getting out of hand rather than a planned attack to be carried out on the anniversary of 9/11 by AQ. That is basically their narrative (if I made sense of it right)which has been coming from those right wing characters from the beginning which is why they focused so on whether Obama used the words "terrorist." Ever since they have just been adding things and trying their best to prove their conspiracies in the way they have perfected since the 90's. Most of it has been debunked, but it doesn't stop them from repeating it over and over again in the hopes that repeating it often enough will make it true or least seem so.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Japan may have been in economic stagnation for decades, but they're still the third largest economy in the world. That's saying something. Look at their size and population; it makes their economic power look much bigger.

I agree. However they are culturally very monolitic and unwilling to accept immigrants, In addition they have both a growing demographic problem and serious economic and political competitors in their neighborhood. That combination may not leave them any long term solutions.

In any event do you really think they offer a good model for our country?

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@georgeob1,

I'll go even further; they are a very discriminatory country. They're a good model for most countries when it comes to education, science, and quality products.

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@georgeob1,

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Japan and Europe have been in the grip of economic stagnation for decades - I wouldn't bet a lot on their futures.

They haven't been stagnating for decades. More like they haven't shaken off the 2008 recession.

Here's the inflation-adjusted GDP per capita for Japan-a slowing of growth, yes, but no real trouble until 2008 hits:

http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/japan-gdp-per-capita.png?s=jpnnygdppcapkd&v=201601121629m&d1=19160101&d2=20161231

The Euro Area-the EU members that use the euro, (which excludes the UK among a few others), is even stronger up until the 2008 recession hit:

http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/euro-area-gdp-per-capita.png?s=emunygdppcapkd&v=201601121645m&d1=19160101&d2=20161231

All in all, it would appear these two areas' biggest problem is that they haven't recovered from the recession as well as we have-they seemed to be doing okay before that.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Japan may have been in economic stagnation for decades

what? no

that's not the case

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@ehBeth,

Oh really ? Take a look at their data post 1990.

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@georgeob1,

Did you take a look at the chart? Their inflation adjusted GDP per capita is clearly not flat since 1990, and they were doing pretty well until the 2008 recession hit. Their problem is that-getting started again after 2008.

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@georgeob1,

I have.

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@ehBeth,

That was georgeobl's statement.

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I can be such a fashion bitch sometimes.

There was a thing with an ex that was just oo much. I took her to a hynotherapist who put her under. And I had the hynotherapist give her the suggestion that when she woke up the next morning, she would notice that there were crop circles in the hair of her armpits.

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@blatham,

And how did that work out?

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