When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

@Olivier5,

I hope you're wrong. I also believe Obama will support Hillary.

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Bernie has been enjoying a new surge in the polls. So, Hillary and Chelsea have started borrowing from Trump and telling blatant lies to make Bernie look bad.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pat-garofalo/articles/2016-01-13/hillary-clintons-bizarre-attack-on-bernie-sanders-health-care-plan

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@edgarblythe,

Are you surprised? She is ENTITLED to become the candidate, didn't you know?

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@edgarblythe,

They have no ethics. That should be covered by all the media to explain they are liars, and CANNOT BE TRUSTED. They didn't teach Chelsea too well when she goes and tells lies to the public.
I wish to see more media coverage on their lies.

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@bobsal u1553115,

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Mixed feelings.

Not sure what you are referring to.

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@snood,

I would bet my right arm that he can't stand her.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

I would bet my right arm that he can't stand her.

Sorry...you mean Bernie, or Obama?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

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I think it very unlikely that Obama would not support his former secretary of state, for whom he has always had nothing but high praise.

She behave as a bitch to him during the primaries 8 years ago. I'm pretty sure he hasn't forgotten, and would be quite surprised if he endorsed her now. It wouldn't be presidential in any case. A president is above the fray.

first time ever

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@snood,

Obama. I watched his face during those debates, during the convention... He knows what the Clintons are, and he likely had some ugly back room meetings with them to make deals as he grabbed that nomination.

Separate from my perceptions and feelings about the Clintons, I think Obama privately barely abides them. Likely the slot of SOS was a concession he made for some help from the Clintons.

It would be far outside the norm for him to step over his former SOS and endorse Bern, but i think there's a chance he might do it - and in doing so, he gets the last laugh on two people I think he detests...

PBO (Pres Barack Obama) campaigned for Bern previously when the choice was wholly his - before he got sucked into the dirt of realpolitik... PBO and Bern are much more like one another than HRC and PBO.

So yeah. PBO for Bernie.

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@Lash,

I might guess that way, but I'm not the recorder or rememberer of all this stuff.

Me, I took it as a how-to-fix stuff now that I'm here move by Obama and advisors, to make her sec of state.

I'm not with you on hating Hillary, Lash, and get tired hearing all about it repeatedly, but get your take.

On whether you are some kind of plant, no, I get you read/talked and evolved.

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@Lash,

Quote Lash:

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Obama. I watched his face during those debates, during the convention... He knows what the Clintons are, and he likely had some ugly back room meetings with them......

Are you writing 1940's style detective novels now? Will the movie be filmed in black and white for effect?

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@Blickers,

I don't mind waiting for the memoir. I remember quotes from him during the era, but I can't readily find them.

When I do, you'll see it.

He most definitely portrayed dislike of the Clintons.

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@Lash,

You're a pill, but I told you that already.

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"I knew he was lying because of arch of his eyebrows and the tilt of his head. I mean, if that isn't proof, what the hell is?"

Or, one might take an example like this one...

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Breitbart News is publicizing a 2008 video in which an even-more-boyish-looking Rubio can be seen advocating cap-and-trade. Conservatives are responding with what they profess to be shock.

...But in 2008, lots of Republicans favored cap-and-trade. John McCain — who, for those who have forgotten, was the Republican presidential nominee — endorsed it. So did his running mate, Sarah Palin. (See Palin affirming her support at 34:00 of her debate with Joe Biden.) Newt Gingrich did, too. Cap-and-trade was a policy with Republican roots, the thinking conservative’s alternative to command-and-control regulation, which would harness the power of markets and apply it to control an undeniable externality.

But there are fewer thinking conservatives these days, and they have gotten much less thoughtful. Yesterday’s mainstream Republican stance is today’s socialist plot. So Rubio's spokesman is heatedly denying the accusation — “Charlie Crist made the same allegation in 2010 and it was debunked then,” Rubio spokesman Alex Conant emailed Breitbart. “Fact is that Marco stood up to Charlie Crist to defeat cap-and-trade” — even though he is saying the very thing his spokesman denies on video:

http://nym.ag/1njTG6m
Now, that's lying.

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Here's one to read...between the lines if you can.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/09/10/lets-be-friends

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Obama soon added a harsher note to the argument: that Hillary, perhaps like her finger-wagging husband, was untrustworthy. On November 10, 2007, Obama’s advisers, in a private memo before a pivotal speech in Iowa, laid out the strategy. “Clinton,” they argued, “can’t be trusted or believed when it comes to change,” because “she’s driven by political calculation, not conviction.”

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Tim Russert told me that, according to his sources, Bill Clinton, in an effort to secure an endorsement for Hillary from Ted Kennedy, said to Kennedy, “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” Clinton’s role in the campaign rattled Obama. He told ABC News in an interview that Clinton “has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling.”

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@snood,

But, dude. Read it. I didn't make it up.

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The seemingly endless and horrible national nightmare of American sailors captured and held by evil-doer Iran is now, at long last, finally over.

It was perhaps the worst 24 hours in American history.

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@blatham,

Since no one was harmed, I don't think we should carry this any further.

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@blatham,

twist...

I do get it that there are myriad takes going on in Iran.
I sort of know all this from a guy who immigrated to the u.s., sort of a tribal master person who ended up owning a coffee shop in Venice, Ca. Many moved to LA, all fine with me.

I don't really understand the fear of new people, except more complexity, but I can understand it if overwhelmed.

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The agnostic thinks there is a god.

Bernie rises.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-nytimes-poll/

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