When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

@woiyo,

woiyo wrote:

Here is what I get out of her testimony. She is a liar, can not be trusted and most likely is guilty of perjury.

Wow. What a surprise that is!!!!

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And she is your candidate for President. Good luck !!

And your candidate for president (no matter who he/she is) is not a liar...and can be trusted, right?

Woiyo...

...you gotta wake up before posting.

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@woiyo,

Or...

Humm...wonder who is happy about how things went...and who isn't!

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

...I will wait for the people to tell the pollsters what they think.

I think very few average Americans are watching this. Most people have jobs and kids and lives and are not going to sit through eleven hours of Congressional hearings. "The people" are going to form their opinions based on what the opinion makers tell them happened.

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@bobsal u1553115,

Hillary looked damn good in that hearing.

I can't think of a better thing for her at this point in her campaign... she faces 11 hours of grilling with strength and aplomb. Not to mention that taking the fight to conservative Republicans is exactly where she wants to be in her race against the upstart Bernie Sanders.

I agree that she should write the conservative House members a big thank you note.

I am not a Hillary supporter which is why I think that this committee hearing was grossly unfair to Bernie Sanders.

The only way to make this right is for them to give Bernie a similar 11 hour grilling.

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@Lash,

You totally missed the point on both the Canadian and UK elections.

Canadian Liberals are not liberals. They are left of conservatives but they are not liberal.

The UK conservatives won their national election and UKIP (UKIP !!!!) had a nearly 10% vote share increase.

Neither of those results are significant moves to the left.

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@engineer,

I listened to several hours of it yesterday as I did other things. I really was startled by how well she handled things. It should be used as a lesson plan for politicians. She schooled the lads.

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@Frank Apisa,

The problem with your attitude, which unfortunately many share with you , is you acknowledged she is a liar and can not be trusted, but "not as bad as the others".

It is that attitude that is ruining the political process in this country. Let's elect the least corrupt person available.

Great job Frank !

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@woiyo,

woiyo wrote:

The problem with your attitude, which unfortunately many share with you , is you acknowledged she is a liar and can not be trusted, but "not as bad as the others".

It is that attitude that is ruining the political process in this country. Let's elect the least corrupt person available.

Great job Frank !

Nice try...no cigar.

Humans lie, Woiyo...and the ones who grow up to be politicians seem to lie more than others.

She can be trusted as much as anyone you might back.

I did not say she was "not as bad as the others"...so putting that in quotes was a lie on your part.

But I love ya anyway.

You do not like Hillary.

Okay...I get that.

Lots of people don't.

You folk will have lots of fun finding fault with her during her first term.

So enjoy yourself.

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@woiyo,

woiyo wrote:

Let's elect the least corrupt person available.

I elect SUPERMAN with JESUS CHRIST as his VP!

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@maxdancona,

After Crushing Defeat Republicans Quietly Move To Drop Clinton Email Investigation
By: Jason Easley more from Jason Easley
Saturday, October 24th, 2015, 12:21 pm

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The Republicans on the House Benghazi Select Committee are quietly moving away from investigating Hillary Clinton’s emails after a hearing that was widely viewed as a win for Clinton and the Democrats.

Politico reported:

Amid growing Democratic accusations of overreaching, especially on the matter of Hillary Clinton’s emails, Republicans on the House Benghazi Committee are now reconsidering how aggressively to pursue the email scandal that’s been dogging the Democratic front-runner.

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“The question becomes: Is it worth the hassle and the drama?” the GOP source said.
The reevaluation follows a Thursday hearing which was widely seen as a success for Clinton, while Republicans failed to strike any decisive blows. Meanwhile, Democrats amped up their claims that the entire investigation was a partisan witch hunt.

The Republican decision to shift the Benghazi committee away from the emails after Clinton’s successful testimony confirms that the purpose of the investigation was always to get Hillary Clinton and that having failed, Republicans are in the process of quietly closing down the investigation.

House Republicans are admitting that no further high-profile witnesses are going to be called and that the Select Committee is going back to doing its work behind closed doors. If Republicans were interested in learning the “truth” about what happened in Benghazi, they would hold more public hearings.

Hillary Clinton won. The witch-hunt over her emails has turned into a political liability and a complete disaster for the Republican Party. Republicans aren’t going to admit it publicly, but in this case actions speak louder than words.

The Republican decision to move away from Clinton’s emails means that Republicans have thrown up the white flag, and their master plot to stop Hillary Clinton is in the process of being abandoned.

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@bobsal u1553115,

There is going to be a new sheriff in town so there will be lots of changes in the House. Get used to it.

I predict that at election time no one will care what happened pre Ryan so if you have some idea that the D down ticket will have success because of what has happened to this point you might reconsider. And if you think that either Trump or Carson will be tagged with what the Congressional R's have done then you are delusional.

This was a sideshow that again advertised that Washington does not work. The winners if there are any winners are guys like Trump and Carson, the guys who want to come too town and start kicking some ass. It will not help Hillary, she just reminded us yet again what having a clinton in power is like. It is always the same, they never deviate, and it kinda sucks.

Hopefully Bill is too old to be shagging the interns now though.

You really have some good tunnel vision going on there BOB. . No wonder you are still so clueless at your age.

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Democratically elected Honduran president, ousted by coup, describes Hillary Clinton:

MANUEL ZELAYA: (translated) She is a very capable woman, intelligent, but she is very weak in the face of pressures from groups that hold power in the United States, the most extremist right-wing sectors of the U.S. government, known as the hawks of Washington. She bowed to those pressures. And that led U.S. policy to Honduras to be ambiguous and mistaken.

On the one hand, they condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup. And Secretary Clinton lent herself to that, maintaining that ambiguity of U.S. policy toward Honduras, which has resulted in a process of distrust and instability of Latin American governments in relation to U.S. foreign policies.

edited to add link: http://www.democracynow.org/2015/7/28/clinton_the_coup_amid_protests_in

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The Hill: Clinton tops 2016 field in drug industry donations (one of her enemies???)

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/257234-clinton-brings-in-most-big-pharma-money-of-2016-field

By Sarah Ferris - 10/17/15 09:51 AM EDT
Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton has received more campaign cash from drug companies than any candidate in either party, even as she proudly declares the industry is one of her biggest enemies.

Clinton accepted $164,315 in the first six months of the campaign from drug companies, far more than the rest of the 2016 field, according to an analysis by Stat News.

Cash from drug companies poured in despite Clinton’s tough public stance on the industry. Last month, she unveiled a plan to combat rising drug prices by clamping down on the rules for pharmaceuticals. In last week’s Democratic debate, she listed off drug companies among the enemies she is most proud to have made in politics.
Clinton has taken a harder stance on drug companies than any other candidate besides Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has also skewered “Big Pharma” as he seeks the Democratic nomination.

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Frank Apisa,
When you read that Hillary has taken more money from big pharma (one of her "worst enemies" in her words) than any other of the active candidates, how do you reconcile things like that? Shrewd politics?

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@snood,

snood wrote:

Frank Apisa,
When you read that Hillary has taken more money from big pharma (one of her "worst enemies" in her words) than any other of the active candidates, how do you reconcile things like that? Shrewd politics?

I just fall back onto the question:

Who do you think has the best chance of defeating the Republicans in the contest for the White House next year...

...and Hillary Clinton comes out clearly as the best choice in my mind.

I think about all those other things...but not a one of them impacts on me anywhere near what the answer to that primary question does.

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@Frank Apisa,

I know you're going to vote for hillary. I'm going to support her if she's the nominee, too. What I'm asking you is not "will these things make you vote for someone else?" I guess I'm wondering if there are any actions Hillary could take that would at least give you a monent's pause. Ok, she's better than the crazy ass Republicans. I guess I'm wondering, does that make any shady, questionable thing she does acceptable to you?

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@snood,

snood wrote:

I know you're going to vote for hillary. I'm going to support her if she's the nominee, too. What I'm asking you is not "will these things make you vote for someone else?" I guess I'm wondering if there are any actions Hillary could take that would at least give you a monent's pause. Ok, she's better than the crazy ass Republicans. I guess I'm wondering, does that make any shady, questionable thing she does acceptable to you?

Why not wonder about something else?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:

I know you're going to vote for hillary. I'm going to support her if she's the nominee, too. What I'm asking you is not "will these things make you vote for someone else?" I guess I'm wondering if there are any actions Hillary could take that would at least give you a monent's pause. Ok, she's better than the crazy ass Republicans. I guess I'm wondering, does that make any shady, questionable thing she does acceptable to you?

Why not wonder about something else?

Hypothetically;

If Hillary were to roll up to your house in a convoy of black SUV's, got out with a fat cigar in her mouth and her goons brought out a family of Mexicans and had them kneel in front of and then proceeded to have a bunch of dogs pee all over them and then they were all assassinated right in front of you while Hillary stood next to you laughing... would you still vote for her because she was the better choice then the Republicans?

I am just curious if there is an actual line she could cross to lose your support.

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@McGentrix,

(lights cigar, sits back in the barcolounger and waits for the answer)

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:

I know you're going to vote for hillary. I'm going to support her if she's the nominee, too. What I'm asking you is not "will these things make you vote for someone else?" I guess I'm wondering if there are any actions Hillary could take that would at least give you a monent's pause. Ok, she's better than the crazy ass Republicans. I guess I'm wondering, does that make any shady, questionable thing she does acceptable to you?

Why not wonder about something else?

Hypothetically;

If Hillary were to roll up to your house in a convoy of black SUV's, got out with a fat cigar in her mouth and her goons brought out a family of Mexicans and had them kneel in front of and then proceeded to have a bunch of dogs pee all over them and then they were all assassinated right in front of you while Hillary stood next to you laughing... would you still vote for her because she was the better choice then the Republicans?

I am just curious if there is an actual line she could cross to lose your support.

Well...it has finally gotten to the totally absurd point I thought it would get to with the line of questioning that has been going on.

There most assuredly is nothing people like you, McG, could accuse her of that would cause me to withdraw my support for her.

I cannot conceive of a likely scenario that would cause me to turn against my support of her.

BUT...if Bernie Sanders were to win the primaries and be nominated...she would instantly lose my support...and all of it would be lavished on Bernie Sanders.

If the Democratic convention delegates decided that they simply did not want her as a candidate...and drafted Joe Biden (despite his reluctance)...she would instantly lose my support...and all of it would be lavished on Joe Biden.

If the Democratic convention delegates decided that they simply did not want her as a candidate...and decided on some other Democrat to head their ticket...she would instantly lose my support...and all of it would be lavished on the person the Dems selected.

I do NOT want a Republican as president...and NOTHING would cause me to extend any support to them...

...EVEN IF HILLARY CLINTON WERE TO CHANGE PARTIES AND BECOME A REPUBLICAN AND GAIN THEIR ENDORSEMENT FOR THEIR TICKET.

(So there is another case where she would lose my support.)

I am at a loss for why people are so interested in why I support her. She is an intelligent, accomplished woman with what I consider the proper credentials for the office. I think most of the charges against her with regard to Benghazi and her email account...are nothing but partisan blather from a terrified group of people who simply despise her...and none of it is anywhere near enough to cause me to abandon her at this time.

Really wish we could be done with this, though.

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