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Senator who spearheaded letter to Iran got $1 Million from Kristol's 'Energency C'tee for Israel'

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 07:55 am
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
So, tell me what do you call Jews who . . . actually support the UN move to recognize Palestine as a State?

They are what are known as self-hating Jews.
NSFW (view)
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 08:17 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
I though YOU supported the right of Palestinians to get their own state...

Long ago I did. But after all the dishonesty and double dealing from the Palestinians and the Europeans, enough is enough.


Olivier5 wrote:
Did Bibi rape you?

I think maybe an idiom is not translating well into English?

I'm just sick of all the lies and hypocrisy and double dealing. The Israeli people were right to vote for an end to peace talks.

I'm very happy for the Israelis that they are resolved to not put up with that nonsense anymore.


By the way, there actually is still going to be a Palestinian state. It's just not going to be based on 1967 borders. When the Europeans extend recognition to the Palestinians, their state will come into existence, but only with what land the Palestinians already possess. Israel will continue to retain full control over all of Area C, and maybe also Area B.
revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 09:24 am
@oralloy,
I'm just glad, contrary to your seeming belief, you are not really in charge of the world.
NSFW (view)
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 10:44 am
@oralloy,
You have been fooled by the israeli government for years into believing their lies about the peace process, and now you've been fooled again, only to belive another set of lies. Bibi owns you.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 11:28 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
You have been fooled by the israeli government for years into believing their lies about the peace process, and now you've been fooled again, only to belive another set of lies. Bibi owns you.

Spare me the Orwellian "truth is a lie" nonsense.

You had your chance to get 1967 borders. You blew it.

Enjoy having a Palestinian state composed of tiny little Bantustans. I know I will.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 12:26 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Enjoy having a Palestinian state composed of tiny little Bantustans. I know I will.

Enjoy the fall of the Israeli apartheid when it happens, as it did in SA. I know I will.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 12:34 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Enjoy the fall of the Israeli apartheid when it happens, as it did in SA. I know I will.

No such Apartheid. Your anti-Semitism is despicable.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 01:39 pm
@oralloy,
Remember where the word "Bantustan" come from, Usatino? You used that word to describe the land left by Israel to the Palestinians, you vile anti-semite!
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 02:46 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
I hope Israel seizes Area B. The Palestinians should really be confined to Area A alone.

These areas have little actual meaning. In practice Israel occupies the whole place.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 02:53 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
These areas have little actual meaning.

So let's return Area B to Israeli control then.


Olivier5 wrote:
In practice Israel occupies the whole place.

Israel ended their occupation of Area A back in the 1990s, when everyone had been fooled into believing that the Palestinians were interested in peace.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 03:08 pm
@oralloy,
Even Area A is routinely re-occupied. These zones are obsolete. That's why Abbas wanted to disband the PA altogether at some point. To stop the charade.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2015 03:22 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Even Area A is routinely re-occupied.

Nonsense.


Olivier5 wrote:
These zones are obsolete.

Israel will keep full military control over Area C.

The Palestinians will be crammed into Area A, which will become the "Palestinian State" once European governments recognize them.

The only question is what will happen to Area B. I say Israel should seize it.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2015 08:34 am

MK Ayelet Shaked (Jewish Home) wrote:
"Just as I don't determine Obama's ministers, he does not have to determine for us," Shaked said during an interview with the Knesset Channel. "The United Stated needs to respect the will of Israeli people."

"Settlement building will be one of the basic guidelines of the next government," she continued, "and just as I don't interfere in American if they build in Florida or California, they don't need to interfere in building in Judea and Samaria."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193059


Senator Lindsey Graham (Republican, South Carolina) wrote:
Let me put the Obama administration on notice. You may not like the fact that Prime Minister Netanyahu won, but he did, and here is what you need to understand. If you are recalculating the administration's support for Israel in terms of how you handle resolutions in the United Nations, you need to understand that Congress will recalculate how we relate to the United Nations if you stand on the sidelines and let the U.N. take over the peace process.

There will be a bipartisan, violent backlash in this body if the Obama administration does not veto a U.N. resolution defining the peace process in the Security Council, avoiding direct negotiations between the parties. I am here to say that one of the casualties of a haphazard foreign policy could be the relationship between the United Nations and the Congress. I promise there is bipartisan support in this body for two things: to stand firmly with Israel and not to allow the U.N. Security Council to take over the peace process in defining the terms of a deal.

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2015/03/23/senate-section/article/s1704-4/
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2015 12:49 pm
@oralloy,
MK Ayelet Shaked (Jewish Home) wrote:
"Just as I don't determine Obama's ministers, he does not have to determine for us," Shaked said during an interview with the Knesset Channel. "The United Stated needs to respect the will of Israeli people."

"Settlement building will be one of the basic guidelines of the next government," she continued, "and just as I don't interfere in American if they build in Florida or California, they don't need to interfere in building in Judea and Samaria."

The United States needs to impose crippling sanctions on the Israeli people for their will to oppress the Palestinian peoples.

Senator Lindsey Graham (Republican, South Carolina) wrote:
I am here to say that one of the casualties of a haphazard foreign policy could be the relationship between the United Nations and the Congress.

Apparently, this megalomaniac thinks that he and the US Congress are more imortant than the United States of America itself, and he's being allowed to legislate?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2015 03:12 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
The United States needs to impose crippling sanctions on the Israeli people for their will to oppress the Palestinian peoples.

Make that "the nations of the world". High time for global economic and military sanctions against Israel.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2015 05:24 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Make that "the nations of the world". High time for global economic and military sanctions against Israel.

The United States will protect Israel from any such aggression.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 25 Mar, 2015 05:26 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Apparently, this megalomaniac thinks that he and the US Congress are more important than the United States of America itself, and he's being allowed to legislate?

He speaks for the American people on this matter.

America stands with Israel.
 

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