So, Any thoughts on Bibi Netantahu's address to Congress

@carloslebaron,

Your wrong. They have paid us by attacking one of our ships, The U S S Liberty, and killing 34 navy personal and wounding 174. For this we have sent them about 10 billion dollars a year since 1967. By God that will teach them a lesson for attacking a U S ship. the 10 billion has enabled Israel to buy congressmen wholesale.

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@glitterbag,

This is Chicken Little rewriting History. It was clear to him 10 years ago that Netanyahu was no good, but he only chooses to mention it now.

Israel hasn't had a decent leader since Yitzhak Rabin was murdered by right wing terrorists. He was the last one serious about swapping land for peace, (and no, Sharon unilaterally pulling out of Gaza doesn't count.) Until you get a leader prepared to bite the bullet and talk turkey with all Palestinians, just like Tony Blair did with Jerry Adams, this will go on and on and on.

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@hawkeye10,

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Individual or groups of congressmen sending letters, often with demands, is part of the SOP of our system.. it happens all the time.

It's illegal as per your own laws. If I were president, the leaders would be sent to jail for a very long time. But you guys take treason lightly... You never even TRIED to prosecute Bush. All you need for the populace to be happy is a good scapegoat, and Snowden plays that role, so everybody else can betray the nation at no cost.

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@carloslebaron,

carloslebaron wrote:

I'm thinking about it.
The US government says that Israel is an "ally" of the US.

Yes. Americans tend to ally with fellow good guys. It's what being American is all about.

carloslebaron wrote:

But, having noticed that the US sends billions of dollars every year to "help" Israel, -and I have no idea why this has to be done

There are few things that have to be done. We choose to do it because we like helping our friends, and because it helps to keep the region stable.

carloslebaron wrote:

what Israel is giving back?

So the only point in having friends is how much use you can get out of those friends??? You sound like someone who in Dungeons and Dragons parlance would be described as neutral evil.

In any case, the US is in a position of luxury where we do not need to ask much of our friends.

carloslebaron wrote:

Then, Israel is not an ally of the US: Israel is a dependent of the US.

No, Israel is our ally. They do not need our aid; they could survive simply by being more proactive about bombing potential threats.

carloslebaron wrote:

I think that making deals with Iran may provide back their good oil like crazy, and this is good, it means cheap gasoline...

Our negotiations with Iran are about curbing their illegal nuclear weapons program, not about them selling lots of oil.

carloslebaron wrote:

So, if Netanyahu has nothing good to offer to the US, then he better keep his mouth shut next time.

I think you have the US confused with someone else. Our allies have the right to speak their mind, and we do not trample on the rights of our allies.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

BiBi has been a huge failure for Israel. If the citizens do not replace then they need their heads examined.

The really sad thing is that it was clear 10 years ago that he is no good.

How exactly is Mr. Netanyahu supposed to be bad for Israel?

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

It's illegal as per your own laws.

Unconstitutional laws don't count.

Olivier5 wrote:

If I were president, the leaders would be sent to jail for a very long time.

Such a president would be impeached and removed from office.

Olivier5 wrote:

But you guys take treason lightly...

There is no treason here.

Olivier5 wrote:

You never even TRIED to prosecute Bush.

No one has the moral standing to charge Mr. Bush with any crime.

Olivier5 wrote:

All you need for the populace to be happy is a good scapegoat, and Snowden plays that role, so everybody else can betray the nation at no cost.

Snowden damaged our nations' defenses against the terrorists who try to murder us.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

Wow, are you actually agreeing with me??? But you think you have superior smarts, what does this mean? Are you as smart as I am, or am I as misguided a moron as you.

And you insist on proving my point that you dont belong at the adults table....

You made a serious mistake in your evaluation of me. Fix it before you make yourself look even more stupid.

You have completely lost your mind. Hope you sober up soon.

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@glitterbag,

translation: "oh, you figured out that I am a fraud. GOTTA RUN NOW!"

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

translation: "oh, you figured out that I am a fraud. GOTTA RUN NOW!"

its not really a secret that you're a fraud, everybody already knows.

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Do you any of you think Netantahu will not be elected tomorrow? I gotta confess, I am confused by their elections.

Israel election: An end or new era for Netanyahu?

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Do you any of you think Netantahu will not be elected tomorrow? I gotta confess, I am confused by their elections.

Israel election: An end or new era for Netanyahu?

It comes down to whether the Zionists care more about their domestic economic issues or their paranoia in regard to having to deal with their oppression of the Palestinian peoples and their conflation of that with "existence."

Like the Brits, they vote for parties, not individual candidates.

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OK, you have to hand it to the man, he played that very well.

The Professor had to have had a few works with staff about that. Just what was not needed, another foreign policy major area of our engagement going very much against our will and needs. The guy (oh brilliant one) has failed at just about everything he has claimed to be trying to accomplish around the world. Bush, then this idiot? What must the world think of us? One after anther the leaders of both parties and elected leaders of the United States of America have proven to be amazingly incompetent.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

Like the Brits, they vote for parties, not individual candidates.

No, with the exception of the European Parliament which is PR, we vote for individual candidates as MPs. The MPs (legislative) then choose the prime minister(executive.) Although we all know it will either be the Tory incumbent Cameron, or Labour leader Ed Miliband.

Until the last government our first past the post system meant coalitions were a rarity.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

The Professor had to have had a few works with staff about that. Just what was not needed, another foreign policy major area of our engagement going very much against our will and needs. The guy (oh brilliant one) has failed at just about everything he has claimed to be trying to accomplish around the world.

Ending the peace talks may be against our will, but I don't see how we need them.

In any case, the blame for the end to the peace talks falls squarely on the Palestinians and their European supporters. There is little that either Mr. Obama or Mr. Netanyahu could have done about it.

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@InfraBlue,

Netanyahu wins elections

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With more than 99 percent of the votes tallied, Israel’s incumbent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appears poised to retain his office and form the next government.

Though the final campaign polls showed Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud party trailing behind the centre-left Zionist Union, headed by Isaac Herzog, Likud gained 30 seats, six more than its main competitor, according to official results released on Wednesday.

The Joint Arab Coalition, an electoral alliance of four Palestinian-majority parties in Israel, pulled 14 seats, and Yesh Atid, the centrist party headed by former finance minister Yair Lapid, earned 11 seats. Kulanu, a right-wing breakaway party led by former Likud member Moshe Kahlon, took ten seats.

A number of smaller, mostly right-wing parties were unable to break the single digits: Jewish Home earned eight seats, the religious Shas and United Torah parties each got seven and the ultra-nationalist Yisrael Beitenu has six seats.

The left-wing Zionist party Meretz walked away with four seats.

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin has called for a national unity government including both Likud and the Zionist Union, but that prospect is unpopular with most Jewish Israeli voters.

According to a poll conducted by Israel’s Channel 10, 53 percent of Jewish Israelis oppose such a coalition.

Some analysts expect Netanyahu to cobble together a coalition with right-wing and religious parties.

The Likud party announced on Wednesday morning that Netanyahu has reached out to leaders of the parties with which he hopes to form a coalition: the Jewish Home party, Kulanu, Yisrael Beitenu, Shas and the United Torah Party

Palestinian state?

Zionist Union MK Revital Swid worried that restarting negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority would be difficult under another Netanyahu-led government.

"Regarding security, we all understand that there are challenges in the north and the south of Israel," she told Al Jazeera. "But people want to see a start of negotiations [with the Palestinians] and putting the peace process back on track."

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@oralloy,

You are so mulish and tunneled visioned you are illogical. It is like blaming someone for fighting back who wants to take over your house.

Israel proved by their vote they have no intention of having a two state solution or even that there are honest brokers in any peace talks.

Bibi: No Palestinian State If I Win

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With the Israeli elections just hours away, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he would not allow a Palestinian state to be established if his party stays in power. “I think anyone who is going to establish a Palestinian state, and to evacuate territory, is giving radical Islam a staging ground against the State of Israel,” Netanyahu said at a press conference in a bid to win over right-wing voters. Furthermore, Netanyahu pledged to build more settlements in the West Bank after years of construction that has drawn international condemnation. “We will continue to build in Jerusalem, we will add thousands of housing units, and in the face of all the [international] pressure, we will persist and continue to develop our eternal capital.”

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

You are so mulish and tunneled visioned you are illogical.

I notice that you didn't manage to point out any logical flaws.

revelette2 wrote:

It is like blaming someone for fighting back who wants to take over your house.

Note that it is Israel's house, and the Palestinians are the ones who are trying to take over.

More to the point though, is the fact that Israel tried making the Palestinians a fair offer, over and over and over and over and over again, and every time, all Israel got for their trouble was the Palestinians murdering more Israeli children, followed by people spewing outrageous lies claiming Israel didn't make the offer they had just made.

Israel has offered 1967 borders enough times. The Palestinians have rejected the offer enough times. And people have lied enough times to deny that Israel made the offers.

It is time to stop offering the Palestinians 1967 borders. You guys had your chance, and you blew it.

revelette2 wrote:

Israel proved by their vote they have no intention of having a two state solution or even that there are honest brokers in any peace talks.

Good. After all of the outrages from the Palestinians and their evil supporters, Israel is right to do so.

But don't worry. There is still going to be a two-state solution in the end. The Palestinian state is just going to a lot smaller and more isolated than what 1967 borders would have provided.

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@izzythepush,

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

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@revelette2,

You sound surprised to find that you're not having a reasonable discussion. This is Oralboy remember, imagine a malignant pustule filled with hate, intolerance, ignorance, stupidity and a complete disregard for the sanctity of human life. You wouldn't expect to be able to have a reasonable conversation/debate with that, so don't waste your time expecting it from Oralboy.

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@izzythepush,

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Israel hasn't had a decent leader since Yitzhak Rabin was murdered by right wing terrorists.

I recollect when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated. He was murdered by a settler. At the trial of this settler, a young man of 25 going by the name of Yigal Amir, an ultranationalist, was smiling broadly before the court. He thought by killing PM Rabin he was doing God's will. He believed a god gave all Jews the land of Palestine. There were those attending the trial who believed the same way. There are extremists in modern Israel just like there are extremists in every human group. The burning of the young Palestinian boy alive by a group of Israeli men, makes us aware of this fanaticism.

You are correct. Israel has not seen a decent Prime Minister since the assassination. But one thing is for certainty, at this time, Israel is on the wrong course with history and the rest of the world.

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