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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 10:48 am
@Baldimo,
The point is that trump lost the vote.. He won only by a statistical fluke
Why do you think 2020 wi!I be different when the majority has never supported what hedoes . And impeachment is the constitutional way of dealing with a corrupt malfeasing prez to coin a word. Fail.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 10:56 am
@MontereyJack,
Change Brittany for Trump and you've got Baldimo.

Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 12:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
The point is that trump lost the vote.. He won only by a statistical fluke

The Constitution is a statistical fluke? As I noted, the popular votes has never been the rules by which the Presidential election has been run. The Constitution spells out how the President is elected, he won a majority of states, just as the Constitution calls for. The statistical fluke is the popular vote, it's just like yards in a football game. Good factoid but meaningless when the rules of the game say points win the game, not yards.

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Why do you think 2020 wi!I be different when the majority has never supported what hedoes .

The 2020 election is going to be won by Trump. You can claim the majority all you want, but the majority is learning that the left is full of crap and they are scared about the open border/pro-illegal immigrant and anti-american policies they are really pushing. They will attempt to buy votes with free higher education, free healthcare and free money.

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And impeachment is the constitutional way of dealing with a corrupt malfeasing prez to coin a word. Fail.

Impeachment is a joke. You guys have been trying a revolving impeachment excuse since the election. 25th Amendment, the Russia-gate hoax and now a bogus claim of quid quo pro. Just wait, the real report is coming out, criminal proceedings and grand juries are going to be formed. The real truth of Russia-gate is going to be exposed, it's going to be worse than Water-gate. The only fail, will be of the DNC to over throw a dully elected President.

Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 12:10 pm
@izzythepush,
You can pick on Trump all you want to, but lying about events for political gains is unpatriotic. As noted, the Russia-gate scandal is going to be exposed shortly, and the lies of certain former heads of intelligence agencies are going to be questioned about their acts. One of them is already started deflecting and saying "I only did what my boss told me to do."

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 12:15 pm
@izzythepush,
That meme could be an English girl talking about her gang rape the UK authorities did nothing about. What do you think?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 01:07 pm
@Baldimo,
I do agree with your last statement. Trump is a dully. "elected president. Dull decision certainly. Voted the worst ptrsidrnt since ww2. The whole procedure that gave us him was a dull mistake. Try"duly " next. Time you type it but even if you had the right word "dully" just fits so.muh better.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 01:21 pm
@Baldimo,
Your claims about what you think others are thinking are pretty much just head in the sand rightist wish fulfillment rather than reality. Trump is running way.behind in the swing states that he took by whisker thin margins in 16 that he needs to win in20. That bodes ill for him. And half the country wants him impeached and removed from office. Its constiutional. The country doesnt like him or want him or his agenda. We aim to make it so convincing that no ghastly ec mistake can foist him on us again.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 01:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
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Your claims about what you think others are thinking are pretty much just head in the sand rightist wish fulfillment rather than reality. Trump is running way.behind in the swing states that he took by whisker thin margins in 16 that he needs to win in20. That bodes ill for him.

These were the same types of claims we saw from the MSM leading up to the 2016 election, they were wrong then, and they will be wrong again. We know the media bias is against Trump, so the polls are going to meet that. Trump has been destroying the DNC in campaign donations, combined the top candidates can't come close to getting what Trump is.

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And half the country wants him impeached and removed from office.

It isn't half, once again the polls are being manipulated by the anti-Trump media. As for his impeachment, why isn't it being done in public, why are they hiding in SKIF's? It's like the secret courts of the old Soviet Union. The only info we are getting out of there are the selective leaks by Schiff. We know he can't be trusted, he was one of the key liars from the Russia investigation, he was on TV claiming to have seen the doc's that said Trump was guilty. We now know it was a total lie, there were no doc's, just talking points made-up by Schiff. He even went as far as to make up an entire conversation by Trump and the Ukraine President.

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Its constiutional.

Yes, the EC is Constitutional, yet you seem to think it's the popular vote that counts.

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The country doesnt like him or want him or his agenda.

Wrong, a portion of the country doesn't like him. People of your ilk don't want him, that's enough to make me vote for him in 2020.

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We aim to make it so convincing that no ghastly ec mistake can foist him on us again.

The EC isn't ghastly just because the corrupt Hillary didn't win, she ran a horrible campaign and didn't even try to win certain states. Your claim for the popular vote has no mention or bearing in the Constitution.



oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:41 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Just another pack of opinions with no factual basis masquerading as facts, as always.

Wrong again. Progressives don't like facts. But facts are not opinions no matter how inconvenient they are to progressives.

http://patcrosscartoons.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/the-facts1.jpg
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:42 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Sorry to say, but there typically isn't many "average" Americans who can afford a trip to a World Champion game of any type. Tickets are way to expensive and then dealing with the jacked up hotel rates in those cities hosting the events. Stubhub shows single tickets going for $600+. In DC those seats are going to be filled with the swamp people from K street.

Last Olympics I looked into ticket prices for Olympic events. Tickets were in the neighborhood of $500 for a single afternoon event. Going to the Olympics and watching a fair number of events must cost in excess of $50,000.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
The point is that trump lost the vote.. He won only by a statistical fluke

That is incorrect. Trump won 304 to 227.


MontereyJack wrote:
Why do you think 2020 will be different when the majority has never supported what he does.

Voters don't like it that progressives violate our civil liberties for fun. Voters do like that Trump protects our civil liberties.


MontereyJack wrote:
And impeachment is the constitutional way of dealing with a corrupt malfeasing prez to coin a word. Fail.

It will probably be a number of decades before we see another Democratic president, but as soon as we do get one, we need to impeach them and remove them from office as soon as they are sworn in. We don't need to be letting people like that in the White House.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:44 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Your claims about what you think others are thinking are pretty much just head in the sand rightist wish fulfillment rather than reality. Trump is running way.behind in the swing states that he took by whisker thin margins in 16 that he needs to win in20. That bodes ill for him. And half the country wants him impeached and removed from office. Its constiutional. The country doesnt like him or want him or his agenda. We aim to make it so convincing that no ghastly ec mistake can foist him on us again.

Back in 2013 you were saying nonsense like that about 2016.

Guess what? Not all voters are demented enough to vote for a progressive candidate.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 05:50 pm
Court throws out North Carolina's congressional district maps
The ruling said that the maps were "drawn in violation of our North Carolina Constitution."

Oct. 28, 2019, 6:46 PM EDT
By Pete Williams

North Carolina cannot use the existing maps for its congressional districts in next year's elections, a state court ruled late Monday, declaring them to be invalid partisan gerrymanders.

The ruling was a victory for state Democrats who lost a battle when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that such challenges were beyond the authority of federal courts to referee. So the fight resumed in state court, citing violations of North Carolina's constitution.

A three-judge panel of state judges issued an order Monday barring state officials from using the current map for the coming elections, including the March presidential primary. The panel stopped short of ordering the legislature to draw new maps but said disruptions could be avoided "should the General Assembly, on its own initiative, act immediately and will all due haste to enact new congressional districts."

The ruling said delaying the primary could reduce voter turnout and increase the cost of the election. But it said, "those consequences pale in comparison to voters of our state proceeding to vote, yet again, in congressional elections administered pursuant to maps drawn in violation of our North Carolina Constitution."

The legislature designed the current maps in 2016 after a court declared the congressional district boundaries to be an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. But the new maps were drawn to ensure the partisan breakdown of the state's congressional delegation⁠: Ten Republicans and three Democrats.

In 2016, a Republican state legislator involved in the process, Rep. David Lewis, said "I think electing Republicans is better than electing Democrats," adding at the time that he drew the map "to help foster what I think is better for the country."

In their lawsuit, the challengers said the map may be "the most extreme and brazen partisan gerrymander in American history." The legislature limited the ability of Democrats to elect the candidates of their choosing by concentrating them into just three districts and diluting their voting strength in the remaining ones, the court concluded.

The state court earlier this year struck down the boundary lines for state house and senate districts on similar grounds. The legislature declined to appeal and instead redrew the maps in time to meet the court's two-week deadline.

The Supreme Court's ruling in June declared that partisan gerrymandering cases were off limits for the federal courts. But it nonetheless said state courts could consider such challenges. Some justices were stinging in their criticism of North Carolina's map and a similar gerrymander in Maryland. Such blatantly partisan moves, said Elena Kagan, "debased and dishonored our democracy, turning upside-down the core American idea that all governmental power derives from the people."
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 10:01 pm
Humbly believe how the US extricates itself from this presidency defines whether the founding fathers came up with a model that can survive an attack on its institutions.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2019 10:09 pm
@hingehead,
When Obama is exposed and all the others that will restore belief in our institutions. You know nothing about America. You should stay away from the subject.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 07:08 am
@coldjoint,
Your view of America and Obama is ideologically driven, conspiracy-theory-derived, and basically sheer right wing fantasy. In other words, you know nothing about what America really is either.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 07:26 am
@Baldimo,
Congratulations on buying into right-wing conspiracy theories yet again.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 09:00 am
@MontereyJack,
Swap Trump with Obama, and you might be on to something.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:04 pm
Report: Baghdadi raid succeeded ‘in spite of,' not thanks to, Donald Trump’s actions
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/27/1895456/-Military-officials-admit-Trump-almost-ruined-the-raid
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2019 12:05 pm
We have idiots handling our national security who do not even know how to prevent a butt dial...
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