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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:12 am
@Baldimo,
We've solved it, we solved it after Dunblane.

You could have solved it too, but you're not interested in solutions, just in strutting about with a gun so you can feel like a big man. A child's life is more important than your desperate need to feel important.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:27 am
@izzythepush,
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We've solved it, we solved it after Dunblane.

Good for you. Now you have to worry about getting stabbed while walking down the street. Don't try and claim London and the UK have no crime, it was already shown that London was more dangerous than the streets of NY, and that's saying something.

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You could have solved it too, but you're not interested in solutions, just in strutting about with a gun so you can feel like a big man.

I actually don't walk around with a gun like you seem to think. I actually walk around with a pocket knife as my EDC.

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A child's life is more important than your desperate need to feel important.

You have said nothing here but make some sort of weak emotional plea. The children are being killed in "gun free zones". The only solution you seem to think will work is a ban on guns... that isn't a solution at all as there are millions of US gun owners and a vast vast majority committ no crimes or murders with their guns. I have several guns in my house, none of them have harmed anyone.

Well one made a guy crap his pants when he was trying to break into my garage in the early morning hours many years ago. I pointed it at him and asked him what he was doing in my backyard. He looked at me, he looked at the gun and he was out of my backyard and over the fence quicker than you can imagine. No one had issues with their garages being broke into again, the guy figured out that at least one neighbor was armed and left the neighborhood in peace.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:33 am
@Baldimo,
I've never claimed we have no crime. That's you making **** up because you've got nothing substantive.

The murder rate in US is off the charts compared to the rest of the developed world, it's closer to war zones.

Do you miss the Afghany black you got off the Taliban? So much better than the American stuff.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:36 am
@Glennn,
Indeed, 'my' solution is to tightly regulate driving through the use of driving liscences and a road code that includes stiff fines for drunk drivers.
Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:38 am
@Olivier5,
But the real issue is with how the driver uses alcohol.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:50 am
@Glennn,
The real issue is that while drink driving is declining in America mass shootings are on the increase.

https://imyourdd.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/madd-drunk-driving-deaths-crop.jpg

https://imyourdd.wordpress.com/

Like I said it's a lousy analogy, unless of course you take it as proof that something can be done, if there's a will.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:51 am
@Glennn,
And therefore such use may need to be regulated.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:57 am
@oralloy,
Ok so you support background checks if they can be near instantaneous, and nothing else. That ain't much. I suppose it's something.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 11:59 am
@Olivier5,
I thought I also said that I'd support red flag laws under certain circumstances, and would look the other way on placing large magazines under the NFA under certain circumstances.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:05 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:

But the real issue is with how the driver uses alcohol.


Boy it sure sounds like it, what do you think needs to be done.
Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:09 pm
@Glennn,
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But the real issue is with how the driver uses alcohol.

Yeah, kind of like how the real issue is how the gun owner uses the gun, huh?
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Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:13 pm
@glitterbag,
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Boy it sure sounds like it, what do you think needs to be done.

Well if we go by the recommendations of some of the posters regarding the solution to gun problem, we need to also ban alcohol. It's a factor in firearm homicides as well as traffic deaths.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:14 pm
@izzythepush,
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I've never claimed we have no crime. That's you making **** up because you've got nothing substantive.

I didn't make anything up, you are the one who makes things up. I only said don't try and say they don't have crime. London is less safe than NY.

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The murder rate in US is off the charts compared to the rest of the developed world, it's closer to war zones.

The US is far safer than people like you make it out to be, in fact depending on where you live. Live in a big city like Chicago, LA, Baltimore or NY and your chances of being killed or assaulted is greatly increased. Live in a smaller city like I do and it is one of the safest places in the world.

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Do you miss the Afghany black you got off the Taliban? So much better than the American stuff.

See how you operate. Always talking **** about people. Are you really that weak of a person that you have to make things up and disparage them?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:14 pm
@oralloy,
'Looking the other way' means what? Either you support something or you don't.

This red flag idea will never work in practice. There are far too many wakos with guns in the US for sheriffs to go after each abd everyone if them and take their guns. It's just not practical.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:17 pm
@Olivier5,
Looking the other way means not opposing it.

There aren't all that many dangerous people in the US.
Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:23 pm
@Olivier5,
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This red flag idea will never work in practice.

Well what about the Nicolas Cruz case? That red flag was probably the size of a football field, and those in law enforcement should have been held to account for ignoring it. The negligence on their part was beyond glaring.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:54 pm
@oralloy,
Either you think regulating large size magazines can help, or you don't.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:54 pm
@Glennn,
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Well what about the Nicolas Cruz case? That red flag was probably the size of a football field, and those in law enforcement should have been held to account for ignoring it. The negligence on their part was beyond glaring.

Those in law enforcement would have been held accountable sooner if not for the attacks on gun owners and the NRA. CNN even had the failure of a police Captain on their "townhall" after the shootings and CNN and the students gave him a pass. He has since been fired for failing to do his job. The chicken **** cop who didn't go into the school was also fired. Now we need to find out why the rest of the political leaders in FL haven't been held accountable for failing to stop the shootings.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:56 pm
@Olivier5,
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Either you think regulating large size magazines can help, or you don't.

First we need to get a proper definition of what a "large capacity magazine" really is. The standard size is actually 30 rounds and a large capacity mag could be anything larger than the 30 rounds. I see no reason for 100 round drums and they can be banned.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2019 12:59 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

London is less safe than NY.



And you have the cheek to talk about making **** up. Alright, I'll give you that, but it's bollocks, and if you'd bothered to check the facts you'd know it was bollocks.

That's the thing about you, I don't know if you genuinely believe this ****, are too lazy to check it out, or know it's **** and repeat it anyway.

The skewed up figures you refer to all come down to one month, I think it was a February, either this year or last, where the crime rate in London exceeded that of New York. One month! In the months before and since then the crime rate in NY is higher.

And London's bigger than New York.
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