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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:40 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Only of they made a deal with the Old Guard.

Elections are won by having people vote.
http://patcrosscartoons.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/stolen.jpg
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:43 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Full the schools up with arm teachers an a percent of them will mishandle their firearms.

If the rifles stay in the gun safes except in the case of emergency, there should be no problem.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:50 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
Only of they made a deal with the Old Guard.

Elections are won by having people vote.
http://patcrosscartoons.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/stolen.jpg


An keeping people from voting an o reducing the power of their votes by all manner of mean such as rigging the census as just one current example.

eyeing the census as a way to boost Republican power through redistricting.

Quote:


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-census/trump-administration-to-face-claim-of-deceit-over-us-census-question-idUSKCN1T611U

That broader lawsuit is now before the U.S. Supreme Court, which is expected to decide the fate of the citizenship question this month. The complaint before Furman is over whether the Trump administration hid the fact that a now-deceased Republican strategist had orchestrated inclusion of the citizenship question in order to boost Republicans’ chances in state and federal elections.

While U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has said the citizenship question will help federal authorities enforce voter protections, plaintiffs claim it is aimed at scaring immigrants into abstaining from the census.

An undercount of immigrants could cost their communities a decade’s worth of federal funding, as well as seats in the U.S. Congress and state legislatures.

Wednesday’s hearing followed revelations last week that Thomas Hofeller, the deceased Republican redistricting strategist, had concluded in a 2015 study that asking a citizenship question would be advantageous to Republicans when it came to drawing voting districts.

They say Hofeller went on to ghostwrite a draft letter from the Department of Justice to the Department of Commerce, asking for the addition of the question.

Plaintiffs said the administration hid this fact during trial last year. The Trump administration, in court papers this week, dismissed that claim as an “eleventh-hour campaign to improperly derail” the Supreme Court’s decision.

Furman, on Wednesday, said sanctions “can just as easily be imposed or granted after a Supreme Court decision.”

Furman had banned the citizenship question in January, a decision that the government appealed. The Supreme Court justices appeared inclined to allow the question to stand during oral arguments in April.

Hofeller’s draft letter was discovered in unrelated litigation in North Carolina, after his hard drives were discovered by an estranged daughter following his death last August.

Reuters reported in April that the Trump administration had been eyeing the census as a way to boost Republican power through redistricting.

BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:52 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
Full the schools up with arm teachers an a percent of them will mishandle their firearms.

If the rifles stay in the gun safes except in the case of emergency, there should be no problem.


Sure there will not be a problem........................
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:54 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
An keeping people from voting an o reducing the power of their votes by all manner of mean such as rigging the census as just one current example.
eyeing the census as a way to boost Republican power through redistricting.

The only people who are trying to rig the census are Democrats who want illegal immigrants to participate in elections.

Preventing Democrats from rigging the census, is not rigging the census.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:55 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
Full the schools up with arm teachers an a percent of them will mishandle their firearms.

If the rifles stay in the gun safes except in the case of emergency, there should be no problem.


Sure there will not be a problem........................as teachers are never never careless or unstable or ..................

BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 05:57 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
An keeping people from voting an o reducing the power of their votes by all manner of mean such as rigging the census as just one current example.

The only people who are trying to rig the census are Democrats who want illegal immigrants to participate in elections.


Strange as the only voting fraud I hear about in the last election was done in support of a republican.

Quote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/05/we-finally-found-voter-fraud/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a2003e722f4b

The Post reported on a GOP operative, Leslie McCrae Dowless, who allegedly ran an operation to collect absentee ballots (which they are not permitted to do) and discard them.

On Monday, the board issued a subpoena to the Harris campaign, according to campaign attorney John Branch. The board is expected to issue one soon to Red Dome Group, a GOP consulting firm based in the suburbs of Charlotte that hired Dowless, according to two people familiar with the probe. . . .

Investigators with the bipartisan state elections board — which last week voted unanimously to delay certifying the race — have identified hundreds of potential witnesses to interview, many of them voters whose absentee ballots were never turned in, according to the people familiar with the probe. That raises the possibility of a weeks-long investigation and an uncertain start date for the next congressman from the 9th District.

The absentee ballots, wouldn’t you know, are disproportionately from African American neighborhoods.

Fortunately, the state’s bipartisan election board has not yet certified the result and will hold a hearing on December 21. If this drags on, as it almost certainly will, Democrats may refuse to seat Harris, an unusual but not unprecedented move.

There are a few points to underscore here.

First, Republicans have done untold damage to the integrity of elections by their false claims of fraud; and now, when the real thing appears to have occurred, the boys who cried wolf are nowhere to be seen. This is the most blatant and arguably serious example of putting party above country, and above democracy. You have to question whether a party that is uncommitted to preserving the credibility and integrity of elections is fit to govern.

Second, with control of committees and the agenda in the House, Democrats are well-positioned to move forward with House Resolution 1, which just so happens to be about voting access, corruption and campaign finance. Public hearings on the actual impediments to voting (as we saw in Georgia with voter-roll purges, exact match rules and long lines at polling places in African American neighborhoods ), as well as concrete evidence of fraud (as will be presented in North Carolina) should inform the debate. Automatic voter registration should address some issues, but the apparent shenanigans in North Carolina and Georgia during this election cycle are a giant advertisement for updating of the Voting Rights Act and the reinstitution of the pre-clearance measures for those states with a history of voting violations.

Third, if Harris’s apparent victory is voided, the Democratic House majority will assure he is not seated. But do we have any doubt that if Republicans were in the majority they’d find some rationale for sitting a Republican, no matter what evidence was presented and how many African American votes were discarded? If Republicans want to know why they are distrusted and reviled by so many nonwhite voters, they should look in the mirror. If you won’t stand up for certain voters' most fundamental right — voting — why in the world would they trust you to look out for any of their other interests?

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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:01 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
An keeping people from voting an o reducing the power of their votes by all manner of mean such as rigging the census as just one current example.
eyeing the census as a way to boost Republican power through redistricting.

The only people who are trying to rig the census are Democrats who want illegal immigrants to participate in elections.

Preventing Democrats from rigging the census, is not rigging the census.


LOL you mean undercounting people due to making them afraid of replying to the census?

Sorry the dead idiot that came up with that plan put the reasons on his computer and it was to enable more redistricting in their favor.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:09 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Strange as the only voting fraud I hear about in the last election was done in support of a republican.

We never hear about leftist fraud because Democrats prevent the matter from ever being looked into.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:11 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
LOL you mean undercounting people due to making them afraid of replying to the census?

No. I mean not counting illegal immigrants when apportioning congressional districts.


BillRM wrote:
Sorry the dead idiot that came up with that plan put the reasons on his computer and it was to enable more redistricting in their favor.

It is more to prevent the left from unfairly redistricting in their favor.

Leftists don't like it when people prevent them from cheating.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:12 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
as teachers are never never careless or unstable or ..................

Should we disarm all police officers just in case a police officer might be unstable?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:21 pm
Voter fraud indeed.


Quote:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/26/18241838/mark-harris-north-carolina-election-fraud-nc-9

Mark Harris won’t run for Congress again after ballot fraud allegations derailed his apparent victory in November and led the North Carolina elections board to call a new election in the state’s Ninth District.

Harris, who had defeated sitting Rep. Robert Pittenger in the GOP primary last spring, cited health concerns to explain his decision. He threw his support behind local county commissioner Stony Rushing in the upcoming Republican primary for the new election.

The state elections board ruled last week that a bizarre ballot tampering scheme had tainted the basic fairness of the November vote and ordered a new election. There will first be a new primary election, required by a recently passed state law, that will determine the Democratic and Republican candidates. The timing for the new elections will be announced soon.

On Election Day, Harris was leading Democrat Dan McCready by fewer than 1,000 votes, but his win was never certified by the state board after allegations of electoral misconduct became public.

Over a remarkable four-day hearing, state investigators laid out in detail an “unlawful,” “coordinated,” and well-funded plot to tamper with absentee ballots in a US House election that remained uncalled more than three months after Election Day — finally bringing some clarity to one of the strangest election scandals in recent memory.

State investigators established their theory of the case — that a Republican operative, Leslie McCrae Dowless, directed a coordinated scheme to unlawfully collect, falsely witness, and otherwise tamper with absentee ballots — and workers who say they had assisted him in the scheme delivered damning testimony describing their activities. Dowless himself refused to testify, on the advice of his lawyer.

After four days of evidence indicating fraud and an attempt to conceal the scheme from state investigators, Harris himself told the state election board he believed a new election should be called. The board voted to do so soon afterward.

A top political consultant for Harris’s campaign and the candidate’s own son had given their own searing testimony about the decision to hire Dowless. The consultant, Andy Yates, and John Harris both insisted that Harris did not know what Dowless was doing and proved too trusting about the operative’s claims. Yet John Harris did say that he had warned his father that Dowless’s prior work on absentee ballots seemed like it could be illegal, a warning that went unheeded by the candidate. His testimony left Mark Harris in tears.

The board — made up of three Democrats and two Republicans — had reconvened after Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper named new members amid an unrelated legal dispute. They reviewed the evidence in the case over two days and then voted to call for a new election at the hearing’s conclusion.

Under state law, the board is able to call a new election if the basic fairness of the election was tainted. It doesn’t matter whether the number of votes in dispute would have been enough to swing the outcome.

For the House, the question is whether the Democratic majority will grow by one more seat or not. But the voters in the Ninth District will get the chance at a clean election after the state’s investigation brought to light a convoluted scheme to collect, witness, and tamper with absentee ballots in this district along the state’s southern border.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:24 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
as teachers are never never careless or unstable or ..................

Should we disarm all police officers just in case a police officer might be unstable?


Until we can get the second amendment repeal unlike the UK our cops will need to remain arm an as a result year after year innocent unarmed people will be gun down including children but we do not need to increase that death troll by arming teachers.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:27 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
LOL you mean undercounting people due to making them afraid of replying to the census?

No. I mean not counting illegal immigrants when apportioning congressional districts.


Well you can change the constitution but as of now the census count everyone in the US as of the date of the census.

BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:33 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
LOL you mean undercounting people due to making them afraid of replying to the census?

No. I mean not counting illegal immigrants when apportioning congressional districts.

Well you can change the constitution but as of now the census count everyone in the US as of the date of the census.

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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:41 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Until we can get the second amendment repeal

We're not going to do away with civil liberties here in America.

Have you gotten rid of your own firearms?


BillRM wrote:
unlike the UK our cops will need to remain arm an as a result year after year innocent unarmed people will be gun down including children but we do not need to increase that death troll by arming teachers.

I think it is questionable that allowing teachers to defend students will increase the number of people who are killed.

But if you want kids to be defenseless, fine with me. Just don't come looking for sympathy when kids are massacred.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:42 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Well you can change the constitution but as of now the census count everyone in the US as of the date of the census.

The Constitution doesn't say to count illegal immigrants in the census.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 06:42 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Well you can change the constitution but as of now the census count everyone in the US as of the date of the census.

You can also ask a simple question.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jun, 2019 07:00 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
Well you can change the constitution but as of now the census count everyone in the US as of the date of the census.

The Constitution doesn't say to count illegal immigrants in the census.


Sorry the very concept of illegal immigrants was not around to any degree at the time and the constitution have the census counting everyone legal, citizens or not legal everyone in the damn country at the time of the census.

Hell blacks was not allow to vote but they was counted in the first censuses with a discount as far as congress was concern but they was still counted.

If you do not like it change the damn constitution.
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