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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:26 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
what you mean by mob rule is nothing but majority rules, and that's how actions are taken in the US, always has been

That is incorrect. The majority is not allowed to violate people's civil liberties in America, even if they have the votes to do so.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:30 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
What are you going to cry about when Trump is defeated again in 2020?

He won't be defeated. The Democrats have no chance of winning the White House until 2036.

And they won't even win in 2036 unless they purge the Democratic Party of all the nutty extremists and nominate a sensible moderate.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Really? Show me in he constitution where it says the ec vote has to be from widely separated areas. How do you get wider separation than NY and Calif.?

I didn't say that areas have to be separated. I said that it has to be a broad area. You mathematically can't get a majority of the electoral college without appealing to voters across a broad area.

A handful of isolated large cities might win the popular vote, but a handful of isolated large cities will never win the electoral college.


MontereyJack wrote:
Voter manipulation is a factless gop meme.

It is not a coincidence that Democrats are pushing for a system where voter manipulation counts more than appealing to the voters.

Democrats know that they don't appeal to most of America, so they always try to cheat their way into office.


MontereyJack wrote:
And if repubs won n election based on the popular vote ungerrymandered Dems would accept that.

The electoral college is hardly gerrymandering.

I'm pretty sure the whining will be pretty loud whenever all the electoral votes in a Democratic state have to go to a Republican solely because there is a high Republican turnout in a different state.


MontereyJack wrote:
But the GOP is not winning those votes. That's their problem.

If the Democrats succeed in changing the system so that manipulation counts more than appealing to voters, the Republicans will change and play by the new rules.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:33 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
The fact here is that it is the woman who has to go through the months of pregnancy. you know, carrying that growing future person inside of herself. Gaining weight, dealing often with increased blood pressure (to dangerous levels), gestational diabetes and plenty more!

If they survive that, they face risks and complications when giving birth or undergoing a C-section. Physical shock, elevated blood pressure, excessive bleeding...

After the birth, more difficulties may arise, including postpartum depression.

All the man does is to go "Boing, boing, boing, ahhhhh! " and he can then disappear into the night (or day) possibly never to be seen or heard from again.

The woman should get to make the decision, not some screwheaded man.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:41 pm
@Sturgis,
The notion that a father bears no responsibility is pure sophistry. Have you never heard of child support payments?
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FreedomEyeLove
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:42 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:

The woman should get to make the decision, not some screwheaded man.


That's fine with me. But then that woman should get ZERO financial support from the man. Like you just said,
Quote:
All the man does is to go "Boing, boing, boing, ahhhhh!


If that's all that men are doing, then why should they be financially beholden to these women who want to cut them out of every other aspect of their children?

If you think that women deserve all control over children, but you also think that men should be forced to pay for these children that they get no say in, and often times never even get to see, then what you're advocating for is special privileges for woman and not for men just because.

This solipsism is entire basis for feminism.

What feminism is, is female nature weaponized. And it is ABSOLUTELY anti-male.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:46 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
What we need is reliable male birth control for men. That way if a man feels that he is not ready to become a father, he can take birth control pills.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
To repeat, state laws in 48 of the 50 states mandate that their electors must vote for the winner of the popular vote in that state, which means the popular vote is directly related to the ec vote. The kicker is that the 2 votes for electors representing the senators in the state make an anti-democratic bonus for smaller population states. Which is why there is the push on to get enough states to total 260 votes to agree that their electors must vote for the winner of the popular vote.

The reason is because Democrats want to win elections through manipulation instead of by appealing to the voters on the issues.


MontereyJack wrote:
If states can mandate electors to vote for the winner of the popular vote in that state, they clearly can mandate the electors vote for the winner of the popular vote, and democracy will triumph.

Having our elections decided with manipulation and demagogy will not be good for democracy.


MontereyJack wrote:
Help democracy win. Make sure your state backs the popular vote initiative.

If any Michigan legislators try to pull this sort of crap on us, we'll see to it that they are recalled from office.

Michigan's electoral votes are going to be directed by Michigan voters, not by voter turnout in other states.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Nope. One person, one vote. Democracy.

That's what the electoral college ensures.
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FreedomEyeLove
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 02:54 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
What we need is reliable male birth control for men.


Yes!

Are you familiar with Vasalgel?

https://www.parsemus.org/projects/vasalgel/

Interesting how male birth control options don't seem to be prioritized by the FDA. I'm sure that has nothing to do with feminist lobbying Rolling Eyes

Can you even imagine a world where women weren't able to hold the power of reproduction over men as a bargaining chip to get things they want?

Just think about how our society would transform. The effects would be HUGE and trancendental!

neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 03:00 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
https://able2know.org/topic/508102-1#post-6829621
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 03:15 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
FreedomEyeLove wrote:
Interesting how male birth control options don't seem to be prioritized by the FDA. I'm sure that has nothing to do with feminist lobbying Rolling Eyes

The left certainly doesn't seem very eager to push for government funding of such research.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 04:00 pm
@FreedomEyeLove,
FreedomEyeLove wrote:
Just think about how our society would transform. The effects would be HUGE and trancendental!


You want to know how feminism has shaped our culture? By this...

JPMorgan Chase settles claims it discriminated against dads
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By Paul R. La Monica, CNN Business

New York (CNN Business)JPMorgan Chase on Thursday agreed to pay $5 million to settle a discrimination case related to its parental leave policy for fathers.

The class-action case was prompted by a man at the company who said he was denied the opportunity to take additional paid parental leave as a primary caregiver.

"We are pleased to have reached an agreement in this matter and look forward to more effectively communicating the policy so that all men and women employees are aware of their benefits," said Reid Broda, JPMorgan Chase's associate general counsel, in a statement to CNN Business.
The charge was originally filed in 2017 with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission by Derek Rotondo, an investigator on the bank's security and audit team. Rotondo alleged that he was not given the same amount of parental leave after the birth of his two children as employees who were mothers would have received.

Rotondo claimed that the bank presumptively considered biological mothers as primary caregivers, and gave them 16 weeks of paid parental leave. But as a father, he would only be considered as such if he could prove that his spouse was incapacitated or already returned to work.

According to his claim, Rotondo was denied a request for extended leave because he could not show either of those exceptions.

After Rotondo filed his claim, JPMorgan Chase (JPM) agreed to give him 16 weeks of caregiver leave. While the bank said it already had a gender-neutral parental leave policy, it clarified that policy in December 2017 to ensure equal access to all parents seeking to serve as a primary caregiver, regardless of gender.

"I love my children, and all I wanted was to spend time with them when they were born," Rotondo said in a statement released Thursday by the American Civil Liberties Union and the workers' rights law firm Outten & Golden LLP, which worked on the case.

"I'm proud that since I filed my charge, Chase has clarified its policy to ensure that both male and female employees who wish to be the primary parental caregiver have equal access to those benefits," Rotondo added.

The $5 million will be split among other fathers, though it's not clear how many people will receive a payment.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 05:24 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
You want to know how feminism has shaped our culture?

It has added to the all talk, no action bullshit we live with. They are hypocrites when it comes to women suffering under Islam, and treat Conservative women like garbage.

Just another group to divide people. That is what they have added. More reasons to hate someone who does not think like you. That is not progress, it is regression.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 05:49 pm
@coldjoint,
And what sort of "action" would you like to see?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 05:55 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
And what sort of "action" would you like to see?

What are you offering?
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 06:07 pm
@coldjoint,
-Make child marriage illegal in all cases
-Ensure women are equally represented in our government
-Closing gender wage gap
-Family leave policies open to both men and women
-Harsher penalties for perpetrators of sexual crimes
-Opening up the Selective Service to include women

There's more, but that's a good start.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 06:11 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
There's more, but that's a good start.

How about immigration reform and infrastructure? We need a country or women will never see the things you want.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 06:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Explain how crumbling roads are specifically due to feminism.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2019 06:30 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Explain how crumbling roads are specifically due to feminism.

I never said they were. There are bigger fish to fry.
 

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