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@Sturgis,

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Tamir Rice. He was 12 years of age when a trigger happy cop shot him dead in a Cleveland Ohio park, November 22, 2014.
The police officer, Timothy Loehmann was not indicted or punished for his crime. He did subsequently lose his job due to having lied on his job application.

In other words, Tamir Rice's life is worth less than a job application.

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@Olivier5,

It's more the fact that his shooting was not the result of wrongdoing.

The job application thing was just an excuse to lynch the poor guy.

One more victim in the BLM goons' quest for the right of black people to murder police officers with impunity.

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@Olivier5,

How did elections go this weekend... did Macron keep his seat?

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

It's more the fact that his shooting was not the result of wrongdoing.

The job application thing was just an excuse to lynch the poor guy.

One more victim in the BLM goons' quest for the right of black people to murder police officers with impunity.

It would be nice if the police would try harder not to kill completely innocent black males including pre-teen children before people such of yourself state that blacks wish to killed police officers.

Can not know the fear black parents must feel everytimes their children go out the door.

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@BillRM,

Tamir Rice was walking around with a realistic gun that didn't have the orange tip in it, the very thing that lets people know it isn't real. What happened was tragic, but it wasn't murder.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

How did elections go this weekend... did Macron keep his seat?

You really are profoundly ignorant.

The weekend's elections were for the European parliament, they don't affect the make up of the French parliament at all.

In your rush to make a snide comment all you've done is confirm you're a complete numpty.

You don't need to do that, it's blindingly obvious to everyone.

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@Baldimo,

He wasn’t “walking around” anywhere but in a playground. The cop had rolled up, drawn his weapon, fired and killed the boy in a few seconds - before Tamir even had a chance to so much as beg for his life. This cowardly act couldn’t be considered justified except in a society that does not value the lives of black boys, and so condones police brutality toward them.

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@snood,

Safety orange tip on those guns prevents these types of shootings. Color has nothing to do with it, people reported someone in the park with a gun.

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@snood,

That's silly. They thought it was a real gun.

Cops shooting kids with realistic-looking toy guns is not a new problem, and is hardly the fault of the police officers.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

In your rush to make a snide comment all you've done is confirm you're a complete numpty.

I don't think he meant it as a snide remark.

I am only vaguely aware of the European elections myself, although I have heard it mentioned briefly on the news I think. It's not getting big coverage in the US.

Our news coverage is packed with reporters throwing tantrums about something that Trump did that day (or something that he tweeted). It's virtually nonstop Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

It would be nice if the police would try harder not to kill completely innocent black males including pre-teen children before people such of yourself state that blacks wish to killed police officers.

When someone tries to murder a police officer, it is reasonable for me to characterize it as an attempt to murder a police officer.

Cops shooting a kid because a toy gun looked real to them is not a new problem, and it is hardly the police officers' fault.

BillRM wrote:

Can not know the fear black parents must feel everytimes their children go out the door.

Meh. Every single time that I have ever made a good-faith effort to discuss and try to come up with solutions to problems faced by black people, all I got for my trouble was hate and abuse. I've reached the point where I could not care less about their problems.

If police are not allowed to defend themselves, then they will stop confronting criminals. People will have to start defending themselves. I expect that "Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up" will become quite popular in urban areas if this happens.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
It would be nice if the police would try harder not to kill completely innocent black males including pre-teen children before people such of yourself state that blacks wish to killed police officers.

When someone tries to murder a police officer, it is reasonable for me to characterize it as an attempt to murder a police officer.

Cops shooting a kid because a toy gun looked real to them is not a new problem, and it is hardly the police officers' fault.

BillRM wrote:
Can not know the fear black parents must feel everytimes their children go out the door.

Meh. Every single time that I have ever made a good-faith effort to discuss and try to come up with solutions to problems faced by black people, all I got for my trouble was hate and abuse. I've reached the point where I could not care less about their problems.

If police are not allowed to defend themselves, then they will stop confronting criminals. People will have to start defending themselves. I expect that "Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up" will become quite popular in urban areas if this happens.

If being a kid and playing with look alike guns was a free pass for a cop to kill
a kid I myself would never had reach the age of 14 or so but then we are not talking about all kids just black children and the town I grow up in have no repeat no blacks at all.

One wonder why many black parents tend to look upon cops as not protectors but as likely murderers of themselves and their children.

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@BillRM,

Cops shooting kids with realistic looking guns is not a problem limited to black children.

I don't care why black parents have delusions. Self defense is not murder.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Cops shooting kids with realistic looking guns is not a problem limited to black children.

I don't care why black parents have delusions. Self defense is not murder.

OH???? Please link to a white sub teenager who was killed by cops while playing with a toy gun.

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@BillRM,

A toy gun that had the safety orange tip removed... why is this factor never mentioned by you guys? It looks like an attempt to deny facts and mix them with emotions to generate outrage.

Here are the facts on people being shot while carrying realistic looking guns:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/in-two-years-police-killed-86-people-brandishing-guns-that-look-real--but-arent/2016/12/18/ec005c3a-b025-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html?utm_term=.2519fd611817

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

A toy gun that had the safety orange tip removed... why is this factor never mentioned by you guys? It looks like an attempt to deny facts and mix them with emotions to generate outrage.

Here are the facts on people being shot while carrying realistic looking guns:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/in-two-years-police-killed-86-people-brandishing-guns-that-look-real--but-arent/2016/12/18/ec005c3a-b025-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html?utm_term=.2519fd611817

So any toy without the orange tip on it mean that cops are free to assume that it is a real weapon an gun down a child that have not even reach his teen years?

Orange tips are nice and can help IDing toy guns as toy guns however repeat however not all model weapons including BB guns come with such tips nor is it uncommon for toys guns to not have orange tips on them. Having an orange tip is in fact is no guarantee that it is not a real gun that someone had placed such a tip on.

Hell the citizen who call in the 911 report that resulted in the death of this child stated he did not think the gun was real.

Too bad that you seems to think that it is good police work to assume that no orange tip mean a real gun and therefore cops are not under any obligation to approach the child in a manner that does not required a slit second kill or do not kill decision.

Of course it is only good police work when it is a black child it would seems.

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@BillRM,

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So any toy without the orange tip on it mean that cops are free to assume that it is a real weapon an gun down a child that have not even reach his teen years?

Yes, that is exactly what will happen. Remove the orange safety tip from a toy gun and cops are going to think it's a real gun and defend themselves. Those orange safety tips are mandated by federal law to prevent this very thing from happening.

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Orange tips are nice and can help IDing toy guns as toy guns however repeat however not all model weapons including BB guns come with such tips nor is it uncommon for toys guns to not have orange tips on them.

If you have a gun that looks like a real gun, it is mandatory to have those orange tips in them.
"In the United States, federal law and regulations indicate that all toy guns transported or imported into the country must have a 6mm-wide blaze orange tip or a blaze orange stripe 1-inch (2.54 centimeters) thick on both sides of the barrel. However, this is not required by federal law for airsoft and paintball. Part 272 of Title 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations on foreign commerce and trade (15 CFR 272) states that "no person shall manufacture, enter into commerce, ship, transport, or receive any toy, look-alike, or imitation firearm" without approved markings; these may include an orange tip, orange barrel plug, brightly colored (safety orange) exterior of the whole toy, or transparent construction."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_gun

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Hell the citizen who call in the 911 report that resulted in the death of this child stated he did not think the gun was real.

Did dispatch pass along that information to the police officer?

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Too bad that you seems to think that it is good police work to assume that no orange tip mean a real gun and therefore cops are not under any obligation to approach the child in a manner that does not required a slit second kill or do not kill decision.

When you can't win with facts, you move to emotion? I never said anything about "good police" work, I called it a tragedy, which is exactly what this was.

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Of course it is only good police work when it is a black child it would seems.

Stop with the BS. You were beat on the facts of the case, no one thinks it a good thing when this happens. I have 2 mixed race sons, I know the fear of such things more than you do.

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@Baldimo,

Please stop!
The cops shoot people(usually those who aren't white) even when no gun, real or fake is involved. They've been known to unleash a barrage of bullets on people with a cellphone out of who are already on the ground or who have their back turned.

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@Sturgis,

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The cops shoot people(usually those who aren't white) even when no gun, real or fake is involved.

How wrong you are, police shoot and kill more white people than POC. There was already a study released in the last few years and debated here that showed white people are killed more often than black people.

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They've been known to unleash a barrage of bullets on people with a cellphone out of who are already on the ground or who have their back turned.

Yes, this has happened but it is the exception and not the rule.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

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The cops shoot people(usually those who aren't white) even when no gun, real or fake is involved.

How wrong you are, police shoot and kill more white people than POC. There was already a study released in the last few years and debated here that showed white people are killed more often than black people.

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They've been known to unleash a barrage of bullets on people with a cellphone out of who are already on the ground or who have their back turned.

Yes, this has happened but it is the exception and not the rule.

Forgetting that there are roughly 9 white citizens to every black citizens it would seems as far as the kill ratio is concern.

I know the police are trying hard to overcome this imbalance by killing even more blacks but they are only human.

It must be hell for a black driver when he see the police wish to pull him over to need to fear for his life instead of just getting at most a traffic ticket.

Such killings will not stop until the criminal justice system come down hard on cop murderers even if their victims happen to be black.

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