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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 09:26 am
@MontereyJack,
Yeah it’s illogical and racist and foolish. Mix in a few paranoid gun nut delusions and sprinkle with a random defense of absolutely any mindless thing Trump and Republicans do, and you’ve got Orraloy’s whole spiel.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 09:35 am
@snood,
Falsely accusing everyone of racism is silly.

Condemning BLM goons for their actual position is neither illogical nor foolish.

It is no delusion that freedom haters are out to violate people's civil liberties for fun.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 09:36 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
blatant racist nonsense

Falsely accusing everyone of racism is silly.


MontereyJack wrote:
oralloy maintains BLM wants to murder cops because they don't want cops killing black folks.

Because BLM doesn't want cops killing black folks in self defense when those black folks are in the process of murdering those cops.


MontereyJack wrote:
his specious reasoning is that means BLM's platform therefore supports killing cops because it means they can't defend themselves from attacks,

Nothing specious about it. That is exactly what BLM's platform is.


MontereyJack wrote:
which position is totally non-derivable from the BLM posiition which means exactly what it says: they don't want cops killing innocent black folks, that and nothing more.

That is incorrect. BLM's position is that they don't want cops killing black folks in self defense when those black folks are in the process of murdering those cops.


MontereyJack wrote:
oralloy once again makes wildly illogical leaps in argument.

No leaps and no lack of logic. A call to prevent police officers from defending themselves when black people try to kill them is indeed a call for black people to be able to murder police officers with impunity.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:19 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:
blatant racist nonsense

Falsely accusing everyone of racism is silly.


MontereyJack wrote:
oralloy maintains BLM wants to murder cops because they don't want cops killing black folks.

Because BLM doesn't want cops killing black folks in self defense when those black folks are in the process of murdering those cops.


MontereyJack wrote:
his specious reasoning is that means BLM's platform therefore supports killing cops because it means they can't defend themselves from attacks,


Sorry but there had been too many cases of so call self defense by cops that had been nothing less the murder by cops of unarmed blacks including one 12 years old playing in a park.
Nothing specious about it. That is exactly what BLM's platform is.


MontereyJack wrote:
which position is totally non-derivable from the BLM posiition which means exactly what it says: they don't want cops killing innocent black folks, that and nothing more.

That is incorrect. BLM's position is that they don't want cops killing black folks in self defense when those black folks are in the process of murdering those cops.


MontereyJack wrote:
oralloy once again makes wildly illogical leaps in argument.

No leaps and no lack of logic. A call to prevent police officers from defending themselves when black people try to kill them is indeed a call for black people to be able to murder police officers with impunity.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:26 am
@TheCobbler,
The majority of the mass shootings in the country are not done by "republician white men". The school shooting here in CO is a perfect example, one gay male student and one "trans" female student. Neither of them were white and neither of them were right leaning, they were left wing wacko's. The media went silent on this story the minute the facts were heard, can't let the public know that left-wing people are loose cannons.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:27 am
@MontereyJack,
If there is a God, he speaks every language with their native accent...
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:29 am
@TheCobbler,
This goes to show you the media hype about the KKK and "white nationalist" is exactly that, hype. There is no major push from either of these groups, it's media lies to promote left-wing politics. The MSM is a mouth piece for the DNC.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:31 am
@TheCobbler,
I can't wait till this is struck down as un-Constitutional. The weakness in these laws is that they didn't put them to a popular vote in the state. CO did exactly that, didn't bother to ask the citizens of CO if we wanted our votes done that way.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 11:00 am
@Baldimo,
All republicans seem to rewrite history so it conforms to their personal beliefs. Screw the truth.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 01:06 pm
@RABEL222,
Democrats have done similar. It is one of those rotten things which goes along with most political parties.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 01:11 pm
@Sturgis,
What is your 'both sides do it' Democrat version of Trump?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 01:14 pm
@snood,
I was referring to the way history gets rewritten for political gain.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 01:36 pm
@Sturgis,
I know what you were referring to.

There always seems to be a ‘both sides do it’ answer for any failing that’s pointed out about the Right/Republican/conservative side of the ledger. I just don’t believe there’s any Democratic/liberal/progressive precedent that would serve in that capacity for Donald John Trump.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 02:26 pm
@snood,
Quote:
I just don’t believe there’s any Democratic/liberal/progressive precedent that would serve in that capacity for Donald John Trump.

I don't either, they hate this country and its citizens. Trump loves this country. It shows, and it frosts a lot of balls on the Left.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 05:48 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Sorry but there had been too many cases of so call self defense by cops that had been nothing less the murder by cops of unarmed blacks including one 12 years old playing in a park.

I am unaware which cases you are referring to, but needless to say I am skeptical.

The cases that the BLM goons actually protest are cases of legitimate self defense when black people were actually trying to murder police officers (and in one case, a neighborhood watch captain).
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 05:53 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
I just don’t believe there’s any Democratic/liberal/progressive precedent that would serve in that capacity for Donald John Trump.

Trump is accused (although not with any credibility) of multiple counts of obstruction.

Bill Clinton committed multiple counts of obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct. Democrats said that this did not justify impeachment. And then when Republicans impeached him anyway, Democrats said that it did not justify removal from office.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 07:54 pm
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 10:24 pm
@RABEL222,
What exactly is being rewritten?
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 27 May, 2019 11:04 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Quote:
...murder by cops...including one 12 years old playing in a park.
unaware...
...skeptical

Tamir Rice. He was 12 years of age when a trigger happy cop shot him dead in a Cleveland Ohio park, November 22, 2014.
The police officer, Timothy Loehmann was not indicted or punished for his crime. He did subsequently lose his job due to having lied on his job application.



Unaware and skeptical, two words which speak volumes about you. How you could pretend to be in any way knowledgeable about anything when you weren't even aware of a tragedy which was shown across all forms of media for a long time, is beyond comprehension.

Next you'll claim to never having heard of Eric Garner either.
(the departmental trial of his killer, Daniel Pantaleo, has been again delayed)
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 28 May, 2019 12:17 am
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
Tamir Rice. He was 12 years of age when a trigger happy cop shot him dead in a Cleveland Ohio park, November 22, 2014.

That was not a murder. It appeared to the police that he was trying to draw a gun on them.


Sturgis wrote:
The police officer, Timothy Loehmann was not indicted or punished for his crime.

He didn't commit any crime.


Sturgis wrote:
Unaware and skeptical, two words which speak volumes about you. How you could pretend to be in any way knowledgeable about anything when you weren't even aware of a tragedy which was shown across all forms of media for a long time, is beyond comprehension.

I said that I was unaware of any such murders. Tamir Rice was not murdered.

I will confess though to having thought the kid was 14, so I didn't connect him to the claim of a 12 year old. But I would not have acknowledged the shooting as a murder even if I had known which event he was referring to.


Sturgis wrote:
Next you'll claim to never having heard of Eric Garner either.

No, I've heard of him.
http://able2know.org/topic/355218-3519#post-6846297

He as well was not murdered.


Sturgis wrote:
the departmental trial of his killer, Daniel Pantaleo, has been again delayed

The entire "trial" is a travesty. The Civilian Complaint Review Board engaged in outright fraud in order to fabricate the jurisdiction to press these charges.
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