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@BillRM,

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Forgetting that there are roughly 9 white citizens to every black citizens it would seems as far as the kill ratio is concern.

More nonesense with no facts, just emotion.

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I know the police are trying hard to overcome this imbalance by killing even more blacks but they are only human.

With that comment, you lost all credibility.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

How wrong you are, police shoot and kill more white people than POC. There was already a study released in the last few years and debated here that showed white people are killed more often than black people.

You just refer to absolute numbers here? Or are racial demographics included?

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

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Forgetting that there are roughly 9 white citizens to every black citizens it would seems as far as the kill ratio is concern.

More nonesense with no facts, just emotion.

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I know the police are trying hard to overcome this imbalance by killing even more blacks but they are only human.

With that comment, you lost all credibility.

You mean that the 9 to 1 ratio between whites and blacks is not correct and the US census is lying?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Baldimo wrote:
How wrong you are, police shoot and kill more white people than POC. There was already a study released in the last few years and debated here that showed white people are killed more often than black people.
You just refer to absolute numbers here? Or are racial demographics included?

Come on we all know the man is playing games and he is indeed talking about absolute numbers.

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@BillRM,

absolute numbers are what counts, those are the real numbers of people killed by police, trying to play a demographics game is just that a game.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

absolute numbers are what counts, those are the real numbers of people killed by police, trying to play a demographics game is just that a game.

A very educated response!

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

absolute numbers are what counts, those are the real numbers of people killed by police, trying to play a demographics game is just that a game.

LOL so the number of dead bodies count not the fact that drivers who are black is roughly 9 times more likely to be killed by cops then white drivers during say a traffic stop???????

Love your logic here........or to be honest your lack of logic.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Baldimo wrote:
absolute numbers are what counts, those are the real numbers of people killed by police, trying to play a demographics game is just that a game.
A very educated response!

You kidding right?

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@Walter Hinteler,

The left wants to look at population demographics but never want to look at crime demographics and who is committing the crimes. Inner cities have higher crimes rates when compared to the suburbs, so police interaction is going to be much different. Look at the city of Chicago as a perfect example. The south and west side of the city are where a majority of the crime and shootings take place, here's a hint, that's where the gangs are...
The only reason I talk about Chicago is because I used to live there and I'm most familiar with the layout of that city. Here's a decent map showing the US and where shootings have taken place over the last 5 years. Check Chicago and click thru the different years, you will notice that a majority of the shootings each year take place in the same area's.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

My point is you can't talk about the police shootings without first talking about the area's where these shootings take place and what the crime level is for those area's. There's more to it then "police like to shoot black people", that's why I dismiss the notion of population ratio's and police shootings without looking at the bigger picture.

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@Baldimo,

Color has EVERYTHING to do with it.
A white kid isn’t suspected of having a real gun. The cop wouldn’t have even been called on a white kid with this same gun.

If he happened upon a white kid with this gun, the worst thing that happened would be a friendly warning to him that it looked a little too real.

But the worst possible expectation was hung on that black kid. Prejudice, fear, expectation. Racism. That’s what killed that kid.

And SO many others. They don’t have a fair chance.

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@Lash,

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Color has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Yeah, in the case of Tamir Rice, it was the lack of an orange color tipped barrel, mandated by federal law to prevent these types of shootings, which indicated it was a toy gun. If you think Tamir was shot because he was black, then I don't know what else to say.

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A white kid isn’t suspected of having a real gun. The cop wouldn’t have even been called on a white kid with this same gun.

I would disagree, and you don't have anything to back your assumption except this one case.

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If he happened upon a white kid with this gun, the worst thing that happened would be a friendly warning to him that it looked a little too real.

It is against the law to have such a gun, the orange tip is mandated by federal law to prevent this very type of thing from happening. The orange tip was removed, and after looking at pictures of the gun in question, it looks exactly like a Colt 1911. I've also discovered Tamir was 5' 7" 175lbs, that's really big for a 12 year old well above average and easy to mistake him for someone in high school.

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But the worst possible expectation was hung on that black kid. Prejudice, fear, expectation. Racism. That’s what killed that kid.

And SO many others. They don’t have a fair chance.

We will have to agree to disagree. What happened was horrible and I don't blame Tamir or the police for the situation. I'm more afraid of my deaf son driving and getting shot because the cops think he's ignoring them, than him getting shot because he's part black. I bought him a lamented card that indicates his hearing loss so they don't think he is ignoring them, it's called a "visor card".

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

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Color has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Yeah, in the case of Tamir Rice, it was the lack of an orange color tipped barrel, mandated by federal law to prevent these types of shootings, which indicated it was a toy gun. If you think Tamir was shot because he was black, then I don't know what else to say.

Yes indeed he was shot because he is black as we all know how dangerous even young black children can be.

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@BillRM,

That is incorrect. He was shot because it appeared that he was pulling a gun on police officers.

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@BillRM,

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OH???? Please link to a white sub teenager who was killed by cops while playing with a toy gun.

I'm not aware of any links.

Usually no one cares when an innocent white person is killed, because complaining about such shootings doesn't further the agenda of allowing black people to murder police officers with impunity.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

So any toy without the orange tip on it mean that cops are free to assume that it is a real weapon an gun down a child that have not even reach his teen years?

Yes.

BillRM wrote:

Having an orange tip is in fact is no guarantee that it is not a real gun that someone had placed such a tip on.

True. And the orange tips are seldom noticed anyway.

They should make it mandatory for toy guns to be made entirely of a bright color of some sort, and make it illegal for a real gun to have such bright colors.

BillRM wrote:

Hell the citizen who call in the 911 report that resulted in the death of this child stated he did not think the gun was real.

The dispatcher was suspended for eight days for not passing this information along to the police.

BillRM wrote:

Too bad that you seems to think that it is good police work to assume that no orange tip mean a real gun and therefore cops are not under any obligation to approach the child in a manner that does not required a split second kill or do not kill decision.

What manner of approach would this be?

If such a manner of approach exists, it would be good for the police to use it when approaching everyone, child and adult alike.

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

Please stop!

Why should we stop defending the truth?

Sturgis wrote:

The cops shoot people(usually those who aren't white) even when no gun, real or fake is involved.

A lot of white people are killed this way too.

But complaining when an innocent white person is killed doesn't further the agenda of allowing black people to murder police officers with impunity.

Sturgis wrote:

They've been known to unleash a barrage of bullets on people with a cellphone out of who are already on the ground or who have their back turned.

Like Erik Scott for instance. And Michael Bell Junior.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Forgetting that there are roughly 9 white citizens to every black citizens it would seems as far as the kill ratio is concern.

How does this ratio make innocent white victims unimportant?

BillRM wrote:

I know the police are trying hard to overcome this imbalance by killing even more blacks but they are only human.

That's just silly.

BillRM wrote:

Such killings will not stop until the criminal justice system come down hard on cop murderers even if their victims happen to be black.

Self defense is hardly murder.

If you penalize the police for defending themselves, then everyone is going to have to start defending themselves, because the police won't be coming when people call for help.

"Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up" will probably become quite popular in urban areas.

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Trump cant spel basick werds. Not very inteligint.

Immoral and stupid seem to go hand in hand.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

Color has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Only because, since the death of an innocent white person doesn't further the cause of allowing black people to murder police officers, the deaths of innocent white people are being ignored.

Lash wrote:

A white kid isn’t suspected of having a real gun. The cop wouldn’t have even been called on a white kid with this same gun.
If he happened upon a white kid with this gun, the worst thing that happened would be a friendly warning to him that it looked a little too real.

I wouldn't bet on that.

Lash wrote:

But the worst possible expectation was hung on that black kid. Prejudice, fear, expectation. Racism. That’s what killed that kid.

What killed the kid was the appearance that he was pulling a gun on the police.

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Forgetting that there are roughly 9 white citizens to every black citizens it would seems as far as the kill ratio is concern.

Imagine if the progressives had not talked black pe0ple into killing all those black babies. They keep the population down, and it is by design. Someone should call them racist.

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