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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:35 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
We even don't elect our leader - no matter, if it's the chancellor or the president of Germany - directly.
Same in the UK,
Exactly as I said. Thank you for once again confirming that I am correct.
Well, you really have no idea how
- proportional elections work,
- our chancellor (and president) is elected.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:52 am

https://i.imgur.com/jou6ecY.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:56 am
@Region Philbis,
Nothing about President Valerie Jarrett. You remember her, she gave the stand down order in Benghazi.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:57 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
No.
The party that wins the majority forms its own government and appoints a Prime Minister. That's not necessarily the leader of the party.
How often do they choose someone other than their own leader?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:58 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
You looked that up,
No, I am aware of parliamentary democracy already.

You might recall that I was just describing to MontereyJack how parliamentary democracy has similarities to our own electoral college when it comes to choosing the leader of the country.

http://able2know.org/topic/267070-741#post-6796950
http://able2know.org/topic/267070-741#post-6796959

izzythepush wrote:
but you still can't give any names like constituency or House of Commons.
I wasn't asked for such names.

I am familiar with the term House of Commons. I don't however know of any use of the term constituency beyond the way it is used in the US.

izzythepush wrote:
The easiest, most logical, way to do it would be to compare it to your own Congress. Instead of having direct elections the speaker has executive powers, but when you're cutting and pasting something you only have a tenuous grip of logic doesn't come into it.
Nothing was cut and pasted. I do my own thinking. That's why I am so rarely wrong.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, you really have no idea how
- proportional elections work,
- our chancellor (and president) is elected.
I've heard of the concept before, although I was not aware that Germany used such a system until you said so.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:09 am
Oops!
Sanders apologizes after falsely claiming Trump created more jobs for African-Americans than Obama
https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/sanders-apologizes-after-falsely-claiming-trump-created-more-jobs-for-african-americans-than-obama-1299518531604

https://i0.wp.com/r3sist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/sanders-apologizes-after-falsely-claiming-trump-created-more-jobs-for-african-americans-than-obama.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&ssl=1

False claim or just one more lie among many?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:15 am
@coldjoint,

your #whataboutism is duly noted and ignored...
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:24 am
@Region Philbis,
What the left calls whataboutism, is really hypocrisy. They like to point out "whataboutism" because it diverts from what they have said and done in the past.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:26 am
@oralloy,
Winston Churchill wasn't party leader when he became PM.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 12:09 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
your #whataboutism is duly noted and ignored...

Can't ignore the damage president Jarrett did. Billions to Iran and being complicit, if not responsible, for the deaths of 4 Americans. Your not giving a **** about your country duly noted, and it will not be ignored.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 12:09 pm
@oralloy,
Actually, we've got what in English as called a "mixed-member proportional system", in the federal parliament elections and for most state parliaments.

The pure proportional representation system was used in the Weimar Republic (since 1919).

The President of Germany, who is the head of state of Germany, is elected by a specially convened Federal Convention which mirrors the aggregated majority position in the Bundestag and in the parliaments of the 16 German states.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 12:19 pm
@Baldimo,
So in other words you are preaching for the Tyranny of the Minority
(that's MINORITY) while I am for One Person One Vote. I'm more in tune with American values.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 12:23 pm
@coldjoint,
Nonsene
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 12:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Nonsene

Quote:
Time to Out Sinister Valerie Jarrett

Quote:
At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission.” (Richard Miniter, Leading from Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him.)

Valerie Jarrett gave the order for the bin Laden kill. Was it Jarrett who advised Obama to refuse help to Americans under sustained terrorist attack in Benghazi?

The ‘Happy Gang’ membership of the Two-Obamas-Plus-Valerie is one of the most peculiar relationships to ever make a home of the White House.

Jarrett never lets either Obama out of her sight and reportedly even follows them home to the White House at the end of each day.

Why is this private citizen afforded full security at taxpayer expense while heroes die in Benghazi?

It was Jarrett more than any other who made a manchurian candidate out of radical community organizer Barack Hussein Obama, having first hired his fiance Michelle Robinson back in 1991 when she was still Deputy Chief of Staff to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/time-to-out-sinister-valerie-jarrett
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 01:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
So in other words you are preaching for the Tyranny of the Minority
(that's MINORITY) while I am for One Person One Vote.

I support the Constitution, which you don't.

Quote:
I'm more in tune with American values.

You are not even close. A majority of us Americans still believe in the Constitution.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 02:17 pm
Quote:
Quote:
Media Ignores Real Political Violence: Berkeley Liberal Beating Conservative (VIDEO)

In tune with Americans? We now punch who disagrees with us, got it.
https://lidblog.com/media-ignores-liberal-violence/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 02:37 pm
Quote:
Trump Gets Negative Media Coverage—But Approval Wrecks Obama’s
Laughing Laughing Laughing
Quote:
Though the coverage has been 92 percent negative towards Trump. Trump’s approval rating after the midterms sat at 47 percent. Obama’s approval rating was stagnant at 45 percent around the same time in 2010, according to a similar NBC/Wall Street Journal poll taken in late October 2010.

https://westernfreepress.com/trump-gets-negative-media-coverage-but-approval-wrecks-obamas-jl/
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 03:32 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
What the left calls whataboutism, is really hypocrisy. They like to point out "whataboutism" because it diverts from what they have said and done in the past.
Exactly. Leftists would like a system where they are allowed to flagrantly violate the law while everyone who disagrees with them gets convicted of imaginary crimes.

The Republicans are not going to let the left create such a system.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 03:33 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Winston Churchill wasn't party leader when he became PM.
That's interesting.

I think Neville Chamberlain is given a raw deal by historians on the appeasement stuff, by the way. It was necessary for him to avoid confronting Germany before the UK had built up their forces and was ready to take them on.
 

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