Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

@coldjoint,

I ask you, joint,who's the one that has told over 7500 lies and mistruths in office in two years? When Jefferson talked about the corrupt and the filled with lies, he was presciently describing donald trump.

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@MontereyJack,

Considering the fact that the left actively whitewashes Obama's lies, and falsely accuses Trump Administration officials of lying when they aren't, it is highly plausible that Obama is the biggest liar in recent presidential history.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

the undemocratic winner-take-all

Elections are undemocratic?

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@oralloy,

when it's a national election and each individyal part of it is anti-democratic, yes.

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@MontereyJack,

All the other first world countries divide the vote for their leader into separate winner-take-all districts.

Does this mean there is no such thing as democracy?

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@oralloy,

And our system has one leader who is elected nationaly.versus parliamentary systems where the leader is elected by the elected representatives rather than nationalyWhen a voter in Wyoming counts four times as much as a voter in California, yes, the EC is clearly antidemocratic and intentionaly so. that's the problem.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

And our system has one leader who is elected nationaly.versus parliamentary systems where the leader is elected by the elected representatives rather than nationaly

Either way, the vote for the leader is broken up into separate winner-take-all districts.

MontereyJack wrote:

When a voter in Wyoming counts four times as much as a voter in California, yes, the EC is clearly antidemocratic and intentionaly so. that's the problem.

I perceive no problem.

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@MontereyJack,

You preach for exactly what the FF didn't want, a tyrany by the larger populations against the smaller states. You don't think WY should have any say at all, while CA and NY run the country. That is as unConstitutional as one can get, you don't support "democracy", you support fascism.

"Keep quiet little states, us big states are running the show".

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

All the other first world countries divide the vote for their leader into separate winner-take-all districts.

We even don't elect our leader - no matter, if it's the chancellor or the president of Germany - directly.
Same in the UK, although the German and British election law differs significantly - proportional representation here, relative majority (plurality vote) there.

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@Walter Hinteler,

You sound surprised at Oralloy not understanding something. Do you want to explain the Westminster system to him or is life too short?

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@izzythepush,

Explaining the succession to the British throne would be a bit easier.

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@Walter Hinteler,

And even then success is not guaranteed.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

We even don't elect our leader - no matter, if it's the chancellor or the president of Germany - directly.
Same in the UK,

Exactly as I said. Thank you for once again confirming that I am correct.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

You sound surprised at Oralloy not understanding something. Do you want to explain the Westminster system to him or is life too short?

Unlike you, I do not fail to understand things.

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@oralloy,

Go on then, explain how the Westminster system works.

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@izzythepush,

And cue the deafening silence.

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@izzythepush,

Don't be silly.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Go on then, explain how the Westminster system works.

You have individual districts that elect people to a legislative body. A party or coalition of parties forms a majority within this legislative body, and their leader becomes the leader of the UK's government.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

A party or coalition of parties forms a majority within this legislative body, and their leader becomes the leader of the UK's government.

No.
The party that wins the majority forms its own government and appoints a Prime Minister. That's not necessarily the leader of the party.

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@oralloy,

You looked that up, but you still can't give any names like constituency or House of Commons.

The easiest, most logical, way to do it would be to compare it to your own Congress. Instead of having direct elections the speaker has executive powers, but when you're cutting and pasting something you only have a tenuous grip of logic doesn't come into it.

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