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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 09:54 pm
@coldjoint,
You're a moron = Trump. Bigot.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 09:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You're a moron = Trump. Bigot.

Nothing bigoted in disliking illegal activity that cost American lives with a lot more than bullets. Any other opinion is nonsense.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 10:11 pm
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38262107_2255516774684592_8362219153997692928_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=a1dc67e1136a9b16d50356ff240a9558&oe=5BC8D190
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 10:16 pm
@TheCobbler,
Why doesn't he make believe he is one of many cities and just **** on the street?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 05:40 am

https://i.imgur.com/ngoUypZ.jpg
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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 07:29 am
Win by centrist Democrat has GOP bracing for tough Senate fight in Tenn.

Quote:
Republicans braced for a difficult, high-stakes campaign in the heart of Trump country as Tennessee Democrats nominated a popular former governor to run for the state’s open Senate seat.

Phil Bredesen won the Democratic nomination Thursday, giving his party its best chance of a statewide general election victory in more than a decade. He has presented himself as an affable centrist willing to work with President Trump, and his presence on the ballot forces the GOP to play defense on its home turf as the party seeks to preserve a narrow 51-to-49 Senate majority.


That will work in Tennessee but I hope a bill(s) don't come down to the wire and a fellow "willing to work with Trump" ends up hurting the democrat agenda. I can see why this stratergy will work in these red states, I only hope it don't backfire.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 09:07 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Win by centrist Democrat has GOP bracing for tough Senate fight in Tenn.

Quote:
Republicans braced for a difficult, high-stakes campaign in the heart of Trump country as Tennessee Democrats nominated a popular former governor to run for the state’s open Senate seat.

Phil Bredesen won the Democratic nomination Thursday, giving his party its best chance of a statewide general election victory in more than a decade. He has presented himself as an affable centrist willing to work with President Trump, and his presence on the ballot forces the GOP to play defense on its home turf as the party seeks to preserve a narrow 51-to-49 Senate majority.


That will work in Tennessee but I hope a bill(s) don't come down to the wire and a fellow "willing to work with Trump" ends up hurting the democrat agenda. I can see why this stratergy will work in these red states, I only hope it don't backfire.


Well Rev, this person isn't a Democratic Socialist of America member so I would lower your expectations there. Although I think all of the senators have said that they are willing to work with Trump; I wouldn't worry about that comment. Most Americans think Republicans and Democrats working together to solve problems is a good thing.

If we can get 65 "liberal" democrats elected to the Senate then we can afford to have 3-5 more centrist ones. But hell even 51 centrist democrats is better than what we have now.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 09:30 am
@maporsche,
Don't get me wrong; I agree with the strategy of putting up candidates according to conditions on the ground so to speak, it makes sense. It just carries some risk. Say an immigration bill came up, those kinds of votes nearly always come down to partisan votes. If there are hold-outs, democrats could lose the vote if republicans are able to work on those who are more moderate.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:04 am
@cicerone imposter,
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BTW, These Mexicans work on our farms and restaurants to produce our foods and to serve them.

Farms can be serviced by machines in many cases.

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They are a necessary labor force to keep our farms in business to produce our foods, and to serve in the restaurant business where others do not seek work. You won't see many whites working on our farms.
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-farmers-depend-on-illegal-immigrants-100541644/162082.html

This is an excuse to keep Americans on welfare and out of work. If we stopped paying able bodied people to not work, they would find the work that is avaialble. If they don't work and instead commit crimes, then they can work in chain gangs to work for those farmers. They learn a skill and likely for the first times in their lives actually provide something back to society. We coddle the healthy non-working population way to much, if you are hungry you will work.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:08 am
@Baldimo,
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Farms can be serviced by machines in many cases.

That still doesn't eliminate human labor. Packing and processing fruits and vegetables require human labor.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:23 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That still doesn't eliminate human labor. Packing and processing fruits and vegetables require human labor.

It might require human labor, but it requires far less human labor to process and pack in a factory then it does to pick in the fields. If you have a perfectly healthy US citizen who doesn't want to work, then we shouldn't provide them with welfare.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:36 am
@Baldimo,
Those who labor on our farms don't earn enough to pay for shelter and food. The average wage is around $30,000/year.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Those who labor on our farms don't earn enough to pay for shelter and food. The average wage is around $30,000/year.

Sorry, but if you work in the US illegally and take advantage of our social welfare programs, I don't feel bad about how little you make. That $30k a year is mostly tax free as it is paid under the table.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:43 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Say an immigration bill came up, those kinds of votes nearly always come down to partisan votes. If there are hold-outs, democrats could lose the vote if republicans are able to work on those who are more moderate.


All the democrats would have to do is make the bill itself a little more centrist to get the necessary votes from these centrist democrats. I don't know what that would look like for this immigration bill but you know all of the democrats would at the very least support the Dreamers and a path to citizenship. Even this dude most likely.

We passed Obamacare with several centrist democrats and the independent Joe Lieberman. Sure, we didn't get medicare for all or some other items that would have been nice....but we got a pretty damn good healthcare bill passed and it was the biggest and best thing the government has done in my lifetime.

Centrist politicians are frustrating for the people on the far left or far right, but considering that over half the country considers themselves in the center, they are representing a huge population.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 10:47 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
Centrist politicians are frustrating for the people on the far left or far right, but considering that over half the country considers themselves in the center, they are representing a huge population.


True
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 11:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
Farm work is seasonal, and people must find other work when there are no jobs on the farms.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:04 pm
Quote:
President Trump is set to visit Ohio on Saturday as Republicans scramble to hang onto a reliably red seat in a must-win special House election next week, the final one before November's midterms.

Polls show a dead-even race between Republican Troy Balderson and Democrat Danny O’Connor in a district that Trump won by 11 points in 2016. The seat, previously held by retired Rep. Pat Tiberi (R), has been held by Republicans since 1980.

But Democrats smell a win in the special election on Tuesday, one, they believe, will portend a blue wave to come in the November midterms. Democrats need to flip 23 seats, many in suburban districts that resemble Ohio 12th district, to take back the House.

While many Republicans still believe state senator Balderson will eke out a win, they’ve been forced to spend millions defending the seat in a difficult political environment. Polls nationwide have shown Trump’s popularity in only the mid-40s, while voters have expressed a desire for a check on the White House ahead of the midterms.

Trump is now personally stepping into the fray. He will address a rally in the Columbus suburbs on Saturday evening with one primary goal: gin up excitement among the Republican base, where he remains widely popular, and match the strong enthusiasm by Democrats.

Democrats have performed well in special elections this cycle, particularly in states and districts that haven’t gone blue in decades. That has included an Alabama special Senate election late last year where Sen. Doug Jones (D) defeated Republican Roy Moore, who faced allegations that he had pursued romantic and sexual relationships with women decades his junior, including one who was a minor at the time.

More stunningly, Rep. Conor Lamb (D) defeated Republican Rick Saccone in a March special election held in a Pennsylvania district that Trump won by 20 points.

The Pennsylvania race has raised hope among Democrats that O'Connor, the Franklin County recorder, can pull off a similar feat this time around.

Like Lamb in Pennsylvania, O’Connor is directly appealing to more moderate Republicans and has avoided making Trump a target of his campaign. Instead, he has campaigned heavily on preserving Medicare and Social Security and on local issues.


The Hill

ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:16 pm
@revelette1,
Franklin County. That's interesting territory. Set's old stomping grounds and it's where sozobe is active. I'd love to get her take on what's it like there right now.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Farm work is seasonal, and people must find other work when there are no jobs on the farms.

Farm work is seasonal in the Midwest but not on the west coast in CA, where a majority of our fruits and veggies are grown during the winter, what do the farm workers do where there is no harvesting work?
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:31 pm
@Baldimo,
In the winters in the midwest they plow streets, parking lots, and houses.
 

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