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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2017 05:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Believe it or not; white elevators at the 2016 RNC.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rnc-officials-scrambling-to-replace-signs-that-point-to-white-elevators/
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:14 am
@cicerone imposter,
This is the kind of **** people are tired of. Looking for any BS to call out as racism, even something a small as having color coded, per the flag not people, elevators is enough to invoke some sort of "microaggression" and claim racism. You wonder why the DNC has been loosing since 2010? The results of this continued loss? Fascist groups like Antifi, the modern day Brownshirt's! Say what you want, a majority of the violence in the last year has been from Left-wing groups and their disruption of people's lives has only gotten worse. These same assholes who wear black and cover their faces and commit violence are the same little assholes who were part of Occupy Wall Street, when they saw that they lost and no one was buying their BS, they tried again but with masks and violence.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 06:49 am
http://images.dailykos.com/images/392989/story_image/04-23-mcfadden-KOS.png?1493047625
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 01:35 pm
@TheCobbler,
Trump's bigotry and fear mongering will make America weak.
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/02/trumps_bigotry_fearmongering_w.html

Maya Angelou once said, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." For years, Donald Trump showed us that he is a bigot. So why is anyone surprised when his policies match his hateful rhetoric about Muslims, Mexicans, black people and others?

It's good to know that Trump's disapproval rating is at 56%.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:06 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote Oralloy:
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The Left started that fight. If they had not blocked W's nominees out of sheer pettiness, the Republicans would not have retaliated by blocking this Garland character.

This might amaze you, but the history of the university started out as all liberal arts. Time was, every graduate had to learn either Latin or Greek, the classical languages. A university graduate is supposed to be able to function in a variety of fields, at least to an extent. They should be able to represent themselves as an educated, thoughtful person, not as a person who is simply helpless outside of his field of specialization.

An uneducated America is an America that is going to be at a disadvantage when competing against more educated nations. Sorry that you don't see the value of Plato or Dickens for the group of people who will be running the country in 30 years, but previous generations did. Fortunately.
Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:15 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote Baldimo:
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JFK would be ashamed of the modern day DNC.

Unlikely. Remember that JFK's program included Medicare and Medicaid, and conservatives were opposed. The idea that the Right is pushing about how JFK would be a Republican if he were alive today is hilarious.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:34 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote Baldimo:
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Say what you want, a majority of the violence in the last year has been from Left-wing groups and their disruption of people's lives has only gotten worse.

Reality flash: It isn't leftists beating the crap out of this guy for saying Black Lives Matter at the Trump rally.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2017 11:59 am
@Blickers,
Some people remain blind and uninformed about the realities. It's their problem.
http://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2017 05:47 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
This might amaze you, but the history of the university started out as all liberal arts. Time was, every graduate had to learn either Latin or Greek, the classical languages. A university graduate is supposed to be able to function in a variety of fields, at least to an extent. They should be able to represent themselves as an educated, thoughtful person, not as a person who is simply helpless outside of his field of specialization.

An uneducated America is an America that is going to be at a disadvantage when competing against more educated nations. Sorry that you don't see the value of Plato or Dickens for the group of people who will be running the country in 30 years, but previous generations did. Fortunately.

Huh? Confused

Did you respond to the wrong post? I wasn't complaining about education.
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2017 09:20 pm
@oralloy,
I did in fact blunder and respond to the wrong post. Or I was posting about one thing one poster said while thinking of what another poster said. Or something.

That's what I get for posting past midnight. Sorry about that.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 10:41 am
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Why did Trump win? New research by Democrats offers a worrisome answer

As the Democratic Party rebuilds itself for the 2018 and 2020 elections, Democratic strategists have been preoccupied with a pressing question: Why did so many voters who backed Barack Obama in 2012 switch to Donald Trump four years later, and what can be done to win them back?

Top Democratic pollsters have conducted private focus groups and polling in an effort to answer that question, and they shared the results with me.
One finding from the polling stands out: A shockingly large percentage of these Obama-Trump voters said Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy — twice the percentage that said the same about Trump. I was also permitted to view video of some focus group activity, which showed Obama-Trump voters offering sharp criticism of Democrats on the economy.

Priorities USA, the super PAC that is working to restore Democrats to power, conducted focus groups of Obama-Trump voters in Wisconsin and Michigan — two states that Trump snatched from Democrats — in late January and polled some 800 Obama-Trump voters nationally at around the same time. The pollsters also conducted focus groups with so-called drop-off voters — people who voted for Obama in 2012 but didn’t vote in 2016 — in the same states and polled 800 drop-off voters nationally.

“[Hillary] Clinton and Democrats’ economic message did not break through to drop-off or Obama-Trump voters, even though drop-off voters are decidedly anti-Trump,” Priorities USA concluded in a presentation of its polling data and focus group findings, which has been shown to party officials in recent days.

The poll found that Obama-Trump voters, many of whom are working-class whites and were pivotal to Trump’s victory, are economically losing ground and are skeptical of Democratic solutions to their problems. Among the findings.

50 percent of Obama-Trump voters said their incomes are falling behind the cost of living, and another 31 percent said their incomes are merely keeping pace with the cost of living.

A sizable chunk of Obama-Trump voters — 30 percent — said their vote for Trump was more a vote against Clinton than a vote for Trump. Remember, these voters backed Obama four years earlier.

42 percent of Obama-Trump voters said congressional Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy, vs. only 21 percent of them who said the same about Trump. (Forty percent say that about congressional Republicans.) A total of 77 percent of Obama-Trump voters said Trump’s policies will favor some mix of all other classes (middle class, poor, all equally), while a total of 58 percent said that about congressional Democrats.

“If you felt like your life wasn’t getting better over eight years, then you might draw a conclusion that Democrats don’t care about you,” Guy Cecil, chairman of Priorities USA, told me in an interview. “Certainly a subset of these voters were responsive to what Trump was selling them on immigration. But you had a lot of consistency with the Obama-Trump voters … in terms of the severe economic anxiety they face.”

A similar dynamic was in place with the drop-off voters. Priorities USA’s polling found that 43 percent of them said their income is falling behind the cost of living, and another 49 percent said incomes were merely keeping pace. “There’s a lot of commonality between these drop-off voters and the Obama-Trump voters,” Cecil said.


More at the source

I hope Bernie Sanders in the mid-terms and the next election helps all democrats with the same enthusiasm as his 2016 race. I also hope there are more enthusiastic young democrat leaders with new ideas to include the poor white and the poor minorities the same. Then perhaps we might have a chance of picking up some seats which would slow down some of Trump's policies, unless of course, we are further stymied with voting restrictions...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 12:32 pm
@revelette1,
Why did Trump win? It's because most Americans were taken in by the con who was supposedly a successful businessman. They didn't understand how ignorant he really was on most issues important in politics.
His disapproval rating at 56% I believe is still too high, even though his mid-thirties base will stick with him come hell or high water.
He was not a successful businessman. He was a con who gypped many people. More importantly, he's a racial bigot.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 12:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I agree to the extent your statements are true. However running on a negative (anti-trump) didn't help Hillary keep her support. Comey's announcements didn't help matters either. However, if she had a solid enough campaign, she could have withstood it all.

Democrats have to regroup and make changes. At the same time, we don't need to divide our party which whittles down our power to overtake the republicans. We need to incorporate the ideas Sanders and others like minded had in 2016 into the democrat party many of which I agreed with. The supporters just turned me off.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 03:20 pm
@revelette1,
I don't think the democratic party needs to regroup and make changes. The biggest problem is that qualified democrats aren't running for national office.
Hillary lost too much trust with too many people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/podcasts/hillary-clinton-trust.html?_r=0
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 03:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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I don't think the democratic party needs to regroup and make changes.

Keep telling yourself that. If you are only looking at the last election, then you ignore every election since 2010, sure Obama won the Presidency in 2014, but that was the only election the DNC won. If they don't step away from the far left, then they are not going to win very many elections, their slow slide to socialism isn't winning elections, it might energize the extreme left and the Bernie Bros/Bras but it isn't going to win you the seats you need to control Congress. It is all going to play out in 2018 and we will see what happens then but if you double down on the current trend it won't go very far.

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The biggest problem is that qualified democrats aren't running for national office. Hillary lost too much trust with too many people.

You named the problem in 2nd sentence, Hillary Clinton. She was a horrible candidate and a majority of the people who were running for the GOP could have beaten her. The biggest problem was the DNC establishment ran this as Hillary's turn, it was her turn and that was why there was such a weak field of 4 during the DNC primaries, where the GOP had 17 and the Libertarians had 3 in their primaries. Can you believe the DNC could only muster 1 more person than the small Libertarian party? Unless Hillary runs again in 2020, you can bet the DNC will have more than 4 candidates and you will see them tear each other apart just as badly as the GOP has/will for the next Primaries. I honestly think the GOP will force Trump to run in the Primaries for 2020 election, this is if he decides to run for reelection.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2017 05:14 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Keep telling yourself that. If you are only looking at the last election, then you ignore every election since 2010, sure Obama won the Presidency in 2014, but that was the only election the DNC won. If they don't step away from the far left, then they are not going to win very many elections, their slow slide to socialism isn't winning elections, it might energize the extreme left and the Bernie Bros/Bras but it isn't going to win you the seats you need to control Congress. It is all going to play out in 2018 and we will see what happens then but if you double down on the current trend it won't go very far.

For the next 20 years the Democrats are going to turn to the extreme Left, and the voters are going to keep putting Republicans in charge of the country.

One day in the distant future the Democrats will finally get their act together and purge their party of liberalism, and upon doing so they will start to win elections again. But it will many years before that day comes.
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2017 06:01 am
@Baldimo,
I agree it was more than just Hillary losing which does indicate a change is in order. However, I disagree that the party has been going too far left. Sanders was very popular and his ideas resonated with a broad spectrum of folks. I think the dems need to farther left and ignore advise such as yours.

Another race to watch is the special congressional election in South Carolina to see how the trends goes. If the democrats can manage in the conservative district to get in the runoff, it will be a win for democrats, or even close will be a good indicator.

Trump on the Line in Special Election You Might Not Know About

I just hope he is running on something other than anti-trump.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2017 07:09 am
Kentucky governor has new plan to cut Medicaid recipients' benefits, control their lives
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/1/1657248/-Kentucky-governor-has-new-plan-to-cut-Medicaid-recipients-benefits-control-their-lives
revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2017 08:08 am
@TheCobbler,
We in KY deserve this pathetic governor for staying home at mid-terms when he was elected. There are an awful lot of folks in KY on Medicaid, he starts messing with it, he can be recalled.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2017 09:07 am
@oralloy,
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For the next 20 years the Democrats are going to turn to the extreme Left, and the voters are going to keep putting Republicans in charge of the country.

I think you are being just a tad bit optimistic, the GOP can **** this up with no help from the DNC at all. Not to mention, the liberal hold on the media and Hollywood are still very strong and a majority of people are sheeple, this goes for both wings of the bird...

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One day in the distant future the Democrats will finally get their act together and purge their party of liberalism, and upon doing so they will start to win elections again. But it will many years before that day comes.

They will never purge their party of such people, they have been there since the 60's and the schools are always going to be a place where their ideals get taught/encouraged. Look at the state of some of these college campuses and what is going on there with the "safe-spaces" and other such nonsense that does not and should not exist in the real world.
 

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