@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:Yes they are. I looked up this
list of University hospitals, went to the section for the US, and took the first selection of the first 8 states. Going by website or phone call, here are the answers to the question of whether they accept patients with Medicaid.
1. Providence Alaska Medical Center.
Yes.
2. Univ or Alabama Hospital, Birmingham.
Yes
3. Banner University Medical Care Center Phoenix.
Yes.
4. University of Colorado Hospital- University of Colorado School of Medicine.
Yes.
5. St. Vincent's (CT) Medical Center.
Yes.
7. George Washington University Medical Center, (DC).
Yes.
8. U of Florida Medical Center, Jacksonville.
Yes.
All eight of the university medical school affiliated hospitals accepted Medicaid. And just for added emphasis, I looked up these two revered institutions that people from overseas fly over to the US to get treated at:
Memorial Sloan Kettering:
Yes
Mayo Clinic:
Yes.
So virtually all University hospitals accept their state's Medicaid as payment. The world famous Mayo Cinic in Rochester, MN even accepts Medicaid from neighboring North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin as well.
The question is not whether a given hospital is willing to accept Medicaid.
The question is whether a given hospital is "within the network" of Medicaid HMOs.
It doesn't matter how willing a given hospital is to accept Medicaid, if the Medicaid HMO does not include that hospital within their network.
Blickers wrote:1. On Medicaid you are quite capable of getting treatment for a difficult problem, the whole hospital as at your disposal and you can always go to University Hospitals affiliated with Medical Schools, who have a whole staff of prominent people in the field.
You can't go to a university hospital if that hospital is not in your HMO's network.
Blickers wrote:2. "Unnecessary side effects" is a figment of your imagination,
Not at all. People on Medicaid really are given medicine that has unpleasant side effects even when there are cheap generics available that have no side effects.
Blickers wrote:although you will continue to say it as if it was fact.
I'm a big fan of facts.
Blickers wrote:You have offered no proof whatsoever.
I'm aware of a case where it has happened.
Blickers wrote:3. Medicaid doesn't pay for deluxe cosmetics, but they offer the standard cosmetics that many private plans allow.
That is incorrect. Medicaid will not cover standard cheap cosmetics. People on Medicaid have to make do with cosmetics from the 1800s.
Blickers wrote:Similarly, they don't offer the deluxe wheelchair with GPS, they pay for the standard wheelchair. As usual, in an effort to take away people's Medicaid and substitute nothing, you are trying to pass off the idea that no cosmetics go with appropriate operations, so when you throw 5 Million people off Medicaid and eliminate their access to health care, it won't seem so horrible.
I'm not proposing "no substitution". I propose that people be given enough of a tax credit so that they can afford to buy real health care.
Blickers wrote:4. Loss of inheritance: Only applies to people getting Medicaid who are over 55.
That's fine if all the poor people die by age 55.
But sometimes poor people live to age 56 and beyond.
Maybe Medicaid will start compelling the poor to commit suicide at age 55 just so their children can keep their inheritance.
Blickers wrote:Says the man who champions the Trumpcare bill which will take away the healthcare of 5 Million people who now have Medicaid and won't be able to afford Trumpcare, even with the tax credits. You can't talk about the need to treat rare diseases when you want to take away 5 Million people's ability to get professionally treated for any disease at all.
If the tax credits are increased enough, they will be able to afford to buy real health insurance.
Blickers wrote:That's the problem. The tax credits from Trumpcare won't even come close to enabling Medicaid recipients who presently earn between $9K and $18K annually to buy insurance from the exchanges. Instead, Trumpcare will simply throw them off Medicaid with no substitute plan that they can afford.
Increase the tax credits until they are big enough.
Blickers wrote:And oh yes, Medicaid has no co-payment. Trumpcare will,
A holdover from Obamacare. Before Obamacare I was able to buy insurance with an out of pocket maximum of only $250 a year. Now I have to pick a plan with a roughly $5,000 per year out of pocket maximum.
Blickers wrote:That's nonsense. The poor get the treatment they need, starting with General Practitioners, moving up to specialists, and then, if necessary, a University teaching hospital. And medications are free with no copay, since people making under $18K yearly cannot afford them.
The poor get substandard cosmetics, unnecessary side effects, their children lose their inheritance (unless people commit suicide by age 55), and it remains to be seen whether these advanced hospitals are within most Medicaid networks.
Blickers wrote:The bill as written does not supply anwhere near the necessary amount of help, the money from the tax credit won't go near the amount of the premiums. As it was written, a 63 year old man making $18,000 yearly would have to pay $25,000 yearly in Trumpcare premiums. Ryan said they adjusted that, but how much adjusting could they do and still call it the same bill? And if this Trumpcare bill passes, come Jan 1 those working poor making between $9K and $18K annually are off Medicare and not able to afford Trumpcare premiums, even with the tax credits.
So increase the tax credits until they are large enough to let people afford real insurance.
Blickers wrote:Believe it or not, this is not the only thing wrong with Trumpcare, but this is enough to render the bill a disaster for the working poor.
Medicaid is already a disaster for the working poor.