Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

@izzythepush,

My favorite just for the old fashioned words, it appeals to me for some reason, kind of like poetry but not quite, just the way it appeals to me.

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@revelette3,

It sounds a bit more authoritative than the others.

There’s one of those weird factoids that claims Shakespeare was one of the main translators.

If you look at psalm 46 and count 46 words in you get shake. Count 46 from the end and you get spear.

I’m not saying it means anything, it’s a nice little exercise you can do.

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@izzythepush,

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There’s one of those weird factoids that claims Shakespeare was one of the main translators.

Interesting. I confess I never really read Shakespeare. I had to take it in the ninth grade, pretty sure it was Romeo and Juliet. Other than that, never bothered with it. My biggest "literature" was 'Gone With The Wind" in my high school years, read it voluntarily. Got extremely mad at the end when Rett Butler said, "frankly my dear..." I was completely unaware of any prejudicial tones, wasn't really up on that during that time. I was a complete introvert. Grew up with the Bible on the other hand and it managed to grab my attention.

After that long winded side note so to speak, what I was getting at was not sure it would do me good to read those passages to compare with Shakespeare. Perhaps I should try to read Shakespeare. lol.

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@revelette3,

I love Shakespeare, got hooked on him when I was a kid. As far as I concerned his stuff was like nursery rhymes.

The reason Shakespeare is so good is because he writes about people and people don’t change.

You shouldn’t read Shakespeare, you should watch him. Shakespeare wrote plays, not novels.

A good play to start with is The Tempest, that’s about a shipwreck with wizards and monsters, lots of fun.

I would like to recommend the version of Twelfth Night with Helena Bonham Carter. It’s a fun comedy involving mixed up twins with some really good comic talents. Mel Smith is really funny.

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@izzythepush,

Thanks I'll try to look up some places to stream the plays if I can remember them when I get around to it. Perhaps you can PM me the names again? Just when you think of it.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I love Shakespeare, got hooked on him when I was a kid. As far as I concerned his stuff was like nursery rhymes.

The reason Shakespeare is so good is because he writes about people and people don’t change.

You shouldn’t read Shakespeare, you should watch him. Shakespeare wrote plays, not novels.

A good play to start with is The Tempest, that’s about a shipwreck with wizards and monsters, lots of fun.

I would like to recommend the version of Twelfth Night with Helena Bonham Carter. It’s a fun comedy involving mixed up twins with some really good comic talents. Mel Smith is really funny.

They had a great Shakespeare company in Lincoln. I got to see several of his plays there. Lucky me!

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@Frank Apisa,

There’s lots of footage of various companies performing at the Theatre. Before the lockdown I saw Measure for Measure and Richard III live-streamed at the cinema.

They may not be live-streamed any more but the recordings are still out there.

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‘Double Down’: Swing-District Democrats Embrace Biden Agenda
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/double-down-swing-district-democrats-embrace-biden-agenda_n_605bfa8cc5b65d1c28126a7e

Excerpt:
It’s the hope of Ryan and other Democrats that many of those voters are members of the working class. While Democrats made gains with college-educated voters during the Trump era sufficient to gain total control of the federal government, Republicans’ continued gains among voters without higher education.

Comment:
GOP = Party of uneducated people.

And they want Trump to come back and put more immigrant kids in jail rather than fix the root problems of immigration.

Governing by creating fear as a deterrent rather than finding "ethical" solutions. Educated people find solutions.

Oralloy is still fixated on Dr. Seuss...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Snuffy31.jpg/220px-Snuffy31.jpg

He didn't have to read Seuss, just look at the pictures...

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@izzythepush,

I have heard that before, it is probably true, Shakespeare may have had his hand in the translation.

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@TheCobbler,

I wouldn’t want to say either way, but it’s an interesting little exercise.

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@izzythepush,

It seems the modern biblical research community strongly reputes that Shakespeare had any hand in the translation of the Bible.

They say the theater and the clerics were at odds.

But who was Shakespeare? No one really knows for sure. Was he a cleric who got all his smarts reading old literature only to venture out under a pseudonym moonlighting as a playwright? Is is quite possible though not generally postulated.

It is quite possible that Shakespeare dropped his plays off at the theater drop box late at night in order to remain anonymous.

It does seem that the entire collected writings are a coherent body penned by probably the same person or persons.

I like to believe that he was who we think he was but there is a lot of mystery surrounding his identity and how he came to create such loft. Smile

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@TheCobbler,

During the reign of Elizabeth I Shakespeare’s company was called the Lord Chamberlain’s Men, this was because they were patronised by the Lord Chamberlain.

When Elizabeth died and James I became king they stopped being the Lord Chamberlain’s Men and instead became the King’s Men.

So Shakespeare was definitely in with James. Macbeth was written specifically for the King who had his own problems with witches and had even written a book on the subject. James was a direct descendent of Banquo, and in the play Macbeth asks the witches about his progeny as the witches had prophesied that Banquo would not become king but he would father kings.

When Macbeth asks the witches he is shown a long list of kings and some scholars believe a mirror would have been used to show James’ I reflection.

So yes, Shakespeare was on very good terms with James, and James commissioned that English translation of the Bible, so it is not at all inconceivable that Shakespeare had a hand in it.

However, nothing is proven either way.

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I had to scroll up to remember the subject of the thread.

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@snood,

the R's are doing a great job of turning the ballot box against themselves... they don't seem to need our help Exclamation

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@Region Philbis,

I hear you. And may they continue to spiral downward.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

A King James Version, one with all those difficult old fashioned words that flummox the simple minded.

You have that exactly backwards. It's the simple minded people who favor the King James version.

Knowledgeable and informed people find the translation appalling.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

Back in the day, David Letterman had a bit called "Stupid Human Tricks."

Letterman's sadistic jokes about Amanda Knox were truly appalling. It is good that he is now off the air.

Hopefully he'll never be on the air again.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Knowledgeable and informed people find the translation appalling.

I'm sure that anyone with just a bit education and an IQ higher tha 60 knows that the KJV was written several hundred years before the advent of modern translation theory, linguistics, and, in general, science.

However, the KJV translation is of enormous value historically, politically, sentimentally, and perhaps in some other ways.

Heinrich Bunting’s famous 16th-century “clover-leaf map” isn't accurate either

But it's a great source for knowledgeable and informed people as well.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'm sure that anyone with just a bit education and an IQ higher tha 60 knows that the KJV was written several hundred years before the advent of modern translation theory, linguistics, and, in general, science.

Yes.

That's why it sucks so bad compared to a properly-done modern translation.

EDIT: Is it "so bad" or "so badly"? I guess my point was clear either way though.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

However, the KJV translation is of enormous value historically, politically, sentimentally, and perhaps in some other ways.

The dark ages are over. How does it provide value to people today?

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Heinrich Bunting’s famous 16th-century “clover-leaf map” isn't accurate either

But it's a great source for knowledgeable and informed people as well.

I wouldn't advise using that map for navigational purposes.

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