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Where in the world is Osama Santiago??

 
 
Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2004 06:46 pm
1,000 days since Sept 11. And bin Laden is still free.

Does any of the Coalition nations actually think he's a threat any more? Christ, they could find Saddam by himself in a hole in the ground. And Osama has a private army and must use some sort of communications system.

Thoughts? Conspiracy theories? Speculation?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2004 06:47 pm
I think he's dead. I think the U.S. killed him months ago, and they are faking videotapes and sending them to Al-Jazeera in order to keep the rest of the world "focused" on the big bad evil Al-Quaeda dude.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2004 07:53 pm
As part of my May paperback order, Amazon sent me Mike Resnick's
Return of Santiago: A Myth of the Far Future. If enlightenment manifests, I will report.
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Radikal
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2004 08:43 pm
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Osama was a CIA asset. He is prolly lounging at the w pig ranch. Rolling Eyes If the W #s are lookin' real bad another Vid. will come out and a code red will be declared.

btw The Kurds found Saddan. I read that the US refused to give them the $30 Mill bounty but in exchange for promised them some undisclosed political favor. Seems the BushCo welched on that because the Kurds have declared that they will take some action unless their territory is declared autonimous.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2004 07:44 am
Osama has been working at the Dunkin Donuts in Sommerville, MA for the past couple of years. Last time I was in there he was very rude to me and threatened to kill my family if I didn't purchase a "Coolata". Naturally, I bought two.
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thehamster
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2004 08:31 am
NickFun, nice excuse for a bad diet Wink

Now on to the topic:
IMO Osi is either dead or in American custody already.
Just as kickykan said the US needs to keep up the threat by Osama in order to keep their grip around the American people and people of other nations, such as...say Poland and Britain for example.

By the way, how this tactics of maintaining the power-monopoly by keeping up the fear or some kind of war works can be read in the book "1984" by George Orwell...hope you guys enjoy your lecture.
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2004 09:14 am
There could also just be the possibility Osama bin Laden is still hiding in Central-Asia....

But that's just my opinion, probably far from reality.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2004 05:19 pm
In yesterday's briefing by the A-G (transcript June 8 Briefing this is all John Ashcroft had to say about Osama:

Quote:
We know from Spain's bitter experience that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaida believe they advanced their extremist cause with the Madrid train bombings that brought the death of nearly 200 people and the injury of about 1,600 more.


Rumsfeld prefers to state the obvious:

Quote:
until he's caught, he's not caught


and (mystifyingly)

Quote:
The only way we ever found him is finally somebody put enough pressure on enough people to find out that somebody had an idea where somebody might know somebody who might know somebody who would know where he might have been," he said, according to the American Forces Press Service.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jun, 2004 07:15 pm
Quote:
Karzai and U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in an outdoor news conference at the spot where a hijacked plane slammed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, both also expressed confidence that Osama bin Laden, whose al Qaeda network was blamed for the attack, will be captured, but did not guess when.

The United States has roughly doubled its troop total in the country this year amid an intensified effort to track down al Qaeda and Taliban fugitives including bin Laden. U.S.-led forces in 2001 toppled the Taliban regime, which had harboured al Qaeda.

"All nations, yours and ours, have had fugitives in our histories. And has a fugitive run forever? No, at least not in my country," said Karzai, referring to bin Laden. "So he's a fugitive right now. He's hiding somewhere. And he's on the run. And we're after him. We'll catch him one day, sooner or later."

FTimes
BS Translator = "When it's convenient. Or when the money stops rolling in".
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JustanObserver
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2004 08:13 am
He's chillin' with Waldo. But don't worry. Bush swore he would do anything and everything to catch him "dead or alive".


We probably know his general location, keeping an eye out to make sure he doesn't leave, then a little closer to election time, we'll have a hyped raid operation that either captures or kills him.

Boom pow bang... Bush wins.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2004 06:14 pm
Quote:
The search for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has gone cold and there is no indication of his whereabouts, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf told the Washington Post in an interview published on Sunday.
Musharraf said Pakistani forces were still aggressively pursuing bin Laden but that recent security operations and interrogation had determined only that he was still alive.

"He is alive, but more than that, where he is, no, it'll be just a guess and it won't have much basis," Musharraf was quoted as saying in the interview.

Pressed about whether bin Laden's trail had gone cold, Musharraf told the Post: "Yes, if you mean we don't know, from that point of view, we don't know where he is."
source
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2004 06:15 pm
Greetings from Crawford, TX?
http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/w148/amdf72.jpg
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:05 pm
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that noone seems to care that we haven't caught OBL, or disrupted AQ in any meaningful way....

Talk about taking your eye off of the ball!

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:11 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that noone seems to care that we haven't caught OBL, or disrupted AQ in any meaningful way....

Talk about taking your eye off of the ball!

Cycloptichorn


You mean that the media no longer cares, right?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:15 pm
The media is the middleman for those who DO care,

Who in this case should be both the Gov't AND the people.... neither of which are asking questions about why we haven't caught OBL yet. The gov't is close-mouthed for obvious reasons (incompetency in prosecuting the war on terror) and the people are silent for equally obvious reasons (they don't want to think about this threat which is basically going unchecked by the people they elected).

And, to a certain extent, the media sets the agenda for discussion in both of those groups; and they certainly aren't driving it.

Ask yourself how a man can go from public enemy #1 to NEVER being discussed by our top leaders in just a few years....

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:22 pm
Funny, I just read all about the current man-hunt for Osama yesterday. I am sure that if you asked all those people scouring the countryside in Afghanistan and Pakistan if they thought they had forgotten Osama, they'd probably all look at you as though you were crazy.

We also have people orbitting the Earth in a space station, don't hear about that every day. We have probes doing miraculous things on Mars and we don't hear about that every day. We have homeless people and women and children being raped and abused, drug use is out of control, Castro could be near death, genocide in Africa, etc., etc., yet we do not hear of these things every day...

It's because of the media, not because people do not care. Plenty of people care and plenty of people do their own research on what they care about.

You have used an absolute term... "NEVER"... What do you suppose Bush and Musharraf were discussing? Pottery?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:26 pm
So how do ya think Bush took the news from Musharraf that OBL is nowhere to be found? Or Musharraf making that information public?

Given that there is, in theory, a war on terror being waged by the U.S., one would expect some interest in taking OBL down.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:32 pm
Osama will find his Judas, we just have to be patient until that happens...
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:46 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Osama will find his Judas, we just have to be patient until that happens...


Let's hope, then, that he doesn't gain the stature of Jesus.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2004 02:54 pm
Waziristan is still the best guess. Musharraf has had the Pakistani army
searching there, but the tribal leaders of that area are still pretty much a
law unto themselves. If they are colluding to hide bin Laden and if they
are being tipped off about raids (both big ifs, I know), then it may be a
while before he is found.
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