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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 3 Jan, 2015 09:27 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

firefly wrote:

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I know that the feminists desire to disrupt my sex life...

Because the voices in your head tell you that? Do these alleged "feminists" hide under your bed? In your bedroom closets? Can you even name them?


Speaking for myself, I'd quite like to blast Hawkeye out of bed with a firehose, across the room and out of the window. Catching him coitus interruption would be a bonus, but would probably require some tricky angling to get enough lift. (Lift may well be a problem, we might need a bigger hose.) Although his face as he disappears through the window would be reward enough.


Firefly at least has some leg to stand on re ignorance of current efforts by the feminist/state cooperative to ratchet down the undesired by them BDSM activity. You living under british rule and seeing these efforts first hand becoming extreme on the other hand do not. Only the Australians are worse than you.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 02:44 am
@hawkeye10,
You're so pathetic, constantly trying to portray yourself as a victim. Only other idiots believe to nonsense you spout.

I just find the image of you being blasted out of bed quite amusing, and a lot better than the repulsive images of you porking the Empress Of Blandings amongst others.

You have nothing of value to say so you try to shock people, which is why you claim to be a Socialist. You're not a Socialist, you don't even understand what Socialism is, it's just part of some rather insipid persona of yours.

You're not Lord Byron, you're a sad wee lad who's an embarrassment to know. (Apologies to Lady Caroline Lamb.)
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nononono
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 05:02 am
@firefly,
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Feminism was considered pretty much defunct until a few years ago


How full of **** are you firefly??? "Feminism was considered defunct until a few years ago"??? REALLY???

You better tell that to all the men who have been raped in family courts, and all the men who have been prosecuted via feminist dictated laws for crimes they didn't commit. Feminism has always been around. What feminism is, is gynocentrism weaponized.

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And beyond Tweets, and a few internet columnists, you don't hear much from feminists now, at all, and this great influence you believe they exert on government doesn't in actuality exist-


This statement is such bullshit that I'm not even sure if you're being serious.

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And there is no longer a well-organized feminist movement, with strong leaders, and a cushion of money,



BULLSHIT! Feminism is a BILLION dollar propaganda industry that dictates lawmaking and social institutions such as education.

And for someone who quote unquote "Isn't a feminist", you sure seem to care a WHOLE lot about feminism!
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nononono
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 05:13 am
@BillRM,
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Hawkeye I guess all the women who also have major rape fantasies are also are sick **** by the lights of bobsal.


I have no idea what you're talking about Bill. Women don't have rape fantasies...

nononono
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 05:27 am
So I tried to read through all the crazy horshit posted by firefly and bobsballs the past few pages, and I just couldn't do it...


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120420153255/glee/images/7/72/Gone_crazy.gif
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 05:36 am
@nononono,
Stick to The Cat In The Hat, you might just be able to read that all by yourself.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 05:38 am
@nononono,
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So I tried to read through all the crazy horshit posted by firefly and bobsballs the past few pages, and I just couldn't do it...


I have blocked both of the above posters, so I do not run into such a problem.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 08:16 am
@nononono,
Fantasies are OK. Acting on them and advocating for the violence contained them is sick.

But at least finally the conversation has gotten honest. Its not about the figures and statistic, its you believing rape is OK and the secret not fantasy but desire to be BDSMthat you project onto everybody else you view as prey. You're looking for permission.

You and your fellow deviants will get into trouble because you feel somehow empowered by your ability says crap here you'd never get away with anywhere else besides dark dank dirty place you sick fucks hold your secret revels.

I'm not worried. Not a doubt in my life: you, manga boy and the kitty pedlar will go too far. You DO know that all the round ups of pedophiles and perverts online all came out of NSA intercepts, don't you? The Feds will be rolling up on you three freaks one day and it'll be the laugh of the season here on A2K.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 08:18 am
@nononono,
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So I tried to read through all the crazy horshit posted by firefly and bobsballs the past few pages, and I just couldn't do it...


Of course to be fair your lack of reading comprehension had the most to do with that. Stop "reading" manga, pervert.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2015 08:19 am
@BillRM,
LIAR! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You read EVERY SINGLE WORD we post! ******* mope!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2015 02:38 am
Serious proposal from an respected academic, who claims to want to save men by rewiring us

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Kimmel believes that the most effective approaches will subtly change the power dynamics around sex. For instance, he thinks that colleges might try allowing only sororities - not fraternities- to hold alcohol-fueled soirees. "That would mean that there would be women at the door, and they would decide if you were "gentlemanly" enough anf trustworthy enough to come into the party"

page 20 Atlantic

Michael Scott Kimmel (born February 26, 1951)[1] is an American sociologist, specializing in gender studies. He holds the position of Distinguished Professor of Sociology at the Stony Brook University in New York and is the founder and editor of the academic journal Men and Masculinities.[2] Kimmel is a spokesperson of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism (NOMAS)[3] and a longtime feminist.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kimmel

Typical feminist message making that MEN SUCK! BEAT ON MEN, EXCLUDE MEN, THEY MUST DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE MEN!
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2015 02:59 am
@hawkeye10,
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Typical feminist message making that MEN SUCK! BEAT ON MEN, EXCLUDE MEN, THEY MUST DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE MEN!

Where does Professor Kimmel say that?

Or are the voices in your head telling you that?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2015 07:25 am
@firefly,
That his cries from his dungeon beatings.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2015 08:56 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

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Typical feminist message making that MEN SUCK! BEAT ON MEN, EXCLUDE MEN, THEY MUST DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE MEN!

Where does Professor Kimmel say that?




When he says that men do not deserve equality.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2015 09:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
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When he says that men do not deserve equality.

He doesn't say that in the excerpt you cited from an Atlantic article--an article you neglected to post a link to.

I doubt that he says anywhere that, " MEN SUCK! BEAT ON MEN, EXCLUDE MEN, THEY MUST DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE MEN!"

You're the only one continually broadcasting that message, Chicken Little. Your paranoid hysteria knows no bounds.

What has any of this got to do with the topic of women being raped?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2015 01:38 am
@firefly,
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What has any of this got to do with the topic of women being raped?

the people writing sex law are unjust so we should refuse to follow their demands, they do not represent our values.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2015 02:38 am
@hawkeye10,
You don't represent the values of anyone except a bunch of pathetic losers. We really shouldn't be deferring to the lowest common denominator, and set our sights a bit higher.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2015 08:17 am
@izzythepush,
Hey hawkey, nononono, BillRM - all you little 4Chan twerps: Take heed!!!



Your attitude about rape will get you jammed up and how.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2015 02:47 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Because increasingly the "wrong" thoughts make the crime, not violating other people.

We are only a few shades shy of the Nazi approach to trying to build the perfect human.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2015 03:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
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the people writing sex law are unjust so we should refuse to follow their demands, they do not represent our values

The people writing "sex law" are our legislators--our duly elected representatives--and the laws reflect the dominant values of the electorate at any given time.

If they represented your values regarding sex, we'd be back in the Stone Age.

http://www.eeveelife.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/07/Cave-man-dragging-woman.jpg

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my wife says such things as " sometime I want you to come to the living room where I am, grab me by my hair and drag me back to the bedroom, and use me. AND DONT ASK ME, just make me do it. And if I dont service you well then whip me"


The "sex laws"/sexual assault laws pertain to only actual physical sexual contacts. Dragging someone by the hair, whipping them, slamming them against a wall and pulling down their panties, tying them up and gagging them, intentionally inflicting pain on them, etc., are not sexual contacts--they are acts of violence which would be covered by assault and battery laws.
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On the other hand ravishing a woman, for instance throwing her against a wall, pulling down her panties, and taking what we want.....is very very right. Many men and even more women want this, need this. "No means no"consent parameters can be made to work to allow couples to play with power in this way, but "only yes means yes" does not....the taking of the female by the male is the entire point of the game

Because you may need these acts to become sexually aroused, or to satisfy your psychological needs for sexual power/dominance, does not change the fact that these are not acts of physical sexual contact, and not really covered by sexual assault laws except as forms of coercion to get another person to acquiesce to sexual contacts. To say that, "Many men and even more women want this, need this," does not mean such BDSM activities should be necessarily condoned--many people want and need sexual contacts with children and animals as well--the laws define the boundary lines of what is acceptable in a society. As long as your personal needs for power involve the "taking of the female" you'll be dancing on the edge of those boundary lines, and the laws are not going to bend to accommodate your particular brand of kinkiness or what you need to feel "manly". Engaging in mutually consensual role-playing fantasies is not criminal, unless actual acts violate existing laws. And the issue of consent, not for sexual contact, but for the sadomasochistic infliction of pain and physical injury, is really the most problematic issue with BDSM.

Once you talk about just "taking what I want"--irrespective of what the other person wants--you are talking about rape. Why is it any less rape if you slam your wife against a wall and just "take what I want" than if a stranger entered your home and did the same thing to your wife? Do you assume that your wife is always consenting to anything you want to do to her? Is she that much of a doormat/submissive that she has no will of her own, that there are no times when she's not feeling well, or in the mood for your power games?
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I certainly dont believe in taking a woman sexually who does not want to be taken, I dont condone rape, but I have no interest in the feminist demand that I ask permission to throw my woman against the wall before I lay a hand on her.

So, your wife has to endure being slammed against a wall, before she even has an opportunity to say no, because she's "my woman" and you consequently feel you have the right to treat her as property rather than as a person? And, if you had to ask her permission beforehand, for things you want to do to her, it would make you feel unmanly, it would deflate your sense of power? Awww...poor baby.

It's hardly only "feminists" who feel that females are entitled to equal status in their intimate sexual encounters--fully entitled to draw boundaries about what they want, and don't want, in the way of sexual contacts at any given time, whether it's with a marital partner or with someone else. Our legislators have now codified that basic right in our laws.

Stop whining and whimpering because you see your sense of sexual power and control--your particular brand of "masculinity"-- being eroded by the laws that empower women or male partners to equally exert their will. It's the entire notion of equality that threatens you--you don't want equality, you want sexual power and dominance over females..

http://www.eeveelife.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/07/Cave-man-dragging-woman.jpg

That's how rapists think too...




 

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