1 in 5 women get raped?

We now know you did not rob that store but we are sure you are thinking of robbing other stores in the near future so your punishment stand.

Taking someone's life in an act of murder, and depriving them of their future, I definitely see as the most egregious act of all--it's the complete obliteration of an irreplaceable life.

Hawkeye and Bill seem to be more concerned with calling bullshit on women as if they are lying. Maybe they were accused when they were younger.....

And Hawkeye is enmeshed in a BDSM lifestyle that is about the sadomasochistic domination of women--involving things like tying up and gagging his wife during sex--so his views on the issues of rape and consent are colored by his own sexual preferences, and his anxiety that the laws will crimp or hinder that BDSM lifestyle.

They used to be guided by reason, now they are guided by emotion and the will of the mob....

UVA would have had the same sexual assault mishandling issues even if the RS article were never published--

And many universities are grappling with the issue of how much fraternities contribute to the problem of sexual assault

So, nothing about the need to reform policies, in how sexual assault matters are handled at UVA, was essentially effected by the RS story at all.

was actually lying about having gone through a sexually traumatic experience that night

skepticism that Jackie was intentionally lying, rather than just confused or suffering from trauma, is also appropriate.

. You're only too happy to start nailing her to the cross--you're doing the exact thing to a woman that you deride women for doing to men. So much for any claims you might have for the moral high ground.

Truth and justice used to be the American way...that is the moral high ground. There is nothing morally right about assuming that those who claim to be victims are in fact victims,

I dont know for a fact that there has been any problem here, all I know is that the feds accused them, and a whole lot of others, at the behest of the feminists.

though we do know that there was not a scratch on her, that she refused to go the the hospital to get a rape kit, refused to go the the police, and lied about who if anyone assaulted her

this article nicely illustrates the truth that women sometimes lie about sexual abuse

But, according to the friends who spent the night of the alleged attack with her, her behavior and appearance were consistent with a person who had just been through a horrible trauma. You want to discount their eyewitness observations, I don't.

You don't know that she didn't have a scratch on her

And I do think she might be a very emotionally fragile or emotionally disturbed young woman,

for her sake, that what actually did happen to her that night does come to light, so she can receive whatever help she needs.

No one's ever disputed that, but it's a relatively infrequent occurrence

This business with Jackie is really about someone making an apparently false or misleading allegation to a magazine reporter--are there any laws against doing that?

But to some conservatives and critics of the news media, the Rolling Stone article underscored what they viewed as an overzealous movement to define and prosecute a national “rape culture” problem that is both politically infused and negligent of the rights of the accused.

“Even when you get beyond the shocking story that is now in doubt,” said Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review and a University of Virginia alumnus, “there was this stilted view that this university was run by privileged white male rapists.”

Many conservatives bristle at the concept of a rape culture that permeates the discussion of sexual assault on campuses. “There is no evidence of a rape culture on the American campus,” said Christina Hoff Sommers, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. “The panic seems to be driven by a toxic combination of 1980s-style conspiracy feminism, along with the often-repeated but misleading ‘one in five women’ factoid,” she said, noting the federal finding that one in five college women have been sexually assaulted.

I am however not fine with their being no penalties to lying about sexual abuse to the university so long as universities are tasked with administering justice. I believe that she lied to the university, and I think the should be suffering consequences for that lie

A criminal charge and some jail time might just be what is best for her

And, prior to the RS article, did UVA ever act on, or investigate anything, based on what this woman alleged?

Arrest made in San Diego rape, one of a string near college campus
By Michael Fleeman
Wed Dec 10, 2014

(Reuters) - A San Diego State University student has been arrested in connection with a sexual assault near campus, marking the first arrest in a string of seemingly unrelated reported rapes that have triggered protests over the school's handling of sexual violence, authorities said on Wednesday.

Francisco Paiva Sousa, a 20-year-old sophomore, was arrested on Tuesday for investigation of forced oral copulation and false imprisonment and booked into the San Diego County jail on $100,000 bond, according to the jail's website.

He was arrested after a woman told police she was forced to have oral sex in a bathroom stall in a private house near campus late Saturday night or early Sunday morning, according to campus police.

"The victim identified the suspect and, after an extensive investigation by detectives, police arrested SDSU student Francisco Paiva Sousa," campus police said in a statement.

Sousa was arrested on the same day as the latest protest over the university's response to sexual assault cases. About two dozen students marched, chanting, "Two, four, six, eight, stop the violence, stop the rape," before temporarily taking over the lobby of university President Elliot Hirshman's office.

A statewide audit in June also criticized San Diego State and three other California public universities for poor training and preparation of its staff to deal with sexual assault issues on campus. Training lapses left staff at risk of mishandling reports of sexual harassment and violence, the report said.

The university has received 13 reports of assault this semester, including one in September at the same house where Sousa is accused of assaulting a woman. No arrests have been made in the earlier case there, nor in any of the other incidents reported to the university.

While the fraternity or sorority system has come under fire along with the university, this weekend's assault took place at a private off-campus house.

Fraternities and sororities last month suspended all social activities until their members undergo sexual assault prevention training after members of two fraternities threw eggs and waved sex toys at demonstrators in a Take Back the Night anti-rape march.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/10/us-usa-rape-california-idUSKBN0JO2AQ20141210

Senators ask: Why are so few campus rapes reported?
By KIMBERLY HEFLING
AP Education Writer
December 9, 2014

WASHINGTON — It’s estimated that only a fraction of campus sexual assault victims go to police. Senators want to know why.

A Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing on Tuesday focused on the role of law enforcement in campus sexual assault cases.

“I am concerned that law enforcement is being marginalized when it comes to the crime of campus sexual assault,” said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., the subcommittee chairman, in remarks prepared for delivery. “I’m concerned that the specter of flawed law enforcement overshadows the harm of marginalized law enforcement.”

The hearing comes in the wake of a Rolling Stone article describing a gang rape alleged to have occurred in a fraternity house at the University of Virginia. The magazine later acknowledged mistakes in its reporting.

Some sexual assault victims have said they prefer to work within their university system to seek disciplinary action against the perpetrator, such as expulsion, without the stress of pressing criminal charges. But there have been complaints that universities have encouraged victims to not seek criminal action because they want to protect the university’s reputation or that schools aren’t prepared to adequately adjudicate such cases.

Whitehouse said victims are victimized again if they are steered away from law enforcement based on uninformed choices. Whitehouse, a former U.S. attorney and attorney general in his home state, said evidence shows that most men who commit these crimes are serial offenders – and a threat to public safety. He said students have a right to know that delays in opening an investigation and collecting evidence could make the case difficult to prove later.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., is co-sponsoring a bill with Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., that would force colleges to have a memorandum of understanding with their local law enforcement over handling such cases. She said the ultimate goal is that 100 percent of victims report to police. “But, time and again, I have heard from far too many survivors of campus sexual assault that they have felt re-victimized by the process of trying to seek justice for the crime committed against them,” Gillibrand said in prepared remarks.

The legislation is supported by a bipartisan group of senators.

Reports of sexual assault on campus rose 50 percent from 2009 to 2012, Sheldon said, citing federal data. He said the vast majority of offenses go unreported.

Statistics show that one in five women is assaulted during their college years.

The Obama administration has taken steps in the last year to highlight the problem and to pressure universities to better assist victims.

Gillibrand said she’s concerned that the Rolling Stone story may be held up as a reason not to believe survivors when they come forward.

"It has never been about this one school and it is painfully clear that colleges across the country have a real problem with how they are handling, or not handling cases of sexual assault on their campuses,” she said.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2014/12/09/3389825/senators-ask-why-are-so-few-campus.html#storylink=cpy

Here's the most disturbing journalistic detail to emerge from the Post's reporting: In the Rolling Stone story, Erdely says that she contacted Randall, but he declined to be interviewed, “citing his loyalty to his own frat.” Randall told the Post he was never contacted by Erdely and would have been happy to be interviewed.

That could mean one of two things: Jackie could have given Erdely fake contact information for Randall and then posed as Randall herself, sending the reporter that email in which he supposedly declined to participate in the story. Erdely also could have lied about trying to contact Randall. Rolling Stone might have hinted at this possibility in its “Note to Our Readers” when it referred to a “friend of Jackie’s (who we were told would not speak to Rolling Stone)" but later spoke to the Washington Post. That would take Erdely a big step beyond just being gullible and failing to check her facts, moving this piece in the direction of active wrongdoing.