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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 24 Nov, 2014 11:26 pm
@firefly,
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Whatever the percentage of actual rapists must be — let’s just say 5%


Lets say .00005%, which is surely closer to the truth than Cohen's guess.

Richard Cohen? Really? THis man has never heard a victim story that he did not buy hook line and sinker, with or without any evidence being presented on the matter. He likes to think of himself as a journalist, but his work is closer to fiction.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Nov, 2014 04:01 am
@nononono,
I don't doubt your family has a long tradition of fornicating with livestock, otherwise you wouldn't be here.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Nov, 2014 04:09 am
@hawkeye10,
Because rape's so ******* hilarious isn't it Hawkeye? You must have pissed yourself laughing when you employed the local paedophile to babysit. You must have chuckled about it all evening thinking about how their lives would be ruined when you got home.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 25 Nov, 2014 09:03 am
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Three more charged in Ramapo College sex assault
November 24, 2014,
By ABBOTT KOLOFF and ALLISON PRIES

The scope of an investigation into an alleged sexual assault at the Ramapo College campus in Mahwah broadened Monday as three students, including an 18-year-old woman, were accused of encouraging the reported attack, and authorities said a second victim was sexually abused.

The announcement of additional charges prompted the college president, Peter P. Mercer, to issue a statement saying the new charges raised a “fundamental issue” about “personal responsibility and respect for one’s fellow students” that he said were “at the core of collegiate life.” He also said the college planned to have an outside group conduct an independent review of some of its policies and educational programs, and that he planned to conduct a campuswide discussion in light of the charges.

Bergen County Prosecutor John L. Molinelli issued a news release on Monday afternoon announcing that three students had been charged with endangering an injured victim, adding that they “aided or encouraged” two other students during an alleged assault in a dorm room following a fraternity party that took place the evening of Nov. 14. Additional charges have been filed against the two students who were arrested last week on the sexual assault charges, he said.

Jordyn Massood, an 18-year-old woman from Wayne, and two 18-year-old men from Staten Island, Justin Sommers and Christopher Rainone, were arrested on the campus “without incident” on endangerment charges, Molinelli said. Sommers and Rainone also were charged with invasion of privacy for allegedly taking photos of the victim without her consent, Molinelli said. The three students were released after being issued summonses. None could be reached for comment Monday night.

Nakeem D. Gardner, 18, of Paterson, and Christian A. Lopez, 24, of Secaucus, had been charged last week with first-degree sexual assault and other offenses. Authorities filed additional charges against both men on Monday, including a criminal sexual contact charge against Lopez for allegedly “inappropriately touching” another woman.

Molinelli said that Lopez also faced new charges related to the original sexual assault: criminal restraint, endangering an injured victim and invasion of privacy. Gardner, who was charged last week with invasion of privacy for allegedly taking photos of the victim, is now additionally charged with endangering an injured victim, Molinelli said. Gardner and Lopez remain in the Bergen County Jail on $350,000 bail apiece, according to jail records.

The new charges come as students and educators engage in national discussions about rape at colleges, and growing concerns have been expressed about campus culture, with allegations that sexual assaults and other sexually abusive behavior often go unreported. Just three days ago, the University of Virginia responded to a report of an alleged gang rape at a fraternity by temporarily shutting down all fraternities.

Mercer, Ramapo’s president, said in a message to students posted on his Web page that alcohol consumption appears to have been “a factor for the accused in this case” and added that he plans to intensify educational efforts that focus on the dangers of binge drinking. He also expressed disappointment about the accusations against the three newly charged students. He said their alleged offenses “have to do with invasion of privacy and failure to render aid.”

“It is distressing to think that none of those who were aware of this incident at the time appear to have intervened even by reporting it anonymously,” he wrote. “This is not who we are and does not reflect the values that we, as a college, uphold and promote."

One student said on Monday night that he was stunned by the new allegations but added that he did not want to comment further without knowing more details. Several members of the student government did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

Mercer said he expected to have news by next week about a review of the college’s programs, and added that he planned to ask students to participate in a discussion related to campus culture.

“We need, as a college, to engage seriously on these matters,” Mercer wrote, “and I will be reaching out to student groups in particular in the coming days and weeks about how to best hold that discussion.”
http://www.northjersey.com/news/three-more-charged-in-ramapo-college-sex-assault-1.1140711
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Tue 25 Nov, 2014 02:44 pm
@firefly,
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Molinelli said that Lopez also faced new charges related to the original sexual assault: criminal restraint, endangering an injured victim and invasion of privacy. Gardner, who was charged last week with invasion of privacy for allegedly taking photos of the victim, is now additionally charged with endangering an injured victim, Molinelli said. Gardner and Lopez remain in the Bergen County Jail on $350,000 bail apiece, according to jail records.


You have to wonder about the minds of people sometimes. Alcohol or no alcohol. Taking photos for what? To put up on face-book, to blackmail later, certainly not to assist in proof.. Wonder if that will be their claim, the later.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 03:05 am
Hey. I now have the $50 phrase that describes what the feminists have done to the word "rape".

Quote:
What's Black Friday's malady? A deadly disease called "semantic satiation." This is an actual psychological phenomenon (Don't you love social scientists?) that works like this: When a word or phrase is used to the point of oversaturation, it loses meaning and eventually is perceived as jibberish.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/11/28/black_friday_has_a_problem_semantic_satiation.html

Good to know....
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 06:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
Code:PLAYBOY: Do you think that feminism is antisexual?

PAGLIA: The problem with America is that there's too little sex, not too

much. The more our instincts are repressed, the more we need sex,

pornography and all that. The problem is that feminists have taken over with

their attempts to inhibit sex. We have a serious testosterone problem in this

country.

PLAYBOY: Caused by what?

PAGLIA: It's a mess out there. Men are suspicious of women's intentions.

Feminism has crippled them. They don't know when to make a pass. If they

do make a pass, they don't know if they're going to end up in court.

PLAYBOY: Is that why you've been so critical about the growing number 6f

sexual harassment cases?

PAGLIA: Yes, though I believe in moderate sexual harassment guidelines. But

you can't the Stalinist situation we have in America right now, where any

neurotic woman can make any stupid charge and destroy a man's reputation.

If there is evidence of false accusation, the accuser should be expelled.

Similarly, a woman who falsely accuses a man of rape should be sent to jail

. My definition of sexual harassment is specific. It is only sexual harassment--

by a man or a woman--if it is quid pro quo. That is, if someone says, "You

must do this or I'm going to do that"--for instance, fire you. And whereas

touching is sexual harassment, speech is not. I am militant on this. Words

must remain free. The solution to speech is that women must signal the level

of their tolerance--women are all different. Some are very bawdy.

PLAYBOY: What, about women who are easily offended and too scared or

intimidated to speak up?

PAGLIA: Too bad. You must develop the verbal tools to counter offensive

language. That s life. Feminism has created a privileged, white middle class of

girls who claim they're victims because they want to preserve their bourgeois

decorum and passivity.

PLAYBOY: You're expecting girls to stand up for themselves in a culture that

discourages them from doing just that?

PAGLIA: That's right. We must examine the degree to which we coddle

middle-class girls. There is something sick about it. The girls I see on

campuses are often innocuous, with completely homogenized personalities,

miserable, anorexic and bulimic. The feminist movement teaches them that

it's men's fault, but it isn't. These girls go out into the world as heiresses of all

the affluence in the universe. They are the most pampered and most affluent

girls on the globe. So stop complaining about men. You're getting all the

rewards that come with the nice-girl persona you've chosen. When you get

into trouble and you're batting your eyes and someone is offending you and

you are too nice to deal with it, that's a choice. Assess your persona. Realize

the degree to which your niceness may invoke people to say lewd and

pornographic things to you--sometimes to violate your niceness. The more

you blush, the more people want to do it. Understand your part of it and

learn to parry. Sex talk is a game. The girls in the Sixties loved it. If you don't

want some professor to call you honey, tell him.


http://privat.ub.uib.no/BUBSY/playboy.htm

WOW, I like her even more now. This almost exactly matches my opinion. And she wants the AOC to be 14, a whole year less than what I advocate.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
You think a 20 year old interview with Paglia really explains what's going on on today's campuses in terms of sexual assaults? 20 years ago is the previous generation, not the current one.

One change in 20 years is that more young women are speaking out now about having been raped--and it's their voices that are focusing attention on the rape situation on campuses today--they are the real rape activists now.

You and Paglia, with your focus on "feminists" are both relics of the past.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:21 pm
@firefly,
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You think a 20 year old interview with Paglia really explains what's going on on today's campuses in terms of sexual assaults?

No, it explains the feminists method of male bashing on University Campuses, and what they expect to get out of it. Paglia also says the females are increasingly becoming lesbians because scared kicked too many times men have nothing to offer women. Just what the feminists want. Keep up the pressure, kick males hard and often while they are young is the plan. Nothing has changed, what we see now is the plan further along.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
You're just plain nuts and paranoid about feminist conspiracies. Laughing

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=84281&d=1345911106
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:32 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

You're just plain nuts and paranoid about feminist conspiracies. Laughing


You can call it what ever you want, deny what ever you want.....we have the internet now, we can do our own fact finding.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:35 pm
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The History of Campus Sexual Assault
November 30, 2014
by Anya Kamenetz

"Male sex aggression on a university campus" was the title of one of the first studies published about a topic now very much in the news. Way back in 1957, sociologist Eugene Kanin posited a model where men used secrecy and stigma to pressure and exploit women.

Today student activists and the federal government are successfully raising awareness about a problem that's been around for a very long time. By most accounts, one in five female college students will be assaulted. Gender relations have changed since the 1950s and so has the law. What's still unclear is the best approach for preventing sexual misconduct on campus. For some answers, I called up one of the leading scholars who's been researching the issue for decades.

Inside the Minds of Perpetrators

Mary Koss coined the term "date rape" back in the 1980s. She's a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona and over the course of her career, she has collected the stories of thousands, on campuses and around the world.

"I had my list of 'OMG' experiences with this research," she says, particularly when gathering reports from self-described perpetrators. Among the most disturbing, of those 'OMG' findings were these two, from the only national survey of college men on the topic, published in 1987:

* 7.7 percent of male students volunteered anonymously that they had engaged in or attempted forced sex.

*Almost none considered it to be a crime.

"They would say, 'Yes, I held a woman down to have sex with her against her consent but that was definitely not rape,'" Koss says. Part of the reason that few of her respondents considered themselves sexual offenders, she said, is that they faced no negative consequences. No accusation. No shame. No punishment. Compared with when she started doing this research in the 1980s, she says, even more men in current studies, around 11 percent, admit to being perpetrators.

The exact comparable statistic for non-students is hard to find. Which raises the question of why so much of this research concerns college students. Part of it is situational: psychology researchers always find undergraduates a handy population to study. Also, traditional college campuses, Koss points out, have situational risk factors for sexual abuse: a population that is primarily made up of young single people and lots of underage drinking. She says the three "primary drivers" that enable a small minority of men to offend without consequences, are a culture of high alcohol consumption, peer pressure from other men to prove sexual prowess and men's own attitudes favoring impersonal sex.

The Question of Consequences

Another key factor in understanding campus sexual assault is the response, or lack thereof, by universities. In the case of the University of Virginia and many others now in the news, some of the outrage seems to hinge on the appearance of institutions either discouraging or avoiding reporting sex crimes.

I asked several legal scholars why administrations don't just send victims to the police (assuming the incident is reported in the first place, which most are not.) They explained that universities have a parallel responsibility to investigate and prevent sex crimes as a gender equality issue under Title IX.

Plus, unfortunately, the criminal justice system has major shortcomings as a venue for bringing sex offenders to justice.

However, that leaves many perpetrators facing few consequences. Even when crimes are reported, says Koss, "Schools seem to have about two responses to sexual assault: One is expulsion, and two is write a paper." And expelled students are, of course, free to enroll elsewhere. Such sanctions, Koss and others note, are likely to impact neither the school environment nor the total incidence of crimes.

At the University of Arizona, Koss has implemented a different approach to enforcement, called restorative justice. This concept (which we've covered elsewhere) gives victims a space to confront offenders, who may face consequences like counseling and community service.

New Rules

Nevertheless, Koss and other researchers are, perhaps surprisingly, optimistic about the current upswell of student activism, major media attention, and especially action on the federal level. "What's happened with the president's initiative is all of a sudden it's a massive political issue, and it's getting media coverage and people are feeling free to come out and talk," she says.

What's most important, she says, is to "prioritize victim choice."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/11/30/366348383/the-history-of-campus-sexual-assault
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:39 pm
@firefly,
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* 7.7 percent of male students volunteered anonymously that they had engaged in what the minders call forced sex, or attempted to do so.

*Almost none considered it to be a crime.

"They would say, 'Yes, I held a woman down to have sex with her against her consent but that was definitely not rape because the girl did not consider it rape,'" Koss says. Part of the reason that few of her respondents considered themselves sexual offenders, she said, is that they faced no negative consequences. No accusation. No shame. No punishment. No lectures from the woman in question. Compared with when she started doing this research in the 1980s, she says, even more men in current studies, around 11 percent, admit to being perpetrators of acts that the minders do not approve of.


FIXED

Quote:
What's most important, she says, is to "prioritize victim choice."
SOME OF THE BEST LYING EVER! It is not what the people want that matters, it is what the government their bossy elite co conspirators want that matters.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
Just can't deal with reality, can you Hawkeye?

I'll take the interpretation of a leading researcher in the field, for decades now, over your meaningless, and largely mindless comments, any day.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:55 pm
@firefly,
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What's most important, she says, is to "prioritize victim choice."


The language in your quote is clearly deceptive. It should rightfully be ignored until and unless the author makes good on a vow of honesty.

One more example

Quote:
Nevertheless, Koss and other researchers are, perhaps surprisingly, optimistic about the current upswell of student activism, major media attention, and especially action on the federal level. "What's happened with the president's initiative is all of a sudden it's a massive political issue, and it's getting media coverage and people are feeling free to come out and talk,

We are only free to come out and talk so long as the words that come out of our mouths are the ones that that the minders want to have come out. Say something different and watch how not free we are to " come out and talk". It is not a new level of conversation that the minders are cheering, it is that they have convinced more brain dead Americans to follow the scripts that they have been handed.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 08:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
You're free to come out and talk all you want, no one stops you. That doesn't mean you say anything meaningful, or anything other people here find worth listening to.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 08:13 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

You're free to come out and talk all you want, no one stops you. That doesn't mean you say anything meaningful, or anything other people here find worth listening to.




Right, when you go into combat there is no guarantee that you will win. But the evidence is on my side. My side are the honest honorable people on this battlefield, and I dont doubt for a second but that we will win. The truth, reality, will in the end win. Manipulators and peddlers of fantasy will always have some good days, but they will not last.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 09:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
The problem, for you, is that you actually believe your own self-aggrandizing, self-serving BS, while others can see right through it and mainly ignore you.



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nononono
 
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Reply Fri 5 Dec, 2014 05:57 am
This man was arrested for rape based on no evidence, only the unsubstantiated claim of a woman. Katelyn Webster lied about being raped and sent a completely innocent Matthew Folino to jail and 9 months of house arrest while he faced prosecution and 5-10 years in prison. The Allegheny County police and prosecutors apparently did not bother to investigate or interview witnesses before arresting and charging Matthew Folino and just acted on Webster's lies.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Dec, 2014 07:26 am
http://www.statisticbrain.com/rape-statistics/

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