1 in 5 women get raped?

Hannah Graham used damn poor judgments that night and that resulted in her being in a position where a murderer/rapist could end her young life in a very unpleasant manner.

It would seems that people like Firefly and Izzy for some strange PC reason have a problem with trying to teach other young women not to repeat those errors and as a result they are acting as the very best friends to such murderer/rapists.

Yes dear you have a right to get drunk even underage and go around at 2 AM in the morning hooking up with a stranger and to those who dare to suggest to you that doing so is very unwise and placed you at risk, while they are just trying to take your freedoms away from you.

As Firefly stated in another post that by suggesting she should not have place herself in harm way, is the same as wishing her to stray home, locked in her home in fear as after all by Firefly light she was just out with friends.

If she had indeed remain with her friends and not dull her judgment with alcohol she likely would had still been alive today and that is a fact whither others rule it as victim blaming or not.

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@izzythepush,

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Drinking underage is normal, and in America where the age is 21, and not 18, it's unavoidable.

A lot of behaviors are normal/common and also very very unwise such as for example drinking and driving.

Eighteen years old brains are not fully developed nor does their judgments and impulse control match that of a more mature adult.

That is the reason the society should drill into young women that some behaviors are very unwise and place them at added risk, trying to compensate to some degree for their less developed independent judgment.

Hannah Graham, in my opinion, if she had reach 25 year old would had been far less likely to behavior in the manner that she did at age 18.

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@BillRM,

You're the rapist's best friend, arguing that a paedophile shouldn't be sent to prison. Behaving stupidly isn't a crime, rape is. Criminals should be punished, you're the one who wants to blame everything on the victim.

I know you find it hard to believe, but not everyone thinks that hopelessly drunk young women should be raped whilst insensible. That's how you think.

Btw, 21 is a ridiculous age to be able to drink. If you're old enough to vote you're old enough to drink.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

" you dont need to fight him off", "you dont need to speak up for yourself about what you want", " you dont have to say no", " dont worry, no matter what you do we will make it the mans fault, your stupidy cant be helped, SO YOU GO GIRL!

Like I said, you need no encouragement to be stupid. Have you thought about taking remedial lessons in written English?

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@izzythepush,

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but if challenged the details would come out, the stuff BillRM hasn't spoken about here.

Details such as it was myself not her who was the victim of domestic violence and in fact she even hit me in front of two witnesses near the end of the relationship?

I should had been concern over such details coming out along with my wife for example demanding that her sister live with us and the two children even after Sis was found bringing in drugs and stolen property into the home or taking a firearm of mine out of the house without my knowledge and permission and then wrecking my car the same night?

Sorry but I was the one who file for divorce and at that point being near to bankrupt I was spending my remaining funds to get her out of my life by way of a divorce not being concern over an order that stated that I can not assault her as I had never had assaulted her nor did I have any plans to do so in the future.

It would have been nice if I did have the funds and the energy to fight such an order but it was very very low on my list of concerns at the time.

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@BillRM,

I was thinking of what it was you did that terrified her so much.

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@izzythepush,

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arguing that a paedophile shouldn't be sent to prison

Pedophile as in a child molester and someone charge with looking at child porn is not a one to one relationship and no I do not think that someone that have never harm a child directly should be send to prison for a longer term repeat a longer term then a child rapist for example. The punishment levels in your own nation seem far more sane then what is happening in the US.

But then the majority of US Federal judges also share my opinion so are you also think that those judges should be personally attack in the manner you have been attacking me for holding the same opinions?

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Behaving stupidly isn't a crime

For Hannah Graham, her poor judgment/stupidly cause her to sentence herself to death at the age of 18 with the aid on a rapist/murderer when she placed herself into his hands and with no due process or appeals.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Pedophile as in a child molester and someone charge with looking at child porn is not a one to one relationship

Your own twisted definition. If someone willingly watches child pornography they're a paedophile, and no different from any other paedophile.

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@izzythepush,

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I was thinking of what it was you did that terrified her so much.

I did to her? Such as leaving the home and filing for divorce?

Still paying for the complete upkeep of the home for months until I found out that she was renting rooms in the home without my knowledge or permission.

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@izzythepush,

BillRM wrote:

Pedophile as in a child molester and someone charge with looking at child porn is not a one to one relationship

izzythepush wrote:

Your own twisted definition. If someone willingly watches child pornography they're a paedophile,
and no different from any other paedophile.

By what terminology do u distinguish a criminal who rapes a girl
from one 1,OOO miles away whom she never meets,
but who looks at her picture ?

I think she 'd discern a distinction.

David

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@izzythepush,

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If someone willingly watches child pornography they're a paedophile, and no different from any other paedophile.

So someone who look at a 17 and 364 day old woman/girl is the same as a person who rape an infant?

How the US define child porn is in itself a real problem among a lot of other problems with the law and the punishment build into the law.

Problems that once more the majority of Federal judges happen to agree with me not you.

Hell you own nation lawmakers agree with me far more then they agree with you.

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@BillRM,

Trust you to go for the borderline, you'll start off with 17 and 364 days and argue it all down to foetus if you had your way.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I think she 'd discern a distinction.

Have you asked any of the victims what they feel about the people who paid to watch them being raped?

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@izzythepush,

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I know you find it hard to believe, but not everyone thinks that hopelessly drunk young women should be raped whilst insensible. That's how you think.

I do think that a hopelessly drunk young women should be rape that news to me unless you are going for the theory once more that any amount of a alcohol in a woman body turn consensus sex into a rape.

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@izzythepush,

Sorry that how CP is define and a young man who is having sex with his girlfriend legally can be charge with CP if he have a picture of her and she can be charge with producing child porn if she took the picture herself to send to him.

The law have all kinds of problems that are not being address inspit of the complains of the majority of federal judges in the US.

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I think she 'd discern a distinction.

izzythepush wrote:

Have you asked any of the victims what they feel about the people
who paid to watch them being raped?

No. So far as I remember,
I have not met any rape victims whose pictures were taken.

I have previously posted this, from my experience:
in 2005, I had intestinal surgery and an infection,
keeping me in the hospital for a while. One nite,
a nurse asked me to arise from my bed to abide
her changing the bedding. I did. I stood there
in my hospital gown, with my rear end hanging
out of said gown, when a flash of white light
came from behind me. I turned n saw a man
wearing a white lab coat n holding a camera.
He left. I thought he was sick in the head,
but I did not care. His action was devoid
of consequence, un-like if he had grabbed me
and began any violent perversity. If he is looking at
that picture now, it is of no effect on me. Its not my problem.
The same as if he had a broken ankle, his mental sickness
means nothing to me. It evokes no emotion from me.
I truly don t care. If I had been the victim of any violent
crime when I was a kid, I 'd have shot the criminal, if I coud
line up a shot, but I 'd not care whether anyone were
taking pictures. I 'd not think that was important,
except maybe in aiding police.

David

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@izzythepush,

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Have you asked any of the victims what they feel about the people who paid to watch them being raped?

Well first of all most CP is not pay for so that is error one in your statement.

Second most reasonable people do not have a problem with the level of punishment given by your own nation laws for example however to sentence a firefighter to 27 years behind bars for not molesting any child but for having pictures of children being molested is insane as he would had been better off raping those children himself in many cases instead of having pictures of rapes as far as sentencing is concern.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Well first of all most CP is not pay for so that is error one in your statement.

You really are such an expert, but a deceptive one. Criminal gangs make a lot of money from trading in such images.

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@izzythepush,

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Criminal gangs make a lot of money from trading in such images.

Bullshit as the last figure I saw have over ninety percent of all such materials is either traded for or placed on P2P networks for free.

The pay for materials is a tiny fraction of all such materials and as the payments can be track as far as law enforcement is concern it is easier to deal with then the non-paid for materials.

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@BillRM,

Justice isn't always served by the courts.

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Victim Geoffrey Reed was a paedophile who was beaten to death by Stuart Wareham, 26, Benjamin Walter, 22, and Lee Wareham, 33, on June 7 last year.
Stuart Wareham, 26, was sentenced to a minimum of 20 years in jail before being eligible for parole at Winchester Crown Court today.
Lee Wareham, 33, and Benjamin Walter, 22, were both sentenced to a minimum of 18 years before being eligible for parole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303577/Caught-camera-Chilling-moment-body-paedophile-beaten-death-stuffed-suitcase-carried-shallow-grave.html

Twenty years just for killing a nonce.

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