@glitterbag,
Quote:And some of remember when good men would not have allowed a drunk, to be gang raped in the sand while others stood around and filmed.
I truly think that Hawkeye would never have been counted among such good men--mainly because he gets off on violence toward females, particularly sexual violence. He would have been too excited by witnessing the gang rape, or too involved in participating in it, to even consider the possibility that what was occurring was morally wrong, or even a rape. He's still trying to peddle the notion this had to be consensual sex, perhaps planned in advance by this young woman, because, to him, this all seems perfectly normal behavior for both the female and the males involved. His notions of reality and acceptability seem shaped by his likely consumption of massive amounts of violent porn, as well as by his immersion in BDSM, because he is so desensitized and jaded to the violence involved, and so devoid of a moral compass that includes anything beyond his own immediate sexual gratification.
Hawkeye's assertion, that the arrest of two suspects for this violent crime is an abuse of men, is so paranoid it erases any doubt about his connection to reality or morality or law. Of course known suspects in violent crimes should be arrested and brought before a judge, who can then decide whether they pose a danger to the community, or a flight risk, and whether there is support for the charges against them, before deciding on bail or release or remand, because that's part of how we assure due process for criminal defendants, and protection of the public, while crimes are more thoroughly investigated and adjudicated.
Hawkeye's perception of reality, and his faulty conclusions, are unfortunately distorted by his own castration anxiety--he thinks everyone is out to emasculate him, particularly women--and subordinating and dominating women, and even fantasizing about doing that, is therefore his way to make them less sexually threatening to him--and isn't a gang rape of an incapacitated female, on a public beach, a great way to put women in their place?
It's a complete domination and humiliation of a woman, plus the added excitement of doing it in public, where one's fearless unfettered "masculinity" can be witnessed and shared and admired by other men. Yup, to arrest anyone for participating in such a satisfying male sexual experience certainly is an "abuse of men".
It's right up there with making the collection and distribution and possession of child pornography a crime, and declaring 12 year olds off limits, in terms of depriving poor Hawk, of his possible sexual pleasures.
But Hawkeye admits he is "twisted" sexually, which does serve to effectively disqualify him as a credible or acceptable arbiter of sexual morality, or sexual crimes, for the majority, since his standards are far from the norm, and often repulsive to more normal folk. Fortunately, normal people, with normal sensibilities, unlike Hawk, react to news of what seems to have transpired on that beach with appropriate shock and horror that men could have behaved like that--college men to boot. The Bay County Sheriff made no secret of his reaction to seeing the video of this rape.
Quote:The attack, recorded on a cellphone video, happened sometime March 10-12 in Panama City, Bay County Sheriff Frank McKeithen said at a news conference. Authorities learned of the assault when police in Troy, Alabama, discovered the video while investigating a shooting.
McKeithen described the recording as the "most disgusting, sickening thing" he had ever seen. Several men can be seen surrounding an incapacitated woman on a beach chair.
"This is happening in broad daylight with hundreds of people seeing and hearing what is happening, and they are more concerned about spilling their beer than somebody being raped," he said. The sheriff said he expected investigators will make additional arrests.
The victim told police that she thought she had been drugged at the time, and she did not remember the incident well enough to report it.
"She knows something happened, but she doesn't know what happened," McKeithen said.
Quote:Sheriff on gang rape: "Wild animals preying on a carcass"
13th Apr 2015
A HORRIFYING gang rape involving an unconscious 19-year-old by Americans on Spring Break has landed two college students under arrest.
The shocking incident was made worse by the fact that it was on a crowded beach with partygoers doing nothing to stop the attack.
The rape is being described akin to "wild animals preying on a carcass laying in the woods" by Sheriff Frank McKeithen.
He told the Panama City News Herald it was the "most disgusting, sickening thing" he had ever witnessed.
"Within 10 feet from where this is happening there are hundreds, hundreds of people standing there watching, looking, seeing, hearing what is going on," he said.
"Yet our culture and our society and our young people have got to the point where obviously this is acceptable somewhere, but I will tell you it is not acceptable in Bay County."
The rape is thought to have occurred between March 10 and 12 in Florida's Panama City.
It was filmed on a mobile phone, which police later discovered while investigating a shooting.
In the footage, several men can be seen surrounded an unconscious young woman on a beach chair.
As she tries to remove their hands from her genital region, men can be heard saying, "she isn't going to know".
Police have now arrested Delonte' Martistee, 22 and Ryan Austin Calhoun, 23, charging each with sexual battery by multiple perpetrators.
The victim has told authorities she may have been drugged at the time.
She said she did not recall the attack well enough to confidently report it.
The two men have now been suspended from their university in Alabama.
In a statement, Troy University wrote that the pair are now on temporary suspension.
Martistee has also been booted from the university's track and field team.
More arrests are likely.
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/sheriff-gang-rape-wild-animals-preying-carcass/2604662/
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It is not the first incident of its kind, either. BCSO has gotten leads on other sexual batteries on the beach in broad daylight this year by following social media. In one video, a crowd pours beer on a girl who appears to be incapacitated while a male performs oral sex on her. The trend of sexual crimes going unreported and a flood of firearms into Bay County this year were particularly concerning to BCSO officials with the future of Spring Break...
However, the report of the “gang rape” video and the arrests Friday were a tipping point for law enforcement, McKeithen said....
“This draws the line in the sand for us,” McKeithen said. “It is not safe for our children on the beach. … If you condone this behavior, you should be in jail, as far as I’m concerned...
http://www.newsherald.com/news/crime-public-safety/men-charged-with-sexual-battery-in-videotaped-pcb-incident-1.463108?ot=hmg.PrintPageLayout.ot&print=nophoto
If this sort of rape, by college students, takes place in a public area, with hundreds of non-intervening bystanders around, can you imagine how much more sexual abuse/assault goes on, all the time on campuses, in more private surroundings? Should the campus sexual assault/rape numbers really surprise anyone?
It was videotape evidence that helped obtain convictions in the Vanderbilt University gang rape case, and the first two people convicted in that case face sentencing in about 10 days. In the Vanderbilt case, the incapacitated female victim also did not recall the assault, but video evidence was so compelling the jury was out only 3 hours before returning their guilty verdicts.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/vanderbilt-rape-trial-jurors-video-evidence-decided-guilty/story?id=28590346
Let's hope the videotape evidence in this current Florida beach gang rape also proves useful in obtaining a conviction. So far, I think we should applaud the excellent detective work that led to the discovery of this unreported sexual assault, its location, and the identification and arrest of two suspects. It's that sort of commitment, and swift action, by law enforcement that sends a message that this sort of assaultive behavior will not be tolerated, and that's what will help to deter it.