Cigarettes don't kill people, people kill people

Well, I may get beat up for saying this, but I feel strongly that smoking should not be allowed in cars...especially a car with kids under the age of 18. Both my parents smoked when I was growing up and the only bad memory I have of either of them was how awful it was to be sitting in a car with all that smoke. (They smoked Lucky Strike). And I hated the way my house smelled. Always clean and pretty but stinky.

I also think smoking in a house with children under the age of 16 should be illegal as well. I don't think it's possible to enforce a law like that, but it would be worth a try. At the very least, ban smoking in cars. Period.

We have Research Triangle Park, Charlotte is a huge banking center, Eastern NC produces pork and Turkeys, Wilkesboro and Boone area are huge marijuana producers and let's don't even talk about the meth labs....not to mention the income brought in by all our miltary bases and the pawnshops, hos and predatory retailers that live off of the milatry......we'll be just fine thank you. :wink:

Heehee - you folks are gonna end up in opium den-like places - or smoke-easies...

It's not the cigarettes, it's the fire you put on the end of them........fire kills people...

And they ARE like guns - Craven is right! They only kill when they are fired!

Think of looking for the smoking gun!

I am sure we can work the weak buffaloes in here, too. Smoking is good for the human race, because it eliminates the weak ones who are prone to cancer, cardio-vascular disease, emphysema, bronchitis and such.

Of course, this only works if we make little kiddies smoke from birth - like lab-rabbits - because otherwise it only eliminates people AFTER they have reproduced.








Was that a little too dark?

Bear - I'm starting to think like you - it is getting spooky...

Or, mebbe you are starting to think like me?

I strive to be a positive influence.....

Last time I looked, of the two groups they were the only one exuding large amounts of noxious fumes, except for that time when all we served was deviled eggs, cheese, sauerkraut, polish sausage and beer.

Then it was about even steven, but the stink amounts were the same.


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You smokers know that you stink, right?
No offense but man, sometimes.....

Joe

hehhehheh ...


Count me in with the people who think the government & the (health) moralists have pushed this one too far. Definitely over there, from what i hear. Last think they introduced here was a smoking ban on train platforms. On train platforms! Thats outside, mind you!

Ive never smoked in my life. I dont like the smell of smoke, and usta give my dad and my mum's friend no peace about it. But even ive never been bothered by cigarette smoke on a train platform. The cigarette smoke there is nothing compared to the car exhaust gases you have to inhale every single day walking down busy streets or cycling.

People bother people when they are close to one another. Fact of life. They bother each other with cellphones (arrgghh), with their cars (exhaust, ugly, danger), with their cycles (dont watch out, just ride people down), their perfumes and god knows what. I'm all for creating places everywhere where you can be spared such stuff - phone-free train compartments, thank god! But we cant put the max line of permitted behaviour everywhere at the minimum level where someone might be bothered.

My humble opinion ...

(Plus, hey, a rock concert without smoke - except for the dry ice, of course, which is allowed i guess - its just not the same, is it? ... ;-))

when people comment on your smoking all you have to tell them: "It's not your moral territory."

a story:

a German businesssman was visiting New York, and while he was being driven around the city by his client he noticed all the well-dressed women standing outside of the office buildings smoking. he commented how wonderful a country he thought America was for having prostiitutes so readily available for anyone who wanted them.

There is a place that smokers can, and do, go in large numbers - crematoriums.

Yeah, we know that our hair and our clothes smell like cigarettes, and our teeth aren't as pretty as they could be and our breath not as pleasant. many of us would like to be non-smokers but it is quite a difficult task. I smoke in my car and in my home, but I rarely smoked in the same room my kids were in, and my car window is always open when I smoke. (I don't much like the smell myself). And yet, I still feel that I am entitled to the same rights as other human beings in public places. You can segregate me if you like, but you shouldn't BAN me.

Just a quick true story about noxious people in public places:

Last Monday I got on the 23 bus at 3rd, seated about half way back was a woman on a cell phone talking LOUDLY. I got a seat a few feet away and got a earful for the next four blocks. There was apparently a problem with her friend's summer rental, so she was prepping the friend with the proper way to handle the situation at a volume that defied belief.

"NO, FIRST TELL RAMON THAT HE HAS TO REMOVE ALL THE WET FURNITURE. ..... YES, ALL OF IT.....beCAUSE HE WAS THE ONE WHO LEFT IT OUT IN THE RAIN REMEMBER!!!????

MerCifully, at Seventh Avenue her connection died.

HELLO! hELLo HELLO!!!! ARE YOU THERE!! HELLOOOOO!

So, she got out her book and began to read. And you gotta believe me that when I saw the title I about fell to the floor:

She was reading Toby Young's book: "How to lose friends and alienate people."


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CIGS DON"T KILL
well, here are some pros and cons ! here's the SMOKING NEWS FROM IRELAND >>> DON"T PUFF IN IRELAND ! .......................................my dad smoked all his life, and he lived well into his 8o's. when getting up in the morning, he would light up first and then start shaving. he smoked about a pack a day, except during the war years when it was sometimes difficult to get cigs. he also grew his own tabacco in the vegetable garden and would do the "curing" by placing the leaves into a metal box and put it under the manure pile for a few days to "speed up the curing process "( i guess). the cigs from this batch were just AWFUL !i still have the old box; it makes a fine tool box ! ............................. i tried "the manly thing" (smoking a cigar) when i was about 18 years old . got sick as a dog and have never tried again !!! personally, i wish that people wouldn't smoke, but i'm sure it is very difficult to stop once started. hbg

There are some cool "cigar bars" in NYC.......I love a man who smokes.......but still, I wish he would quit. It's very bad for his health......

Smokers, you are welcome to smoke anyplace, except near me. I smoked from early childhood until age fifty, eleven years ago, but today I hate the taste and smell of it.

Good for you, Edgar!
Just don't pop in on Thirsty Thursdays here, and it's all good!

Smokers don't just smell like cig smoke... its worse than that.

The breath smells much worse, more like feces than smoke.

The body smells like sweat combined with nicotine... that's much worse than simple smoke.

The hair always smells dirty.

I suppose it's okay so long as you don't inhale.

I"m an ex smoker, but squinney smokes....she goes outside to do it. We have two cubs that had childhood asthma, and I can't stand it anymore, so she smokes on the porch or in the garage, and she doesn't smoke in the garage when the band is rehearsing. I wish she would quit. If she dies first I can't bear the thought of foraging and fishing alone.
And she does wonderful things with a freshly killed seal.