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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 12:45 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:

You'd think that it would also be easy to keep a nationwide database on all the people cops kill annually, and there's even a non-binding law that tells them to collect the data, but nope. They just don't do it. A few volunteer self-selected data to submit, but there is simply no way to find out actual numbers, much less the races of those killed.
Yea, if the police knew the races,
then thay coud figure out whether to shoot back, or not.
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 12:48 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Laughing Hadn't thought of that. But it would be a great database to have. People would be mining it all the time, I suspect.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 01:36 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Tracy Ballard, 44, brought her 7-year-old daughter to a store on West Florissant to buy candy and soda, before a trip to the beautician up the street.

"I feel sad for the business owners," Ballard said. "It's really sad it had to come from this. We just wanted justice. If we'd have had justice, none of this would have happened."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/30/ferguson-police-officer-darren-wilson-resigns/

None of this would have happened if there had not been illegal property destruction during a riot.
This is no better than in the old days when they said " we would not have lynched the nigger if he would have behaved".
I have 1OO% confidence that any of those rioters woud have done the same thing to brown
in the same circumstances. The alternative woud have been suicidal negligence, like Russian Roulette.





David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 01:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I am with you there....the lack of honesty of modern americans is just as strong as the stupidity.

I think it is hilarious that these same people would probably talk all day about the stupidity of Sarah Palin or the Tea Party, yet here they are in the streets of Ferguson, lying their asses off because it is the message of the day, begging the government to end the rule of law to get an alleged abuser not comprehending that if the rule of law did not exist they they are going to end up as slaves. .

Do these morons ever have an original thought, or is it all fed to them?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 01:58 am

SELF-PRESERVATION is a sign of good mental health.
Suicidal ideation is indicative of poor mental health.
Taking un-necessary chances with your life
shows alarming, terrible mental sickness.

If Wilson had not done what he DID,
then he 'd have proven severe mental impairment.

Wilson did the right thing, the healthy thing.
My hat is off to him.
He 'd need to do the same thing to a white
who similarly threatened him.





David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 02:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Exactly, if you are going to try to take a gun away from a cop then you are likely to end up dead. If you dont want to go that way then dont do it. I have no sympathy.

The really strange thing is that there are at least 50 other cases of blacks killed by cops a year that would better fit the narrative of cops killing for the crime of being black, and this is the one they choose? Drunk
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 02:18 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
I am with you there....the lack of honesty of modern americans is just as strong as the stupidity.
I pride myself in being honest. Its fun!

hawkeye10 wrote:
I think it is hilarious that these same people would probably talk all day about the stupidity of Sarah Palin or the Tea Party, yet here they are in the streets of Ferguson, lying their asses off because it is the message of the day, begging the government to end the rule of law to get an alleged abuser not comprehending that if the rule of law did not exist they they are going to end up as slaves.
If Ferguson is almost all black,
then thay r destroying n stealing black property!?!

Anyway, the rioters get free stuff!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 02:36 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Exactly, if you are going to try to take a gun away from a cop
then you are likely to end up dead. If you dont want to go that way then dont do it. I have no sympathy.
Wilson coud not take the chance of getting pounded to death
or being left in a permanent mutilated condition, maybe blind or deaf
for the purpose of keeping the evil alive
so that it coud continue its rampage indefinitely ???
It possibly woud have been his last Earthly mistake.

DON 'T RISK MORE THAN U R WILLING TO LOSE.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 02:47 am
@OmSigDAVID,
the only conceivable reason to try to take a gun from a cop in that situation is that you have decided that you want to cop dead but find yourself without a gun. " Big Mike" communicated an intent to kill, from that point on so long as he is a threat he is a lethal threat, and anyone with brains will act accordingly.

This is not rocket science, but clearly it is too much deep thinking for a lot of Americans, especially those with a fair about of recent African genetics. Do they grow them stupid over there in Africa? They are by far the most backwards continent so maybe.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 03:32 am

To each of those who disparage Wilson,
I 'd address this question, if I coud:

If your son or daughter were beginning
a career on a police force, woud u counsel him or her:
"Don 't do what Officer Wilson did.
If u have a 6' 6" black or white robber and assailant
running, thundering down the road toward U, coming to get u,
DON T SHOOT HIM! Just take your chances
that maybe with enuf luck, u will not be pounded to death
and u might survive without being beaten into blindness or deafness
or other severe permanent injuries, but the important thing
is to keep the evil alive. THEN the blacks will not get mad and riot."
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 03:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
If one of my relatives was joining the police force, shooting an unarmed man wouldn't be an option. Our police officers are brave, they don't hide behind guns.

I would advice them to be polite, not use racist language. And not try to engineer a confrontation be deliberately, and needlessly, provoking someone.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 03:39 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Have you ever seen what happens when parents get scared of their three year olds and start giving them what ever they want? It is not pretty.

We as a nation are getting close to this with the blacks. I say WAKE UP! before it is too late. Dont double down on this mistake.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 03:44 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
And not try to engineer a confrontation be deliberately, and needlessly, provoking someone.


So suspected criminals are not to be confronted by the cops in your opinion?

http://tgimpage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/stupid2.jpg
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 04:46 am
@hawkeye10,
You mean the sort of moron who would post something like this?

Quote:
Zimmerman seems to have a knack for getting into bazaar situations.

http://able2know.org/topic/239161-15#post-5764333

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 04:50 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
If one of my relatives was joining the police force,
shooting an unarmed man wouldn't be an option.
He was ARMED, by Nature, Izzy.
Is a tiger un-armed ?
He had the means to pound Wilson to death.
It woud have been mentally ill for Wilson to simply take the chance
that he might survive. There was no reason to do that.



izzythepush wrote:
Our police officers are brave,
Suicidal negligence shoud not be confused with bravery.


izzythepush wrote:
they don't hide behind guns.
It proved to be an effective shield (the head shot). It saved him.



izzythepush wrote:
I would advice them to be polite
Diplomacy can serve u well, very well, SOMETIMES.
Is there time to practice it when a giant collosus of malice
is racing toward u expected to arrive within a fraction of a second ??




izzythepush wrote:
not use racist language.
Is that an issue??


izzythepush wrote:
And not try to engineer a confrontation be deliberately, and needlessly, provoking someone.
If he stops enforcing the law,
does he have a right to cash his paycheck ?

What this all comes down to is:
HE WHO GETS ATTACKED, HAS THE RIGHT TO FIGHT BACK.
IF THE PREDATOR GETS KILLED, THEN THE REST OF US R SAFER.
LET'S CHEER, AS WE DID WHEN THE JAPS SURRENDERED
.






Thus attesteth: David
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 04:54 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The really strange thing is that there are at least 50 other cases of blacks killed by cops a year that would better fit the narrative of cops killing for the crime of being black, and this is the one they choose?


It the headlines of white cop killed unarmed black teenager that matter not the little "unimportant details such as his size, his actions of manhandling a full adult like he was a small child when stealing cigars shortly before and his beating on the cop and trying to seized the cop weapon.

Then you added in the false claims that Brown had his hands up to surrender and you have the perfect storm.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 06:07 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Nonsense David, your police force has a disproportionate amount of racist trigger happy thugs. We do our best to weed that element out, because our government is not so criminally negligent as to arm police officers out of hand, our streets are considerably safer.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 06:59 am
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025891482

My nephew is a 29 year cop said this about Ferguson.

Not only is he a 29 year cop, he is the third highest ranking officer in the county that he works in. I asked him about this. Being the Republican that he is, I expected him to jump to Darin Wilson's defense. He had this to say.

He would not say it was a racial thing because he doesn't know. He did say he read all of the reports and the grand jury testimony.

1-He said at very least Wilson is completely incompetent. That you never get out of the car by yourself if you know there is going to be a physical confrontation with an unarmed person. Especially if you were in Wilson's words, "afraid" of the guy.

2- He said Wilson should have let Brown go, followed him as far as he could in the car as he called for back up. If he had to, arrest him later.

3-He had no business firing once Brown was down on the ground. He fired four shots too many even if you believe his story.

4- It is unheard of to leave the guy laying in the street for four and a half hours.

5- If all of this was in accordance to Wilson's training, an idiot trained him.

6-Brown's family will get a huge settlement from Ferguson because if this goes to civil trail it will cost them many millions more.

What my nephew thinks happened is that Wilson got into an argument with the guy, got out of his car to whip his ass. Quickly realized he bit off more than he could chew, so he shot the guy.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
This guy has hit the nail squarely on its head.

That is what some of these John Wayne types simply cannot see.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2014 07:23 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Nonsense David, your police force has a disproportionate amount of racist trigger happy thugs.
Let us assume that to be true.
If next week the same thing that befell Wilson
happened to a racist trigger happy thug
and then, on another occasion, it happened again to an anti-racist,
in both instances the victim of the impending brutality will have the same, EQUAL RIGHT of self defense.
No man 's right to self defense is affected by whether he is a racist or he is an anti-racist or he is neutral qua race.

EVERYONE, like Wilson, has the absolute right to defend himself. Do u dispute that, Izzy ?


izzythepush wrote:
We do our best to weed that element out, because our government
is not so criminally negligent as to arm police officers out of hand,
our streets are considerably safer.
Presumably, Wilson armed himself,
unless that automatic was government property.
If Wilson had been un-armed, then he 'd have been pounded to death,
in the DISCRETION the great evil that was stomping toward him;
i.e., brown woud have had him for his toy, the same as the cigar store owner.

I invite your comment on this:
from your posts, I take the inference
that extant English philosophy is that
given a choice between a clergyman intoning extollations of noble bravery at funeral
to the widow n children, mom & dad, of a fallen un-armed English policeman,
who was pounded to death by a great behemoth,

or

the policeman killing the threat in time to save his life,
the FIRST possibility is more desirable and perhaps the second possibility is dishonorable ?
 

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