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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 03:58 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:
The best stopping round is one that is between 125-135 grs. at a velocity between 1300-1400 fps, in a fast opening hollow point so that it stays in the body.

If you are relying on hydrostatic shock, yes. But it is also good to be prepared for those cases where the aggressor shrugs off hydrostatic shock and keeps on coming.

Hollowpoints that are somewhat heavy for their given caliber don't have the same potency of hydrostatic shock, but they still produce it, and they also penetrate deeply for those cases where hydrostatic shock doesn't produce the desired effect.

.45ACP 230 grain hollowpoints are the best at reaching this compromise. They provide very good penetration and very good hydrostatic shock.

If I had to defend myself with a .40 S&W, I'd prefer 165 grain hollowpoints.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 03:58 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
A 45 round is large but very slow [800 t0 900 ft/sec or so] so it is not going to go normally through anyone and was design by the US military to deal with drug up Filipina warriors charging you with large knives/swords.

Whether it goes through anyone depends on the design of the bullet. 45ACP ball ammo penetrates very deeply.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound%20Profiles/45ACP%20230gr%20FMJ.jpg
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 03:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
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Tracy Ballard, 44, brought her 7-year-old daughter to a store on West Florissant to buy candy and soda, before a trip to the beautician up the street.

"I feel sad for the business owners," Ballard said. "It's really sad it had to come from this. We just wanted justice. If we'd have had justice, none of this would have happened."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/30/ferguson-police-officer-darren-wilson-resigns/

None of this would have happened if there had not been illegal property destruction during a riot. This is no better than in the old days when they said " we would not have lynched the nigger if he would have behaved".

I hope they prosecute the people who looted and burned those stores.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 04:04 pm
@oralloy,
This trend of Liberals justifying their violence is really starting to piss me off. Also their disregard for the law, and their lack of interest in freedom.

And they wonder why America has been moving to the Right??!!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 06:41 pm
Giuliani is saying the the prosecuter caved into the mob, that the case should never gone to the GJ....political theater he calls it.

Maybe, but throwing a citizen in front of a GJ is no where near as bad as what Florida did to Zimmerman.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:20 pm
@izzythepush,
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You should be down in the sewers clearing blockages away from decent people.

I would gladly work in the sewers...at least I know that I'd be flushing you out.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
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To G-John: when I worked at the olympia capital complex feeding state workers I got to know a class of highway patrol cadets very well. They were all top notch people, and I had a lot of respect for their obvious dedication toward public service and as well that they represented the best .3% of those who applied. I do not take to blasting American policing procedures lightly.


Thank you Hawk...as you know we dont always ageree...but you are polite and certainly not a dumbass...I dont suffer fools well.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
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where near as bad as what Florida did to Zimmerman.


As far as I know Holder still have not closed the federal investigation of Zimmerman.

I am fairly sure that the Federal government is now repeating what they did with Zimmerman and are spending large amount of tax payers money looking at every statement Officer Wilson have made from the moment he could talk looking for any possible racial comments let alone actions.

I am waiting for them to set up a website for the public to report such possible statements and or action of Wilson as they did with Zimmerman.

As he was a police officer for decades I would not be surprised if more "victims" of his come forward then women who are claiming that Cosby drug and rape them.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
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How about using a moon-clip to re-load
a double action revolver with a swing-out cylinder ?

Out of the Academy I was issued a Mod. 10 S&W. I had,at the time, the most up to date and fastest speedloaders (Safariland). (in the academy we loaded from a 12 rnd. loop loader if you can belive that!) It was demonstrated to me pointedly by a veteran cop how fast his Combat Commander was. My training officer was blown away a week later on a domestic...I went out and bought a commander next day.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:44 pm
@oralloy,
I had to take a closer look at the Glaser to get a better idea. I like the reduced chance of collateral damage, but this video reinforced my wariness about using it exclusively on somebody the size of Brown, who's going to have several extra inches of tissue covering his vital organs. I think it would be wiser to stack rounds:

giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:46 pm
@BillRM,
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Two FBI agents shot and it is not front page news!
The agents’ injuries are not life-threatening, Wu said. One of the agents was shot in the shoulder, and the other was shot in the leg.


Yeah, not life threatening but probably career ending...and the scumbag(s) will probably get time served.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:49 pm
@giujohn,
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by a veteran cop how fast his Combat Commander was


Yes sir and all you need to do is take your combat commander to the range and have it stove pipe on the first round to decide you never going to trust your life with an semi auto even a well build and well design semi auto as the combat commander happen to be.

I love my combat commander however I trust my S@W model 19 357 revolver.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:50 pm
@oralloy,
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If you are relying on hydrostatic shock, yes. But it is also good to be prepared for those cases where the aggressor shrugs off hydrostatic shock and keeps on coming.



Can you say, "Double Tap"? Frankly, I would have no problem emptying the whole mag. AND reloading if the asshole is still comming.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 07:54 pm
@oralloy,
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I hope they prosecute the people who looted and burned those stores.


WHAT??? Are you a racist??? They were NOT looters they were UNDOCUMENTED SHOPPERS!!!!
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 08:03 pm
@BillRM,
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Yes sir and all you need to do is take your combat commander to the range and have it stove pipe on the first round

Well that was years ago. But I had the commander worked on and didnt carry it untill I had 200 rounds through it with my carry ammo, Speer 200gr HPs, with out a jam. Now a days its a glock 40 S&W w/135 gr HPs The newer autos rarely jam...oh, and BTW I have had S&W revolvers jam too! Thats why I alway carry a back up.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 08:06 pm
@FBM,
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I had to take a closer look at the Glaser to get a better idea. ...my wariness about using it exclusively on somebody the size of Brown...



Apparently he hasnt heard of the silver tipped glasers??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TioEMEKzLn0
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 08:31 pm
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Black officer speaks out on Ferguson — What he said may shock you *VIDEO*


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(INTELLIHUB.COM) — After eating lunch, a black police officer gave his take on the Ferguson situation, on video, from inside his patrol car.

In the video, recorded from the uniformed officer’s smartphone, he addressed a variety of concerns, starting with the looting and racism issues currently taking place in America, specifically in Ferguson, after officer Darren Wilson was not indicted by a grand jury for the shooting death of Michael Brown, 18.

“The things that I’m gonna say today, a lot of people not going to like.”, said the officer, continuing on to talk about ignorance and “black on black crime”.

“we [blacks] won’t let the n-word die”, he said.

Brown’s “family is still hurting [...] and we are just so riled up about what is happening in Ferguson [...] What about the families that have businesses, such as myself, I’m a business owner [...] you are messing up my future [...] looting”.

“What we should be doing is continuing to pray and trust God [...] because we are taking this personal on ourselves by looting. We are taking it to a whole new level and it’s bad people.”, said the officer.


http://www.intellihub.com/black-officer-speaks-ferguson-said-may-shock-video/
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giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:19 pm
Citing security concerns, Darren Wilson resigns from Ferguson police force.
The American media (except FOX NEWS) in their 24 hr feeding frensy, and the race baiting industry headed by the Rev. "ASSHOLE" Sharpton an NBC stooge, murdered this police officers career and that of his wifes (also a Ferguson police officer). And if the NY Times has it's way they will be responsible for their actual deaths. It is no better than a "High Tech Lynching". Two good cops down the crapper.
No more innocent until a jury says so, no more rule of law, it's trial by public opinon...or lets call it what it really is ...mob rule...anarchy.
So to the citizens of Ferguson (and most likley elsewhere) you had better think about safegarding your own saftey from black criminals. Because just as sure as Boones Farm makes little freen apples your local police will think twice about policing these politically insulated scum; thats what any black criminal is if challenged by a white cop. The precedent is set. And I wouldnt blame any copper who chooses to CYA. It's time for the citizenry to start doing a little work.
We complain about muslims in this country who dont speak up against radical terrorists. I say the same to those blacks who abhor the use of the word nigger, the thug life style and antics of the urban blacks, and the black on black crime. If you aint speaking up you are part of the problem and dont go screaming for some white cop to save your ass when Dorian the Doper is breaking into your house hell bent on his next fix. I suggest you get a gun and take the ride Darren Wilson is on.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:46 pm
@giujohn,
Well for myself I have never had a revolver fail to function and I had have very high price semi-autos jam.

I will give you that I had not tested the very newest semi-autos but I still trust my S&M 357 far more then any auto rightly or wrongly.
giujohn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:56 pm
@BillRM,
I had a case get stuck under the extraction star of a Smith at the range while I was trying to dump the empties...completely out of action. I ve had a the firing pin on a colt hammer shear off. I had the extraction rod unloosen on a Smith and back out enough where the cylinder wouldnt open...Murphys Law.


Did you get my email to you? Here on this site?
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