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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 07:46 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Nothing makes him a threat to an armed officer that requires him being shot when he is 20 feet away.


Says the Quaterback safely ensconced in his Lazy Boy.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 07:47 pm
@oralloy,
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Is there any concrete evidence that he was running away when he was shot?


The evidence shows he was facing the officer and advancing.
giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 07:57 pm
@giujohn,
THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CHANGED TO: "THE DAY DORIAN JOHNSON WAS CAUGHT IN A BLOODY LIE".

THIS WORTHLESS P.O.S. SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH INCITEMENT TO RIOT.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 08:05 pm
@oralloy,
Yes, there is eye witness testimony that the officer fired and hit him as he was running away.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 08:06 pm
@giujohn,
Did you just forget what you posted in your other post?
giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 08:27 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Yes, there is eye witness testimony that the officer fired and hit him as he was running away.


Yeah and this came from a proved liar, Dorian Johnson. And the family's "autopsy" proves otherwise.
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giujohn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 08:29 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Did you just forget what you posted in your other post?


Yuor babbling...state your point.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 21 Oct, 2014 09:16 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Yes, there is eye witness testimony that the officer fired and hit him as he was running away.

Eye witnesses are not really concrete evidence. Certainly some witnesses tell the truth. But unfortunately other witnesses lie. And even among honest witnesses, people misremember a scary amount of details.

Concrete evidence would be something like clear video recording of the entire incident from beginning to end.

I see that giujohn says that the witness that you are referring to is already a proven liar. I'm not following the case closely, but I think he's referring to the guy who had just helped the dead guy rob the store. If the witness is that guy, then his testimony is definitely invalid.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 01:43 am
@giujohn,
Actually this thread should be changed to, 'Racist inbred scum talk **** and fantasise about murdering black men.'
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 04:59 am
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Quote:
The blood on the car has nothing to do with him shooting Brown from 20 feet away when Brown has his hands up unless it was simply revenge because Brown hit him while in the car.


Wrong again dumb ass. Lets recall the families "autopsy". There was only one wound that could have been from either the front or back, hands up or down...ALL OTHERS WERE DEFINATELY FROMTHE FRONT WITH HANDS DOWN. And now that we know that he was shot IN THE CAR, this "hands up, dont shoot" bullshit will go down as another of Rev. Als blunders like Twanna Brawly.


You are joking here, right, John?

It makes no sense unless you are just joking.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 05:55 am

Quote:
The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie



Michael Brown autopsy, officer's account indicate
teen went for Ferguson cop’s gun, had marijuana in his system:
'Hands up, don’t shoot' protesters have it wrong, an independent review
of Michael Brown’s autopsy reportedly shows. Nearly three months after
unrest began in Ferguson, Mo., medical results point to a close-range
struggle between the black teen and Officer Darren Wilson.

BY JASON MOLINET

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 3:18 AM

Michael Brown was shot to death in a confrontation with police on Aug. 9.
Ferguson Police Officer Darren WIlson's account of the confrontation
in which Michael Brown was fatally shot has reportedly been leaked,
with an independent medical examiner's report backing up his version
of events.

Brown had marijuana in his system and was shot at close range
in the hand, backing up claims by a police officer that that there
was a violent struggle between the Ferguson, Mo. teen and the cop,
an independent medical examiner told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

The report supports Wilson's account, given after he shot and killed
the 18-year-old on Aug. 9. Witnesses claimed the teen was surrendering
when the cop fired. Police maintained Wilson only used his gun after
Brown tried to take it – a life-and-death fight inside a police SUV.

A source familiar with Wilson’s version of events, as told to investigators,
said the 'incredibly strong' teen punched Wilson and then pressed
the barrel of the cop’s gun against the officer’s hip and fought for
control of the trigger, the Post-Dispatch said.

Once Wilson finally had the gun, he fired, but Brown’s hand blocked
the mechanism, according to the St. Louis newspaper.

The unarmed teen was killed by a Ferguson police officer on Aug. 9.
Wilson eventually got two shots off, striking Brown in the hand.
He ran off, then regrouped and charged the officer; setting up the
final fatal confrontation, according to Wilson’s leaked statement.

Separately, St. Louis medical examiner Dr. Michael Graham – not part
of the official investigation – reviewed the autopsy report on Tuesday
and told the Post-Dispatch its finding “does support that there was
a significant altercation at the car.”

A forensic pathologist in San Francisco, Dr. Judy Melinek, said the autopsy
“supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has
gunpowder particulate material in the wound.”

Brown’s blood was found on Wilson’s gun, according to the Post-Dispatch.


Melinek also said Brown was facing the officer, not running away,
when he was shot twice in the head, twice more in the chest and
once in the upper right arm, according to the Post-Dispatch.

A St. Louis County grand jury will decide if Wilson will be charged
in the shooting.

The shooting stirred three months of unrest in the St. Louis area and
gave rise to a popular chant among protesters: “Hands up, don’t shoot.”

Turns out, that may not be true at all.

The report supports the account given by Ferguson Police Officer
Darren Wilson, who shot and killed Brown.

Wilson’s account of the messy shooting was revealed for the first time
Tuesday by the Post-Dispatch, which alleges the officer stopped the teen on
a Ferguson street after realizing he matched a radio alert of a robbery suspect.

That runs counter to Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson’s assertion
in August that the stop had nothing to do with the heist.

Video showed Brown stealing a $48.99 box of cigars from a
convenience store in a strong arm robbery.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 08:25 am
@OmSigDAVID,
It appears a confrontation occurred in the car. We do not know the circumstances involved in the confrontation...and it may have been, as one witness claims, that Brown was pulled by the officer from the window of the car...and essentially was pulled into the car or forced his way into the car because of the initial grab.

They grappled...a shot was fired (maybe two)...and Brown was hit.

He then started to run away (which seems reasonable)...and Wilson got out of his car and shot the kid to death.

The bullets went into Brown's body from the front...so he may well have been trying to surrender.

Even if Brown reached for the gun...he could well have been doing so because he had reason to suppose Wilson might simply kill him for having the audacity to wear black skin.

The circumstances of who initiated the confrontation in the car...how the confrontation escalated....who did what to whom...and the exact disposition of both when the fatal shooting occurred...is still hidden from us.

We do not know.

The grand jury will have to make a decision about whether to try Wilson.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 10:37 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
It appears a confrontation occurred in the car. We do not know the circumstances involved in the confrontation


Dont need to know, if an asshole cop is confrontational the citizen still needs to comply, and take up his grievance with the state through proper channels if he has a problem with how he was treated.

At the end of the day we dont know what happened and we will not. Under presumption of innocence the cop can not be charged.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 10:58 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
It appears a confrontation occurred in the car. We do not know the circumstances involved in the confrontation


Dont need to know, if an asshole cop is confrontational the citizen still needs to comply, and take up his grievance with the state through proper channels if he has a problem with how he was treated.


I agree. If a cop tell me to SIT DOWN...I will not even look for a chair. I just sit down.

Some people won't.

That does not give any cop the right to shoot that person to death.

My comment that "we do not know the circumstances of the confrontation...or who started it" is not trying to suggest that a private citizen may be physically confrontational if he disagrees with a law enforcement officer. I merely mentioned it to bring it once again to the front. We do not know the circumstances of the confrontation or who started it. Only Wilson does...and I suspect no matter what happened, he will tell the story in a way that makes him the victim and Brown the villain.


Quote:
At the end of the day we dont know what happened and we will not. Under presumption of innocence the cop can not be charged.


My guess is that the cop will not be charged.

I am not sure of how that will be received by people with an interest in it.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 10:40 pm
@Frank Apisa,
So you go with the execution theory, lets hang the cop?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 10:43 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I am not sure of how that will be received by people with an interest in it.


Businesses better clear out of town because this will give those lawabideing people a reason to burn and rob again. Which is why I think they will hang the cop.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 10:48 pm
@RABEL222,
Law abiding people don't burn and rob.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2014 12:28 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Law abiding people don't burn and rob.


Or steal cigars, or smoke dope in Metro St Louis, or confront cops, or resist arrest, or try to disarm a cop.

THat is a pretty sure way to end up dead. Maybe this was suicide by cop.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2014 04:12 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

So you go with the execution theory, lets hang the cop?


Not in any way.

Let the process take its course...and go with what the judicial activities determine. The process always may be correct or incorrect...but we should go with it.

I am saying that those people suggesting the evidence points conclusively one way or the other...are just not looking at the evidence objectively, because it doesn't.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2014 04:14 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Quote:
I am not sure of how that will be received by people with an interest in it.


Businesses better clear out of town because this will give those lawabideing people a reason to burn and rob again. Which is why I think they will hang the cop.


I do not think they will hang the cop...I think the cop will not be indicted. (I may be wrong on that, but I think history favors the cop walking.)

I do think some bad things will happen as a result of a walk...and I know if I were a black person in this country, I would be angry enough to do some things I might later regret.
 

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