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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 01:45 pm
@parados,
You are going to have to explain this one. I'm not giving you any ammo...

How is the public school system related to charity?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 02:30 pm
@Baldimo,
You were obviously home schooled.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 02:35 pm
@RABEL222,
Maybe you can explain it then? How is public education the same as charity?
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 02:36 pm
@Baldimo,
Charity? WTF?

http://able2know.org/topic/252068-176#post-6007484
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-176#post-6007825
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-176#post-6007960
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-179#post-6008922
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-185#post-6011233
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-185#post-6011256
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-185#post-6011272
http://able2know.org/topic/252068-185#post-6011324

I didn't bother to go back further to your gun argument. Nowhere do you discuss charity. You simply said you don't believe in "white privilege" and no one from the government ever gave you a helping hand.

The public school is clearly related to your claim that:
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no one from the govt was standing there holding my hand ... I never once received help from people like you or the ones here who claim to care for the little guy


Either you never went to public school or you are simply ignoring the fact that you were given help in the form of an education. The "white privilege" argument kind of kills your "help as an adult" red herring since I doubt you suddenly changed race when you hit 18.

You have now introduced 2 red herrings instead of addressing the fact that you have received help in your life that you now want to deny occurred.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 03:06 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

You are going to have to explain this one.

How is the public school system related to charity?


You actually need this explaining to you? That is so depressing.

How do you think the children of the poor were educated before the state stepped in?

Basically Education is a service provided by the state, like any other. What's interesting is that you didn't view it as charity but you think other services like health and welfare are.

There are some who think of public education the way you think of welfare. Why should childless people, those who can pay for private education, homeschoolers and the like, have their hard earned taxdollars spent on a charity case whose education is so remiss he can't even see the link between education and charity?

Why indeed?

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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 03:30 pm
@parados,
We see an education differently. I don't see getting a public school education as getting help as it is mandatory to attend school until you are 16, depending on the state. So no, I didn't receive any help from people like you or the ones who claim to be for the little guy. My statement stands. We were talking about what I was able to achieve in my life and my success, I don't see public education as helping me achieve that. Why does everything with you guys come back to the "you didn't build that" when talking about what someone has achieved? Why must we be beholden to the govt in everything we do?

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I didn't bother to go back further to your gun argument. Nowhere do you discuss charity. You simply said you don't believe in "white privilege" and no one from the government ever gave you a helping hand.


Once again the govt didn't offer me a helping hand. School is mandatory and help is something you ask for. You know like applying for public assistance, charity. It might be govt charity but I never asked for any and no one ever made sure I worked hard to get where I'm at. I built what I have, not the govt.

White privilege is a joke. It's a form of white guilt you leftists what everyone to feel.

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Either you never went to public school or you are simply ignoring the fact that you were given help in the form of an education. The "white privilege" argument kind of kills your "help as an adult" red herring since I doubt you suddenly changed race when you hit 18.


I went to public schools for the first 9 1/2 years of school. That last 3 1/2 years were all done a private military academy in WI. I did horrible in public school because I wasn't a very studious child. Military school changed that, and if I was to say I got a hand, it would have come from there. Besides, how many dubious links can you put into one post? My education in public school was a form of white privilege?

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You have now introduced 2 red herrings instead of addressing the fact that you have received help in your life that you now want to deny occurred.


Sorry Parados but a public education isn't the same and to twist it to be the same. It's the same BS Obama pulled when he tried the lame "You didn't build that" comment.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 03:34 pm
@Baldimo,
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White privilege is a joke. It's a form of white guilt you leftists what everyone to feel.

Well, when we are surrounded by weak idiots.....

We still get told about male privilege in spite of the fact that the women being forged today are much more happy/wealthy/wise than the males being forged today. When so many young men cant even bring themselves to go up and talk to a woman for fear of being verbally beaten and considered a" creeper".

But then we do live in "whatever it takes" times, the truth is not required.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 03:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
People like Parados don't like the fact that people have had success while not being on the govt dole. It makes them mad that someone like me went from making min wage to making over $80k a year without help from the govt. Since I went to public school I guess I owe all of my success to them. Nothing I did, like put in the hours at work and after work for my jobs. Since they taught me to read and do math, I did nothing and they did all the work. I didn't build that...
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 03:50 pm
@Baldimo,
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It makes them mad that someone like me went from making min wage to making over $80k a year without help from the govt.

You do realize that you are talking to a socialist, right? I dont think we ever do anything without a lot of help from those around us, even those oft times when our ego convinces us that we are brilliant and did it all by ourselves. I believe that much of the left encourages weakness in people, encourages people to not anything useful in this life, tells them " dont worry the government will take care of it and oh ya now we decide how you live your life" and that those who follow this advice do it to their own detriment and mine......but dont go overboard.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
Well, lets see. Unless there was a govt watcher helping with my tech support calls for the last 15 years, helping me work all that overtime and calming my ex-wife when i had to work an on-call shift for the 3rd week in a row, I don't know where all this help was.

They didn't pay my rent, they didn't buy my family food, they didn't even help keep the lights on. So you are going to have to give me an idea on how the govt has helped me get to where I am in life. I don't blame the govt for my faults, and I have many, and I don't let them take credit for my hard work either.
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tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:29 pm
@izzythepush,
Well, do you want to be on the other side of the ocean or not? Black Lives Matter is in the news every day, and you said your news is good. If you can't have an opinion about Black Lives Matter because you are in England, than how can you have an opinion about our cops?

The reason I attack the entire organization in the case of Black Lives Matter is because of what they stand for as an organization. It's pretty cut and dry in the title of the organization. BLACK Lives Matter. In America, it's the equivalent of making an organization called White Lives Matter and throwing a fit whenever anybody white goes to jail. Or the KKK, as you made the comparison before.

I don't attack the entire institution of cops because the purpose of cops is to combat thugs, or people who commit violent crimes against innocent people. Most cops are there to serve that purpose and they do there jobs. They protect every color, and they ARE every color. I think that picking a very few messed up individuals from a group and calling the entire organization racist against blacks is silly, especially with some cops being black.
tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:41 pm
@izzythepush,
I have no opinion about the English Defense League, I am not from England, I don't know about the subject. This is why I don't post on the English Defense League thread.....
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:42 pm
@tony5732,
http://www.crmtrends.com/images/chartUSEthnicityv2012.jpg

http://www.newrepublic.com/sites/default/files/u187078/police_census.png

Looks to me like the state has made huge efforts to have the force look like the people, and that if anyone has a bitch it is the hispanics not the blacks. BLM has a lot of problems other than their racist name.
tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:48 pm
@hawkeye10,
See? We can still be bros 😁
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 04:56 pm
@tony5732,
tony5732 wrote:

See? We can still be bros 😁

Dont get too worked up....I will walk with anyone who is going my way for as long as they are going my way, you dont need to pass any morality/intelligence/ agreement tests with me.

I am weird.
tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 05:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
I'm just trying to make them jealous so we can all get beers together...
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 06:48 pm
@Baldimo,
Were you absent the day in Social Studies the day they discussed public education?

Your parents never paid for all your education. Particularly if you have brothers and sisters. The bonds on your schools were thirty year bonds. The taxpayers gifted you your education. It benefits society to attempt to educate you.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66

Question:
How much money does the United States spend on public elementary and secondary schools?

Response:

Total expenditures for public elementary and secondary schools in the United States amounted to $621 billion in 2011–12, or $12,401 per public school student enrolled in the fall (in constant 2013–14 dollars, based on the Consumer Price Index). These expenditures include $11,014 per student in current expenditures for operation of schools; $1,018 for capital outlay (i.e., expenditures for property and for buildings and alterations completed by school district staff or contractors); and $370 for interest on school debt.

From 2000–01 to 2011–12, current expenditures per student enrolled in the fall in public elementary and secondary schools increased by 11 percent (from $9,904 to $11,014 in constant 2013–14 dollars). Current expenditures per student peaked in 2008–09 at $11,537 and have decreased each year since then. The amount for 2011–12 ($11,014) was 3 percent ($318) less than the amount for 2010–11 ($11,332).

At over $10,000/year/student it pretty much is charitable to educate you in a public school. So get over it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 06:54 pm
snood
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 10:04 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Well good thing it wasn't 41 times. That could look excessive.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 10:20 pm
@snood,
Its just so outrageous as to be unbelievable. There's no doubt in my mind if someone relates this story to another person, that person would think the first was exaggerating or misspeaking 14 or 4 times. Its unbelievable.
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