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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 05:40 am
@oralube,
I find it interesting that all these deaths would not had occur if the "victim" have obey the police from the start of the encounter with them.

When you resisted the police once more you are taking your chances with your life and other lives including the police officers involved.

That is why most of us who are not insane and who tend to be law abiding have little to worry about from the police as unlike Mr. Garnett we do pull over for a police officer and do not placed everyone else life on the highway at risk by engaging the police in a high speed pursuit.

Mr. Garnett by his very action of causing a pursuit alone could have ended up killings not only adults but children using that roadways that day.

Too bad that Garnett, Sr did not teach his son to obey the police as if he did his son would be alive today and no others would had have their lives placed at risk.
carloslebaron
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 07:32 am
@BillRM,
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I find it interesting that all these deaths would not had occur if the "victim" have obey the police from the start of the encounter with them.

When you resisted the police once more you are taking your chances with your life and other lives including the police officers involved.


Yup.

http://able2know.org/topic/214214-9#post-5903008

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This killing is just an unfortunate case where the suspect or criminal decided to attack the police officer rather than comply with the orders from police to surrender and be arrested without opposition.

The best to be done, is letting police to do their job when they arrest you, even if they are wrong 100%, just let them do their job.

You will have the opportunity to show them wrong later on, and receive a huge compensation if you hire one of those greedy corrupt attorneys. But, you resisting the arrest might cause at the end, the need of a special tailor to make you a pajama made of wood.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 10:18 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
I made one very short comment


About child pornography and how you believe you're a victim because you can't watch it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 10:42 am
@izzythepush,
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About child pornography and how you believe you're a victim because you can't watch it.


What drugs are you taking my silly friend that allowed you do come up with the above statement?

Once more please explained to all of us why you have defended charging a 12 years old and a 13 years old under the child porn laws?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 10:42 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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I've spoken out in favour of protecting children from creepy perverts


Unless their Muslims.


Learn the difference between "they're" and "their", cj. You sound like an ignoramus when you get those wrong.

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 10:46 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Learn the difference between "they're" and "their", cj. You sound like an ignoramus when you get those wrong.


LOL in my opinion the contents of his anti-Muslims postings, would cause most of us to reach such an opinion without needing the aid of grammar errors.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 11:17 am
@BillRM,
Absolute nonsense, and you're posting this crap to try to hide the fact that you are obsessed with child pornography and try to bring it up at every opportunity.

This is what I wrote, (edited from two of my posts.) If anyone wants to follow the entire conversation they can follow the link.

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Unlike you I don't obsessively follow different countries' child exploitation and pornography laws. However, I don't think any country's laws are designed to criminalise children, but to protect them from the sort of adults who obsessively follow different countries' child exploitation and pornography laws.
Your cases do not detail any sentencing. If children as young as 12 and 13 are sending such material they obviously have had their value system warped in some way. Chances are there's an abuser in the shadows. Perhaps with your judicial system prosecution is the best way to protect the children.
It's still a straw man, you're bothered about it for purely selfish reasons.
You still won't answer the question.

http://able2know.org/topic/270457-1#post-5909168

You'll see that I have not supported charging children at all unless it's the only way of protecting them from abusers. It's still a straw man, nobody in their right mind would believe your ridiculous claims that you're somehow concerned about the welfare of children. You were caught in a park with a box of kittens, you described someone caught on a plane watching child abuse so graphic that witnesses required counselling as a victim. Not once did you show any concern for the children being abused. When you heard of the case where a father killed his 13 year old daughter's abuser you blamed the 13 year old girl, the victim in all this, making the laughable allegation, in an extremely conservative society where very few men could have had access to her, that she had a lover she was protecting. And you never miss an opportunity to bring up child pornography regardless of its relevance to the thread topic.

You're the one high on drugs if you think anyone believes your fantastical cover stories, about being bothered about the welfare of minors or rehousing cats.

You still refuse to answer the question. What age do you think is too young for photographs of a minor's naked body to be viewed by someone like you?

Too difficult eh? Scared you might let people know what you're really like? Don't worry most people are quite capable of joining up the dots.

How about this question? Should a man of your age be prosecuted for knowingly viewing a picture of a naked teen taken 1 day before their 18th birthday? That shouldn't be too hard even for you.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 11:18 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Learn the difference between "they're" and "their", cj. You sound like an ignoramus when you get those wrong.


He's not the only one.

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Once more please explained to all of
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 12:03 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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You sound like an ignoramus when you get those wrong.


You sound pretty much the same.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 12:46 pm
@coldjoint,
Check the grammar in this article. While your at it you will see how the DOJ would like to see racial division flourish.
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Race Baiting And Ferguson


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The most recent news from Ferguson concerns what Eric Holder has rightly called the “ambush shooting” of two police officers outside the city’s police department. This incident occurred in the wake of two detailed reports released by the Department of Justice. The first report deals in depth with the shooting of Michael Brown by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. The report recommended that the case against him be closed. The second DOJ report contained a scathing indictment of the sad state of affairs within the entire criminal justice system of Ferguson. The combined effect of these two reports is likely to make matters worse in Ferguson by combining the back-handed exoneration of Darren Wilson with the unstinting condemnation of the City of Ferguson.

Let’s start with the DOJ report that exonerated Wilson. The federal prosecutors ran an exhaustive review of all the physical, forensic, and testimonial evidence in the case. It is necessary to state its final conclusion in full: “Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights statute, 18 U.S.C. § 242, which prohibits uses of deadly force that are ‘objectively unreasonable,’ as defined by the United States Supreme Court. The evidence, when viewed as a whole, does not support the conclusion that Wilson’s uses of deadly force were “objectively unreasonable” under the Supreme Court’s definition. Accordingly, under the governing federal law and relevant standards set forth in the USAM [United States Attorneys’ Manual], it is not appropriate to present this matter to a federal grand jury for indictment, and it should therefore be closed without prosecution.”

The legal conclusion is surely correct, but the tone of the report’s findings are slanted against Wilson. It is not just the case that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution. It is that, beyond a reasonable doubt, the evidence supports that Wilson’s conduct was fully justified. During the initial encounter, Brown had tried to wrest Wilson’s gun from him by reaching into Wilson’s Chevy Tahoe SUV. Wilson’s story was corroborated, to quote the report, “by bruising on Wilson’s jaw and scratches on his neck, the presence of Brown’s DNA on Wilson’s collar, shirt, and pants, and Wilson’s DNA on Brown’s palm.” Later on, the evidence also showed that Brown was running toward Wilson at the time Wilson fired the fatal shots, not knowing whether Brown was armed or not. The incident was far clearer than the oft-ticklish situations in which the courts have to decide whether a police officer used excessive force against a person who was resisting arrest, as with the controversial grand jury decision not to indict any police officer for the killing of Eric Garner.

What the DOJ now has to do is to acknowledge that the killing of Michael Brown was a justifiable homicide. It must abandon its contrived legalisms and defend Wilson, by condemning unequivocally the entire misguided campaign against him, which resulted in threats against his life and forced his resignation from the police force. Eric Holder owes Wilson an apology for the unnecessary anguish that Wilson has suffered. As the Attorney General for all Americans, he must tell the protestors once and for all that their campaign has been thoroughly misguided from start to finish, and that their continued protests should stop in the interests of civic peace and racial harmony. In light of the past vilification of Wilson, it is not enough for the DOJ to publish the report, and not trumpet its conclusions. It is necessary to put that report front and center in the public debate so that everyone now understands that Wilson behaved properly throughout the entire incident.

The situation is made worse with the publication of the second DOJ report which offers a top-to-bottom condemnation of Ferguson’s criminal justice system. This report was clearly prompted by the belief that Wilson’s killing of Michael Brown was the result of structural problems in Ferguson. But why pick on Ferguson after Wilson was exonerated? It would be one thing to argue that the illegal killing of Michael Brown stemmed from a corrupt and racist culture inside that department. But once it is established that Wilson was fully justified in acting as he did, it is impossible to explain how the culture and norms of the police could have contributed to any illegal act. Indeed, the only plausible inference cuts the opposite way. The ability of Wilson to handle himself well under extreme pressure reflects approvingly on his conduct and on the ethos of the Ferguson Police Department.

In this case, however, the DOJ was determined to make a big deal out of the various misdeeds of the Department. In so doing, it set back race relations in the United States by sending out the unmistakable message that while the DOJ could not get Wilson, it could surely get the city for which he had worked. The Ferguson report gets off on the wrong foot by leading with the claim that “Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs.” That basic orientation, the report continues, leads the police to concentrate on collecting revenue from traffic offenses in order to fill any hole in the Ferguson budget left by a shortfall in sales tax collection. It then further chides the city for sending out arrest warrants for individual ticket holders to meet court dates and to pay for their offenses.

At this point, the key question is whether Ferguson is alone in its practices, or if there are other cities that do the same thing. Given the financial pressures on all cities, Ferguson does not stand alone. If it acts in violation of the public trust, then so do all other cities. Why then pick out Ferguson for special condemnation? It is well known that various form of asset forfeiture are common across the United States. The practices are condemned on all sides of the political spectrum. The liberal American Civil Liberties, for example, begins its Blog of Rights on the subject of Asset Forfeiture Abuse, by noting: “Across the country, law enforcement agents stop motorists—predominantly people of color—and seize the money in their possession simply by asserting that they believe the money is connected to some illegal activity, even without ever pursuing criminal charges. Under federal law and the laws of most states, they are entitled to keep the money they seize, which goes to fill police department coffers, pay salaries, buy new equipment, and fund other perks for the officers.”

The libertarian Institute for Justice harps on the same message in its report “Policing for Profit: The Abuse of Civil Asset Forfeiture.” And most ironically, it was only this January that Holder himself “barred local and state police from using federal law to seize cash, cars and other property without evidence that a crime occurred.” Any balanced report on the situation in Ferguson should ask whether the city is worse off than other state and local governments. Yet nothing suggests that it is, let alone that some culture of revenue collection leads to the improper use of deadly force.

The DOJ report is even odder for its suggestion that it is improper for Ferguson, or any other city, to issue arrest warrants for those who do not pay their fines. Clearly, the entire system will fall apart if parties who receive tickets for traffic violations ignore them with impunity. Some of these tickets at least are given for offenses that do have an adverse impact on public safety, so it seems absurd to think that it is improper to demand their collection. No other state or local government should yield to that practice, so why should Ferguson?

The evidence is no better when the DOJ resorts to statistical evidence to show that the police force has behaved in an improper way because “African Americans experience disparate impact in nearly every aspect of Ferguson’s law enforcement system. Despite making up 67% of the population, African Americans accounted for 85% of FPD’s traffic stops, 90% of FPD’s citations, and 93% of FPD’s arrests from 2012 to 2014.”

The point here represents a gross abuse of statistical evidence for two reasons. First, the disparity in arrests for various offenses ignores one question that matters: did African Americans commit these various offenses at a higher rate than the rest of the population? If they did, then the evidence is perfectly consistent with even-handed enforcement. Second, the report gives no information about the arrest rates in other communities. As John Lott has noted, “The Bureau of Justice Statistics’ 2011 Police-Public Contact Survey indicates that, nationwide, blacks were 31 percent more likely than whites to be pulled over for a traffic stop.” If so, then the Ferguson numbers are consistent with national norms, and thus do not show any distinctive form of racial bias.[/u]



Finally, the DOJ report points to the presence of some emails from police officials that “stereotype” African Americans. But here, again, it is important to note that isolated emails from various officials, however reprehensible in and of themselves, do not indicate any pervasive forms of misbehavior that suffices to indict an entire police force. Nor is there any evidence that these offensive emails sent between 2008 and 2011 indicate present abuse that could have contributed to poor police practices.

The two DOJ reports do not cohere. The first shows that Wilson’s use of force against Michael Brown was fully justified. The second uses that incident to launch a scathing attack against Ferguson, leading to the resignation of its key officials for conduct that looks on balance to be no better or worse than that in other cities around the country. The serious consequence of the second high-profile report is to keep alive the image that racial injustice is alive and well in the United States. What the report fails to understand is that it is as dangerous to exaggerate the risk of racial injustice as it is to ignore it. In a sad sense, the overheated DOJ report contributes to the inflamed atmosphere that led to the most recent shootings in Ferguson.


http://www.hoover.org/research/race-baiting-and-ferguson#.VQgX_uGnjZ0.twitter
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 03:19 pm
@izzythepush,
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Perhaps with your judicial system prosecution is the best way to protect the children.


Prosecuting two very young children are not a mean to protected them!!!!!!!!!

Sorry dear giving those two children a sexual criminal record even a "seal" criminal record is not aiding them in the US or any other justice system.

Those records are not completely seal for example if either one of them wish to join the military it would likely come out in a background check.

In any case, the state have the power to order any treatment or even removed them from their families without charging those children.

As I stated laws sold to protected children are in many cases are being used to harm those very children.

But you do not give a **** as no matter how unreasonable a law is written or enforced as long as it have the emotional tag of protecting children you are all for it.


izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 03:32 pm
@BillRM,
I don't know much about your judicial system. You're the one who has a thing about naked pictures of minors. Your hypocrisy lies in the fact that you choose this isolated example as proof that the system is failing. Also there's no links, nothing to say what actually happened to the individuals in question. Were they in fact punished or removed from abuse?

These minors are the only ones you've shown any 'concern' for. You showed absolutely none for the children whose images were being viewed by the pervert on the plane. Worse that that you suggested they were nothing more than holiday movies of his own kids when they were in fact graphic images of abuse.

Now you may think that your senile, slobbering prose actually makes a point, and it does, but not the one you intended. Namely the only people who would believe such nonsense are mental defectives who can't even string a couple of words together.

And you've not answered either question. Here's another one, have you been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, senile dementia, or recently suffered a stroke, because it would explain a great deal.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 05:01 pm
@izzythepush,
Hey you two, knock it off. Your stepping on my misspelling toes.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 06:58 pm
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Armed Black Panthers Call for Murder of Cops at Open Carry March – DOJ Silent

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/armed-black-panthers-call-for-murder-of-cops-at-open-carry-march-doj-silent/#uE9M0epkm3e4e1HZ.99
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Sadly, this is only going to continue because America seems to be more pleased with rhetoric they agree with coming from politicians than they do actually getting resolve and justice from them.

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2015 07:01 pm
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Why Don’t Sharpton and Holder Stand Up for These Black Lives?

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In just 11 days, America lost five black law enforcement officers while they were serving in the line of duty. Between March 4, 2015 and March 15, 2015, law enforcement officers Terence Avery Green, Robert Wilson, Brennan Rabain, Josie Wells, and Darryl Wallace all died heroically and yet Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Eric Holder and President Obama have remained silent. While the term “black lives matter” has become the “police brutality” rallying cry for many on the left, where is the same concern for our nation’s African American police officers and law enforcement agents who work to serve and protect the citizens?


Lying race baiting bastards underlined.

Read more: http://www.hannity.com/articles/news-476261/why-dont-sharpton-and-holder-stand-13416731/#ixzz3Uh89vHB3



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revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2015 11:03 am
Deaf Immigrant Jailed 6 Weeks With No Access to Interpreter

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Maj. David Kidwell, director of the jail for the sheriff, also declined to comment specifically on Zemedagegehu's care, but generally defended the use of a TTY machine.

"It gets used, absolutely. It's an accepted practice, and we've had great success with it," he said.

On March 14, 2014, Zemedagegehu struck a plea deal, pleading guilty to lesser misdemeanor charges in exchange for time served. Zemedagegehu says he only took the deal to get of jail, and that he didn't steal the iPad.

Zemedagegehu's public defender filed a motion after the guilty plea seeking to have the conviction overturned, saying prosecutors failed to turn over evidence that the man who claimed his iPad was stolen actually had found it some time before the guilty plea. Prosecutors deny withholding evidence.

A judge refused to overturn the conviction, saying the appeal had been filed too late.

Zemedagegehu said he doesn't understand why it was so difficult for the legal system to accommodate him with an interpreter.

"They're doing this 25 years after the Americans with Disabilities Act was passed. They know better," he said.

Caroline Jackson, an attorney with the National Association of the Deaf, who is helping on Zemedagegehu's case, said cases like his are "distressingly common. There's an assumption that persons behind bars have no rights."

The ADA itself does not spell out exactly what kind of accommodations a jail must make for deaf inmates. But since the law was passed, several lawsuits have addressed similar issues. In 2010, the Virginia Department of Corrections reached a settlement requiring it to provide qualified interpreters during the booking process and when providing medical care, among other things.

Doyel said the county jail, which isn't part of the state prisons system, has passed audits conducted by the state Department of Corrections and has received accreditation from outside groups.

Larry Tanenbaum, a lawyer with Akin Gump, the firm that took Zemedagegehu's lawsuit on a pro bono basis, said he thinks the jail failed to meets its standards in its incarceration of his client.

"To me, it's a matter of human kindness. You see a person in your care who's lost. How do you not help him?" Tanenbaum asked.


Not sure this belongs here, but it just turned my stomach when I saw it a while ago.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2015 11:15 am
@revelette2,
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Not sure this belongs here, but it just turned my stomach when I saw it a while ago.


And Sharpton didn't?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2015 11:19 am
@coldjoint,
If you want to see what turns decent people's stomachs look in a mirror. You're a low life moronic bigot. There's things crawling in the mud that are higher up the evolutionary ladder than you.
NSFW (view)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2015 11:28 am
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Hoop Skirts Banned as Racist


More progressive and liberal stupidity.
http://moonbattery.com/graphics/hoop-skirt.jpg
Racist?
http://moonbattery.com/?p=56330
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