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Americans in Iraq Attacked W Bomb Containing Nerve Gas (WMD)

 
 
Tarantulas
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2004 10:42 am
Heh heh...

Quote:
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."

THEODORE ROOSEVELT
(Paris Sorbonne,1910)
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Fedral
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2004 10:45 am
Take it easy panzade,

The first time I spoke this aloud was to my cousins wife (whom I love dearly even though she IS a Canadian :wink: )

I used to point out the coins of Canada as proof that Canada is merely 'USA Lite' (All the advantages of the USA with one third less guilt) I showed her that Canadian coins were the exact same size of their American counterparts so it would be easy on the Canadians when the 'Assimilation' was complete. Laughing

Usually after one of these rants, she would end up throwing something at my head. (There was a direct correlation between HOW mad I had made her and the weight/sharpness of said object Shocked )

Keep in mind, I love Canadians. I used to spend a few weeks each summer with my Aunt and Uncle in Guelph Ontario. The area was beautiful, the streets were clean and the people were nice... too nice...

Knowing that, even at 14, I was sure I could kick the ass of every Canadian I had met. :wink:

Just so you Canadians understand ... we Americans love you Canadians a LOT more than you love us...

You see us as a giant clumsy roommate, crashing around the downstairs area of the house we live in and generally making a mess of things...

We see you as the slightly effeminate roommate that we have to keep from getting his ass kicked every time we hit the local bars. Laughing
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2004 10:47 am
Fedral wrote:
You see us as a giant clumsy roommate, crashing around the downstairs area of the house we live in and generally making a mess of things...

We see you as the slightly effeminate roommate that we have to keep from getting his ass kicked every time we hit the bar. Laughing


That is really good.
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mporter
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2004 09:24 pm
McGentrix- Mr. Blatham speaks about the US, in its foreign affairs, having made enemies.

As you have said: "Overhyped leftist BS"

Mr. Blatham apparently has never heard of the Marshall Plan. Was it to our benefit? Of course.

Did it help Europe recover and help keep parts of Europe out of the hands of the Soviet Union?

Of course.

I am very much afraid that Fedral is correct. The Canadian Guilt Syndrome is at work. In some cases, parts of the syndrome may be involved with a full blown case of inferiority feelings.

When I hear blustering coming from Non-Americans, I am sometimes reminded of the football fan who screams to the quarterback-
"You dope, you missed the receiver"

The football fan( here read Canadian) couldn't throw a pass to save his life and would probably be smashed by some giant linemen.

But of course, the loudmouths in the stands are always there. We call them "Monday Morning Quarterbacks."
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 08:38 am
Iraq's WMDs Find Us

By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 21, 2004

It's beginning to look as if we don't have to find the missing Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs) after all - they appear to have found us.

What is Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the antiwar crowd going to say now that this 155 mm shell -- with four liters of deadly Sarin gas, enough to kill thousands of people -- landed on our feet in Baghdad?

The shell was specifically designed to be a "binary chemical projectile," having two chambers that keep the chemical components inside separate until they are fired by an artillery piece. In other words it was not just an ordinary artillery round filled with Sarin gas.

Naturally this bombshell of a development in the WMD controversy was all but ignored by the liberal mass media. Had John Kerry been President and this same thing had happened, you can bet that it would have been all over the front pages, and the network news broadcasts would be telling the world that President Kerry had found the WMDs. Hallelujah!

But with George Bush in the White House it's just another ho-hum news story.

As the House Armed Services Committee has observed, the news regarding sarin and mustard gas discoveries in Iraq serve to remind us that Saddam Hussein did have a vigorous WMDs program. And there isn't a shred of evidence that he ever destroyed them. So where did they go?

Consider this: On April 17, Jordan's King Abdullah said that captured vehicles containing deadly chemical weapons and poison gas -- part of an al-Qaeda bomb plot -- came from Syria, which former U.S. weapons inspector David Kay named last year as a likely repository for Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Last year Kay told Congress that U.S. satellite surveillance showed substantial vehicular traffic going from Iraq to Syria just prior to the U.S. attack on March 19, 2003. While cautioning that investigators couldn't be sure the cargo contained WMDs, one of his top advisers described the evidence as "unquestionable."

This latest discovery in Jordan was all but ignored by the liberal media. They'd rather concentrate on trying to keep the prisoner abuse scandal alive in the hopes it will damage the President's chances of re-election.

I was talking about Iraq with Lt. Gen. David D. McKiernan, author of the new book The End Game, on my radio show the other day. We discussed the fact that we have already uncovered 1 million metric tons of ammunition in Iraq. Now to put that in perspective, the U.S. has 1.5 million metric tons. And where is the news story about that startling fact? Little Iraq had two-thirds the amount of ammo possessed by the mighty U.S.?

According to the House Armed Services Committee, "By Hussein's own admission, Iraq possessed thousands of chemical weapons and tons of chemical weapon agents:

• Some 4,000 tons of ingredients to produce poison gas, including sarin.
• 550 artillery shells filled with mustard gas.
• At least 3.9 tons of VX, a deadly nerve gas, and 805 tons of precursor ingredients for the production of more VX.
• 8,500 liters of anthrax.
• 500 bombs fitted with parachutes for the purpose of delivering poison gas or germ payloads.
• 107,500 casings for chemical weapons.
• At least 157 aerial bombs filled with germ agents.
• 25 missile warheads containing germ agents (anthrax, aflatoxin, and botulinum).

"In each case, Hussein claimed to have destroyed the weapons and materials of mass destruction in accordance with U.N. resolutions. But the regime, which kept tens of thousands of pages of detailed information about its illegal weapons of mass destruction programs, offered no proof of their destruction?-not a piece of paper convincingly documenting the alleged destruction, not a dismantlement site, not a single smashed chemical warfare bomb."

It's no wonder Sen. Kerry recently speculated that WMDs may soon be found, but I don't think he believed that while we were looking they'd find us.

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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:26 am
McGentrix wrote:
so that's why we have all those congressional committees and hearings? Because "Americans will NOT face up to the negative consequences for others of American mistakes and policies"?

That is so much over-hyped leftist BS.

I'd like to see any country outside the G-8 step up as much as the US has. Hell, I'd like to see some of the countries in the G-8 step up!


Those hearings are internally directed. They are very laudable, and I wish they were even more merciless in exacting details, but they address only whether America is acting consistent to it's own principles and codes.

Take the 9-11 commission. First, let's acknowledge that the administration didn't want it, and acted so as to obstruct it. Second, the scope of it is limited to 'how did we mess up such that the attack happened?'.

The question of 'why do they hate us' or 'what role have we played in our foreign policy which might have concentrated such animosity towards us?'...such questions gets NO public airing in this or any other commission. It's certainly discussed elsewhere, in the State Department, in political journals, etc...but not in public commissions.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:45 am
kickycan wrote:
Fedral wrote:
You see us as a giant clumsy roommate, crashing around the downstairs area of the house we live in and generally making a mess of things...

We see you as the slightly effeminate roommate that we have to keep from getting his ass kicked every time we hit the bar. Laughing


That is really good.


There's some really deep sex/gender issues involved with America's self-identity. From making Iraqi prisoners wear women's underwear to calling those who criticize the war "effeminate", ISSUES just scream at you ... :wink:
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:50 am
we won't even talk about the gun thing
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:51 am
Do not confuse America's self -identity with what some Americans do and I won't confuse everyone in the Netherlands as working in the Red light district doing drugs.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:53 am
Tarantulas wrote:
kickycan wrote:
I can't believe there are still some people who think this war was justified. Rolling Eyes

Actually the vast majority of Iraqis think the war was justified, if you can believe the polls.


"Vast majority"? Really? In what poll?

Even back in March (scroll up that thread for more details on the poll), only a plurality of mere 48% of Iraqis thought the US-led invasion of Iraq was "absolutely" or "somewhat" right.

And that was before the prison abuse scandal, before "Falluja", before ... etc.

Sorry but you hit my BS detector there.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2004 09:56 am
McGentrix wrote:
Do not confuse America's self -identity with what some Americans do and I won't confuse everyone in the Netherlands as working in the Red light district doing drugs.


Hey don't dis my lifestyle ... it earns a lot of money and I write my best posts when I'm high ...

:wink:
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