Israel's Reality

rivals the number killed in the name of the god of any other book.

The Tears of Jihad
After failing as a preacher/prophet Mohammed turned from religion to politics and jihad. His political plan worked and he conquered all of Arabia. Islam has been at war ever sense. These figures are a rough estimate of the death of kafirs through the political use of jihad.

Africa
Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa. Roughly, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have the death of about 120 million people.
120 million Africans killed

Christians
The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million, while another 50 million died in wars by jihad.
60 million Christians killed

Hindus
The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad.
80 million Hindus killed

Buddhists
Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million.
10 million Buddhists killed

Total 270,000,000 killed.

This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.

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rivals the number killed in the name of the god of any other book.

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The Tears of Jihad
After failing as a preacher/prophet Mohammed turned from religion to politics and jihad. His political plan worked and he conquered all of Arabia. Islam has been at war ever sense. These figures are a rough estimate of the death of kafirs through the political use of jihad.

Africa
Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa. Roughly, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have the death of about 120 million people.
120 million Africans killed

Christians
The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million, while another 50 million died in wars by jihad.
60 million Christians killed

Hindus
The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad.
80 million Hindus killed

Buddhists
Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million.
10 million Buddhists killed

Total 270,000,000 killed.

This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.

Got any numbers, or just guessing?

http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/an-ethical-basis-for-war-against-political-islam-part-5/

C'mon, Buttflake!

When people first learn about the actual doctrine contained in the Trilogy, a frequent response is that Islam needs a reformation like Christianity had.
First, what does it matter if the religion reforms or not? It is the politics that produce fear.

The doctrine of Islam is proclaimed to be eternal, universal and perfect. Eternal means unchanging and final. Mohammed is the final and last prophet of Allah. Universal means that is applies to all of the world and perfect means that the doctrine needs no change.

A huge problem with proposing Islamic reformation is its amount of political doctrine. About two thirds of the Koran of Mecca deals with condemning kafirs to Hell for merely disagreeing with Mohammed. Over 50% of the Koran of Medina deals with hypocrites and jihad against kafirs. Nearly 75% of the Sira deals with jihad. About 20% of the Hadith by Bukhari is about jihad. Politics is the majority of the doctrine and it is all violent. Removing this doctrine would destroy political Islam. There is no Islam without politics.

Kafirs propose an Islamic reform based upon the idea that the horrible acts of Islam are medieval, tribal customs and in modern times we don't do that kind of thing. They are a thing of the past.

But for a Muslim, the Koran is perfect and eternal. And the Koran relentlessly advances the idea that the Sunna (the words and deeds of Mohammed) is the ideal mode of Islamic behavior. Both the Koran and the Hadith are very clear that the medieval tribal actions are the ideal for humanity and rather than being put in the dust bin of history, they are the perfect guidance for today.

The dilemma of removing medieval tribalism is that much of the Trilogy is medieval tribalism. So if you reform political Islam by taking out the old tribal doctrine, where do you stop? What is the guidance for which old, tribal acts of Mohammed are not applicable for today? You can't take it all out. Without medieval tribalism there is basically no Islam.

And what body of Islam has the authority to reform it? There is no such authority. Some group of Muslims might decide to drop all of the violent and oppressive political doctrine, but what authority would they have to tell any other Muslim to follow them?

Why would any Muslim want reform? Demographic jihad (immigration and high birth rates) will cause Europe to be Islamic in less than a century. Islam is winning. Why reform a winner?

Islam is detailed down to the smallest action of life and living. And there is a vast quantity of detail that allows very little room for interpretation or change, let alone reformation.

There is the matter of Islamic dualistic ethics. How do you reform the ethical system that is at the core of Islam?

And lastly, Islam discourages criticism of another Muslim or the doctrine. Self criticism of Islam is simple not done. All fault always lies with the kafirs. How can there be reform without self-criticism?

The doctrine of Islam can not be reformed any more than a triangle can be reformed by changing the number of sides. It is logically impossible. Islamic doctrine is defined as unchanging and beyond reform. The Koran is perfect and eternal. Mohammed is the final prophet and the ideal model for all humanity for all times. The reformation of Islam is logically impossible due to the way the doctrine is defined.

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C'mon, Buttflake!

Do you have dates for those? Any happen in this century? You c'mon. You are in denial.

.except that it allows you to ignore that which should not be ignored...

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.except that it allows you to ignore that which should not be ignored...

This is what is ignored

Another thing being ignored is the effect of the creation of the state of Israel in that area...and what it has done to relations between the United States and almost all of the Arab countries.

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Another thing being ignored is the effect of the creation of the state of Israel in that area...and what it has done to relations between the United States and almost all of the Arab countries.

Islamists attacked us when Jefferson was president. That is what they do. It has nothing to do with our foreign policy. It is Islamic doctrine.

The real problem with modern Islam finds its genesis in the creation of the state of Israel. The US...by being such a strong advocate of Israel...has, in effect, soured the Islamic world on the entire of the West.

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The real problem with modern Islam finds its genesis in the creation of the state of Israel. The US...by being such a strong advocate of Israel...has, in effect, soured the Islamic world on the entire of the West.

The MB(Muslim Brotherhood) was established in the 1920s long before Israel became reality. It is a violent doctrine which says Muslims are superior and that Islam will rule the world. And any means necessary including terror,deceit, and intimidation all sanctioned by Islam. Actually an extension of Muhammeds commands.

And there is no modern Islam. The killing and terror should prove that there is only Islam.

Do not talk about things you know nothing about.

There will be hatred and killing for as long as the state of Israel exists in that area...and any Arabs also live there. Either all the Arabs have to be killed...or the state of Israel has to cease to exist there.

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There will be hatred and killing for as long as the state of Israel exists in that area...and any Arabs also live there. Either all the Arabs have to be killed...or the state of Israel has to cease to exist there.

If the Arabs are that dumb I guess they will just have to keep dying in large numbers for the foreseeable future of course you would think after a few generations that stupidity would be breed out of them.

Islamists attacked us when Jefferson was president. That is what they do. It has nothing to do with our foreign policy. It is Islamic doctrine.

These numbers are fake.

Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.

'Islam' did not run the European slave trade and is not responsible for it. 'Judaism' and 'Christianity' ran that trade. You'd knew that if you were not a sad little hater.

Actually, if you started looking into the history of US meddling (ie US Foreign Policy) in the Middle East, you would start to see that 'Islamic Doctrine' is arguably not the major contributor to the Middle Eastern Muslims hatred of the US.

These numbers are fake.