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Israel's Reality

 
 
RABEL222
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 06:56 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
The Torah, the Koran, the Bible. Just books writen by men in an attempt to justify the things that they are doing knowing they are doing wrong. In other words bull ****.
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hingehead
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 07:08 pm
@buttflake,
This is possibly the stupidest ******* thing I have ever seen.

Now answer the same question for everyone of these:

http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/newcountries.htm

Before they gained independence. For that matter answer them for the USA before 1770.

Answer it for Israel before 1948.

East Timor before 2002.

Lines on maps don't know about cultures and societies and self determination.

You truly are small minded. Not sure if it's wilfull or you have no choice.
buttflake
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:34 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
This is possibly the stupidest ******* thing I have ever seen.


Don't you mean you can't answer the questions. That is all you have to say. Your link is nothing but a distraction.
Olivier5
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:40 pm
@BillRM,
France doesn't like to ban political movements. That typically results in their re-appearance under another name so it's useless or counter-productive. Best to keep tabs on them and prosecute individuals who commit crimes.
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hingehead
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:40 pm
@buttflake,
A distraction for a monopole brain like yours you twat.

I mean you can ask those answerless questions about any country before it's a country. It does not mean it shouldn't be a country.

Thick or wilfully ignorant? - you still haven't answered my question.
buttflake
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:50 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
A distraction for a monopole brain like yours you twat.


Someone is mad.

Quote:
It does not mean it shouldn't be a country.


So you are admitting Palestine was never a country.
hingehead
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:13 pm
@buttflake,
I'm admitting that the USA was never a country until it formed. Nor was Israel. Will you admit that?

I'm admitting that the residents of the region that has been known as Palestine for literally millenia, finally having been freed of foreign rule (British, and Ottoman prior (and a bunch before that)) were invaded by a bunch of European colonisers who have systematically disposessed them from their ancestral land.

Damn right I'm mad - you black and white thinkers are the cause of most evil in the world - your wilfull lack of understanding of both sides of the story make you subhuman in my world view. That you have to keep changing a2k handles do get anyone to see your posts says volumes about your mental equanimity.

You'll need another one coz you're ignored again you pathetic one trick pony.

buttflake
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:17 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
You'll need another one coz you're ignored again you pathetic one trick pony.


Hope someone tells you I said thanks.
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BillRM
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:22 pm
@hingehead,
Black and white?

Well any people who fight conflicts with suicide bombing of bus loads of men, women and children and then throw block parties when someone from the neighborhood manage to do such mass murders are pure black with no white and no gay in the picture.

Or for that matter placing their own women and children in harm way to try to protected military targets is pure black.
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hingehead
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 10:17 pm
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/1/1406862927731/firstdogterriblethings700w.jpg
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buttflake
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 08:36 am
Quote:
"I'm not sure the people who need to hear this will ever hear it..."
Topics:

This is What You are Really Telling Us - By Naomi Ragen

I'm not sure the people who need to hear this will ever hear it, but I want my conscience to be clear that I said it to them.

Dear Human Rights Activist, Leftist Liberal, Crying-for-the-poor-children, Israel-hating, Hamas-forgiving, marcher, celebrity, news anchor, journalist, writer, media star, politician, head of state. We have have seen you marching along the streets of Europe, America, and the Middle East with your signs and kfirs and Palestinian flags. We have heard you screaming to whoever will listen that Jews and Israelis are murderers, war criminals, and baby killers.

You think you are telling us who we are. But actually, you are telling us who you are.

1) You are telling us that you are ignorant.

That you don't understand that Hamas is a terror organization that took over a territory that Israel removed all its settlers from a decade ago and with good will turned over to the Palestinians, and that in return the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas, a terror organization, to rule them, and that Hamas has been logging bombs at Israeli civilians trying to kill them ever since.

2) You are telling us you don't really care about Palestinans or their children.

Because by supporting Hamas, you are supporting the use of Palestinians as human shields, the use of Palestinian children to dig terror tunnels in which 160 have died, and the summary execution of Palestinians by Hamas thugs whenever they open their mouths to protest the use of their homes, school, mosques, or hospitals as weapons caches and missile launching sites.


3) You are telling us that you are in favor of genocide.

Anyone who does not support Israel in this just war against Hamas, who is a genocidal terrorist organization that clearly says in their charter they want to destroy all Jews, is in fact in favor of genocide. You are telling us that you not only agree with the idea, but the practice, as Hamas is now attempting (without much success, thank God) by bombing Israelis and attempting mass murders and kidnappings through countless underground tunnels created only for that purpose. You are telling us you don't think Israelis have a right to live and defend their children by fighting back.
You are telling us you want us dead.

4) You are telling us that you hate Jews, not just Israelis.

Because otherwise, why would you march along, support, and agree with people who beat up Jews, shoot Jewish children, destroy synagogues, and smash Jewish businesses all over the world, just like the Nazis?

5) You are telling us that you are a racist and a hater.

Just one more of those evil, ignorant, bigoted, small-minded people who hate people they have never met because of their race and religion.

6) You are telling us you are ill-informed, uneducated and/or too stupid or too lazy to read history books.
Because by taking up the stance of the Nazis without even understanding in whose footsteps you are following, you are revealing you don't know where those footsteps led, and the millions and millions of people like yourselves who died because of it.

7) But most of all, you are showing God who you are and the evil that is in your heart.

For that I pity you. Because we Jews believe that God is compassionate and forgiving. But we also believe that if people repeat the same evils as their forefathers, then God's compassion ends for them, and the time for punishment begins.

You are not the first ignorant, bigoted, racist, hateful people to stand against the Jews. But you just might be the last.
By joining your voice and your body with those who hate justice, who love violence, and who follow in the footsteps of the Jew-haters throughout history, you are singling yourself out for the punishment that befalls all such people in history sooner or later. Check your history books on that one. Every people that hated Jews eventually became extinct. The Jews survived.


Looking forward to your next march, your next petition, and your next newscast to see who you are. We already know what you are.


http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2014/08/im_not_sure_the.php
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 09:49 am
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Rabel said: The Torah, the Koran, the Bible. Just books writen by men in an attempt to justify the things that they are doing knowing they are doing wrong. In other words bull ****.

I can't seem to find any bullshit in this-
Jesus said- "Love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor" (Mark 12:30, John 13:34, Matt 25: 37-40)
BillRM
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:01 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Jesus said- "Love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor" (Mark 12:30, John 13:34, Matt 25: 37-40)


You can picked and choose statements from the bible to support any positions you can dream up.
revelette2
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 11:25 am
@buttflake,
Complete and utter hogwash.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 11:43 am
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BillRM said: You can picked and choose statements from the bible to support any positions you can dream up.

I know, fundies and cultists do it all the time but the Bible is onto them-
"Ignorant people distort things, to their own destruction" (2 Peter 3:16/17)

The key is to take things IN CONTEXT!



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Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 11:44 am
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

Complete and utter hogwash.


You are being too kind to call it that, Revelette.

That piece was so warped, it was difficult to read.
buttflake
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 01:33 pm
@revelette2,
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Complete and utter hogwash.


Because it is exactly what you will not face, like so many other realities you write of to excuse after excuse and lie after lie? Deal with it, and admit you are just another hater.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 01:40 pm
Has anybody here come forward yet to suggest a solution to the Israel/Hamas thing, or have I missed it?
buttflake
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 01:45 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtqwIkvCIAEJ2pi.jpg

Technology is to Israels advantage. They are quite good at it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 02:12 pm
@hingehead,
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Re: buttflake (Post 5730498)
This is possibly the stupidest ******* thing I have ever seen.


Wait. Thats not even close to stupidest. Give him a couple of moments there'll more. MUCH more.
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