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Israel's Shame

 
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:02 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
millions sickened from USA WMDs

Balderdash!
BillRM
 
  2  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:06 pm
@oralloy,
Oralloy how can you keep reading JTT nonsense?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:08 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
BillRM wrote:
No I can not understand why Israel just does not put up with those rockets attacks and not try to take out the launching sites with or without humans shields around them.

This silly meme just never dies, does it? Just like all USA propaganda, which gets pounded into empty Bill type brains.

Falsely accusing Bill of stupidity does not change the reality that he is correct.


JTT wrote:
When you bomb apartments and homes, hospitals and safe zones who do you expect to be there?

It doesn't matter one bit who is there. Israel has the right to defend themselves regardless.

That said, the alleged Palestinian casualty figures are as bogus as ever.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:12 pm
@oralloy,
Falsely claiming Bill's opinion are correct needs to be supported by some reliable sources. Your opinion is worth shyt!

BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Falsely claiming Bill's opinion are correct needs to be supported by some reliable sources. Your opinion is worth shyt!


My opinions stand on the rock of both commonsense and logic while your opinions are base only on illogic and your overriding anti-semitism.

footnote you used reliable sources for statements of facts not expression of opinions
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:16 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Oralloy how can you keep reading JTT nonsense?

I wish he would eliminate the name-calling, but I could never hold it against someone for making an honest stand on moral principles, even if that stand is based on mistaken facts.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:22 pm
@oralloy,
To me JTT whole world view is driven by an irrational hatred of the US and he apply this hatred driven world view even to matters that have nothing to do with the US.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2014 10:30 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
To me JTT whole world view is driven by an irrational hatred of the US and he apply this hatred driven world view even to matters that have nothing to do with the US.

If the US really did everything that he believes that we do, that hatred would not be irrational.

I think his attitude is a natural result of his mistaken belief that we commit lots of atrocities.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 08:01 pm
Might be surprised- Turns Out Hamas Likely Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All
. . . the three Israeli teens whose killings gave Netanyahu pretext to attack and invade Gaza.


from Katie Zavadski at the New York Magazine:

When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. "Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay," he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region.

But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all.

BuzzFeed writer Sheera Frenkel was among the first to suggest that it was unlikely that Hamas was behind the deaths of Gilad Shaar, Naftali Frenkel, and Eyal Yifrach. Citing Palestinian sources and experts the field, Frenkel reported that kidnapping three Israeli teens would be a foolish move for Hamas. International experts told her it was likely the work of a local group, acting without concern for the repercussions:

Gershon Baskin pointed out that Hamas has earlier this month signed an agreement to form a unity government with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, bridging, for the first time in seven years, the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank and Gaza.

“They will lose their reconciliation agreement with Abbas if they do take responsibility for the kidnappings,” Baskin added.



Today, she was proven right:

After Israel's top leadership exhaustively blamed Hamas for kidnap of 3 teens, they've now admitted killers were acting as "lone cell."

read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html?mid=twitter_nymag


from Dell Cameron (Daily Dot) on July 25, 2014

The recent explosion of violence in Gaza may have been initially sparked by false or inaccurate claims, according to Israeli police.

The ongoing conflict began last month when three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped from a Jewish settlement in the occupied West Bank. Their bodies were later discovered in a field outside the city of Hebron. Before police were able to determine who was responsible, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu placed blame for the tragic deaths squarely on Hamas, Gaza’s elected political leadership—an accusation that may prove to be false.

On Friday, Chief Inspector Micky Rosenfeld, foreign press spokesman for the Israel Police, reportedly told BBC journalist Jon Donnisonhe that the men responsible for murders were not acting on orders of Hamas leadership. Instead, he said, they are part of a “lone cell.” Further, Inspector Rosenfeld told Donnison that if Hamas’ leadership had ordered the kidnapping, “they'd have known about it in advance.”

If the reported findings of the Israeli Police hold up and Hamas is officially cleared of any wrongdoing in the case of the three kidnapped Israeli teens, Netanyahu and the Israeli government may have to explain why a massive military operation, with an 80 percent rate of civilian casualties, was instigated under a false premise. And if violence in the West Bank continues to spread, the IDF may find itself divided on two fronts.

read: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/israel-gaza-kidnap-false-inaccurate/
BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 08:11 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You got to be kidding me as the military operation now ongoing have nothing to do with the deaths of of the three teenagers but the launching of over 2 thousands missiles and counting.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 09:36 pm
@BillRM,
It's really not about the missiles; the real story is about the number of innocent Palestinians killed.

Quote:
However, three-fourths of the Palestinians killed in more than two weeks of Israel-Hamas fighting were civilians, according to U.N. figures. One in four was a minor, it said.

A Palestinian health official put the death toll at 695 and said more than 4,100 were wounded, with civilian casualties rising sharply since Israel sent tanks and troops into Gaza last week in its first ground operation in five years.


What has these children done to deserve getting killed by the Israelis?
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 09:56 pm
@BillRM,
The Israelis used the murder of the three teens as a pretext to go after Hamas, blaming them for the killings. So, they started to kidnap members of Hamas. Hamas, as the Israelis expected, started to retaliate with rocket launches into Israel and the Israelis used this as a pretext to kill the Palestinians in Gaza.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 10:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I repeat,
Quote:
What has these children done to deserve getting killed by the Israelis?


In what other country will the citizens of that country allow their government to kill innocent children like the Israelis?
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Fri 25 Jul, 2014 10:10 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Might be surprised- Turns Out Hamas Likely Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All
. . . the three Israeli teens whose killings gave Netanyahu pretext to attack and invade Gaza.


This had Mossad's fingerprints smeared all over it.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 02:30 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
In what other country will the citizens of that country allow their government to kill innocent children like the Israelis?


Any country on the earth that is being attacked by over 2000 rocket bombs where the enemy is using their own innocent women and children as shields as to be able to keep sending more bombs to killed their innocent women and children.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 02:37 am
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
So, they started to kidnap members of Hamas.


KIDNAP as in arrested for perhaps having taken part in three killings?
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BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 02:42 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
t's really not about the missiles; the real story is about the number of innocent Palestinians killed.


Yes it is all about the 2000 plus missiles with well over a million pounds of explosives that had been aimed at innocent Israels women and children.
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hawkeye10
 
  3  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 02:53 am
The motherfuckers who run Israel clearly have some screws loose....what is their goal here I wonder because by the looks of it it is to be at war forever, and they are doing their best to radicalize their enemy.
BillRM
 
  2  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 03:00 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
and they are doing their best to radicalize their enemy.


LOL as if the Palestinians need any reason to be radicalize............
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Sat 26 Jul, 2014 03:16 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
and they are doing their best to radicalize their enemy.


LOL as if the Palestinians need any reason to be radicalize............



exactly....The Jews simply refuse to wise up. Bye Bye goes their reputation for skills in profitable manipulation.
 

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