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Israel's Shame

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Will the Jews be happy when they kill 4 million Palestinians with their superior war machine?


Are they trying to catch up to the mmurderous USA, CI?
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Will the Jews be happy when they kill 4 million Palestinians with their superior war machine?


Are they trying to catch up to the mmurderous USA, CI?
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:23 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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But that would leave unresolved the problem of latter man having arrogated the former man's house which instigated the violence in the first place.


I forgot maybe you remember, how armies cross Israel borders looking to drive all the Jews into the sea in 1948 right after they declare themselves a nation?

Was it five or six armies?

So the former man got help from his friends to deal with the problem of the latter man having arrogated the former man's house. It doesn't change the fact that the latter man arrogated the former man's house.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Simple CI they can stop launching missiles and taking other actions to killed Jews and they will get far more then their current situation.

All the steps such as check points everywhere that you and others are complaining about mainly resulted from past bad behaviors of the Palestinian people. If the Palestinian people would stop being a threat to the lives of Jews I am sure that Israels would love to do away with those costly security measures.

If Mexicans was acting in a similar manner on the US border we would be doing the same thing in fact far more then the Israels are doing.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:27 pm
@BillRM,
No, you idiot. The very first move must be made by the Zionists; stop all expansion of settlements, and give all citizens equal rights.

You can't even rationalize simple concepts in your calcified brain. When did you brain die? LOL

BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:28 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
It doesn't change the fact that the latter man arrogated the former man's house.


Bullshit and if Mexico had gone by that theory concerning the US they would had gotten the same results.

But they was bright enough not to take up the offer of Germany to aid them getting back the US southwest by force.

The one time we have a US border town shot up by Mexicans we send the bulk of the US military of the time including the whole "airforce" down to find them.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
No, you idiot. The very first move must be made by the Zionists; stop all expansion of settlements, and give all citizens equal rights.


Sure they are going to trust people who been doing their very best to murder Jewish men, women and children for 70 years or so.

Next the chance of the Palestinians joining with the state of Israel is far less then the same chance as that kind of union between Mexico and the US.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:40 pm
@BillRM,
You don't understand anything do you. 35 newborn babies killed by Israeli soldiers. What had they done?

Israel is illegally occupying the West Bank.

Israel is illegally building settlements on occupied land.

Israel is illegally blockading Gaza.

Israel is the only one that can stop the occupation.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:43 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

But that would leave unresolved the problem of latter man having arrogated the former man's house which instigated the violence in the first place.


"Arrogated" implies total responsibility. You do know the about the Balfour Declaration and the British Mandate. Who do you think the British asked, "Where do you want to go?" (when they queried the Holocaust Survivors). Secular Jews that might have said NYC, or religious Jews? One might make an argument for entrapment. The fact that today few want to hear about all the players, in the decision for the Holocaust survivors to wind up on a patch of sand, is usually not of interest to all those that already have their opinions.
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Will the Jews be happy when they kill 4 million Palestinians with their superior war machine?


You're getting hysterical. No one will kill millions of Palestinians. What is more likely is that millions of Palestinians will assimilate into the culture of Egypt and learn to be peaceful Arabs. They might even learn to like Jews as their employer, since they do not seem to have an entrepreneurial bent. Sort of like CI with a middle eastern flavor.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:53 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
But that would leave unresolved the problem of latter man having arrogated the former man's house which instigated the violence in the first place.


I forgot maybe you remember, how armies cross Israel borders looking to drive all the Jews into the sea in 1948 right after they declare themselves a nation?

Was it five or six armies?

So the former man got help from his friends to deal with the problem of the latter man having arrogated the former man's house. It doesn't change the fact that the latter man arrogated the former man's house.


The house belonged to the Ottoman Empire and then the British. Never was it a Palestinian house. Many of the Palestinians were itinerant Arabs. Sort of like when Southerners move from state to state for a better life, but never leave Dixie.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:00 pm
@Foofie,
Your rationalizations make you look more stupid about property ownership.
How many generations must one live in their homes for it to become their property?
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Your rationalizations make you look more stupid about property ownership.
How many generations must one live in their homes for it to become their property?


I assume you are talking about the Israels as seventy years is four generations or so.

Or are you talking about the American southwest and roughly 175 years or seven or eight generations?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:35 pm
@BillRM,
No, I'm talking about the takeover of property from the Palestinians.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:40 pm
@BillRM,
It doesn't matter, Bill, you are the beneficiary of genocide.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
No, I'm talking about the takeover of property from the Palestinians.


Says CI, sitting at his desk in his house sitting on land stolen by the USA.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well when all the nations in the world go back into history and undo all the changes of ownerships then and only then can you demand the Jews to do so.

I know you think that Jews should not be allow to exist, at least not on the same terms, as everyone else but that is not how it going to turn out.

The Palestinians can either turn away from the path of violence and move forward or they can keep putting their own men women and children in harm way for however many generations it will take for them to wake up and act rationally.

Their current attempts to killed Jews are only resulting in their own people dying as the Israels act in self defense.

The Mexicans was eager for having a war with the US in 184o but it took only one short war for them to accept the facts of life and move forward.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:39 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

But that would leave unresolved the problem of latter man having arrogated the former man's house which instigated the violence in the first place.


"Arrogated" implies total responsibility. You do know the about the Balfour Declaration and the British Mandate. Who do you think the British asked, "Where do you want to go?" (when they queried the Holocaust Survivors). Secular Jews that might have said NYC, or religious Jews? One might make an argument for entrapment. The fact that today few want to hear about all the players, in the decision for the Holocaust survivors to wind up on a patch of sand, is usually not of interest to all those that already have their opinions.

So, the latter man had the abetment of his friends. It does not negate the fact that he arrogated the former man's house.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:40 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Well when all the nations in the world go back into history and undo all the changes of ownerships then and only then can you demand the Jews to do so.


That lame excuse only comes up for the arch criminal USA and its partners in crime. That didn't work after WWII where the USA made a great pretense of being a rule of law country. That excuse doesn't work when the USA wants to make further great pretense that it involves itself in some country to save the oppressed.

The us doesn't even give a rats ass about dupes like you, Bill. They only use you as pawns to advance their vicious and rapacious evil upon the poor of the world.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 02:43 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
But that would leave unresolved the problem of latter man having arrogated the former man's house which instigated the violence in the first place.


I forgot maybe you remember, how armies cross Israel borders looking to drive all the Jews into the sea in 1948 right after they declare themselves a nation?

Was it five or six armies?

So the former man got help from his friends to deal with the problem of the latter man having arrogated the former man's house. It doesn't change the fact that the latter man arrogated the former man's house.


The house belonged to the Ottoman Empire and then the British. Never was it a Palestinian house. Many of the Palestinians were itinerant Arabs. Sort of like when Southerners move from state to state for a better life, but never leave Dixie.

The Ottoman Empire was the mortgager of the former man's house.

Most of the Palestinians were not itinerant Arabs having lived in the towns and villages and cities for generations upon generations.
 

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