28
   

More American War in Iraq?

 
 
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2014 10:00 pm
@georgeob1,
Says the gob that volunteered to participate in the war crimes committed by the USA against the people of SE Asia.
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2014 12:46 am
@JTT,
I heard that commie north vietnam invaded the peaceful south, and America was invited in by south President Diem to try to help stop them.
In other words the commies started the war just like they did in Korea
JTT
 
  0  
Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2014 07:37 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
You've heard a lot of drivel in your life and idiot that you are you swallowed it.
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2014 02:54 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

My main criticism of the USA is that its been pouring cash and super-duper weaponry into Israel for many years.
Why? What has Israel ever done for America?


You are putting the emphasis on the wrong syl-la-ble, in my opinion. The people that run and own America are not folks like you or I. They are the landed gentry, so to speak. They gain from Israel the innovations that are used in multi-national corporations that make the wealthy class richer. Like it or not, Israel is a font of innovation, and the wealthy like it. Unfortunately, many of the western countries are very good at producing technical goods, but sea changing innovations, not so much.

While America allows many diverse peoples to share in its wealth, it is still owned and run by a wealthy class that cares less for the feelings of the modern day peasants (aka, citizens), in my opinion. It has always been that way, whether it was a monarchy with temporal power, or wealthy citizens running the country. One should wake up; in my opinion, much of the masses are living in the 19th century, still lamenting Emancipation, when Jews got citizenship. The truth is that in a century that will likely end with robot soldiers, and other arcane military technology, the U.S. really must swallow their Gentile pride and accept the fact that Jews are innovators. Why? It might have something to do with history and their gene pool in an anti-Semitic Europe.
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2014 03:26 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie brings all the myths about the USA to a crashing thud.
0 Replies
 
Romeo Fabulini
 
  2  
Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2014 12:01 am
Quote:
Romeo said: north vietnam invaded the peaceful south..just like the commies did in Korea
JTT replied: You've heard a lot of drivel in your life and idiot that you are you swallowed it.

Well who was it coming down the Ho Chi Minh trail, Snow White and the seven dwarves?
Romeo Fabulini
 
  2  
Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2014 12:05 am
Quote:
Foofie said: The people that run and own America are not folks like you or I. They are the landed gentry, so to speak. They gain from Israel the innovations that are used in multi-national corporations that make the wealthy class richer.

What "innovations" exactly?
I thought America had plenty of brainy millionnaire businessmen who don't need to go running to Israel for new ideas?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2014 12:12 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Foofie's claim is probably closer to the truth; Israel has the greatest number of scientists and technicians as a percentage of their population - and much greater than the US by double. However, we must also understand that the US has in our population different skills and levels of education.
JTT
 
  0  
Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2014 09:21 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
The people of Vietnam as a whole, an overwhelming whole rose up to throw out the vicious invading horde that was the USA, Australia, ... . The USA was nothing more than a band of vicious terrorists, which is what they have been for their entire existence.

Quote:
America’s involvement in Vietnam, that was to lead to a full-scale military attack on North Vietnam, was all part of the Cold War scenario that had enveloped world politics. In the 1950’s, John Foster Dulles, US Secretary of State, had formulated the Domino Theory. This stated that if one country fell to communism, then its neighbour would and then the neighbour to this country. Such an expansion of communist influence in Southeast Asia was unacceptable to America – even if, as President Eisenhower had pointed out, 80% of those in South Vietnam supported Ho Chi Minh and the Communists in the North.

The stalemate in the Korean War had shown America that their military might could not guarantee success. 142,000 US troops had been lost in the Korean War and Eisenhower knew that he could not sell to the American people the thought of sending US troops back into Southeast Asia – albeit this time to South Vietnam – so soon after the Korean War. He therefore sent to South Vietnam ‘military advisors’ to South Vietnam. At first, this was a very small-scale operation. In June 1954 a 12-man team led by Colonel Edward Lansdale was sent to Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City). They were mainly intelligence officers. Their primary task was persuade people in South Vietnam not to support communism. This was a strange task given that the President had stated that 80% of those in South Vietnam would be sympathetic to communism. Lansdale and his team did try however, and used ‘dirty’ propaganda tactics to push home their case. Villages in South Vietnam were given documents that ‘proved’ that the North Vietnamese were murdering political opponents in the North and entering South Vietnam and killing innocent people. These documents were forged. Lansdale also used mercenaries from the Philippines to sabotage targets in the North. This was not successful and most were captured and made to stand trial in Hanoi. Another task Lansdale and his team had was to promote the success of the government of Diem. Figures were produced that proved South Vietnam, under the leadership of Diem, was undergoing an economic miracle. The exercise ignored the fact that $250 million a year was being injected into the South Vietnamese economy by America.

Lansdale’s team also trained the South Vietnam Army (ARVN). Ho Chi Minh’s army had gained valuable fighting experience during World War Two fighting the Japanese. After the war, the same was true in their campaign against the French. Compared to this army, the ARVN had little experience that would counter the North’s military strength. An American input was clearly needed.

The military advisors were sold to the US public as just that – advisors. As more arrived in South Vietnam, their non-combatant status was questioned. In 1959, this questioning became more vocal when the first advisors were killed.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/america_vietnam.htm

0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  1  
Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2014 10:07 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Foofie said: The people that run and own America are not folks like you or I. They are the landed gentry, so to speak. They gain from Israel the innovations that are used in multi-national corporations that make the wealthy class richer.

What "innovations" exactly?
I thought America had plenty of brainy millionnaire businessmen who don't need to go running to Israel for new ideas?


Shhhh! It's top secret WASP.
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  1  
Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2014 10:10 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Foofie's claim is probably closer to the truth; Israel has the greatest number of scientists and technicians as a percentage of their population - and much greater than the US by double. However, we must also understand that the US has in our population different skills and levels of education.


Don't sneeze at the innovations of Asian-Americans, or Indian-Americans (from India). Europeans might look good in a suit, or on a Hollywood movie set; however, they are not the uber menchen of WWII mythology, in my opinion.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2014 10:27 am
@Foofie,
I'm well aware of the contributions of Asians in the US. More than half the high tech workers in Silicon Valley are Asians.

This article is dated January 2014.
Quote:
Jan 2, 2014, 5:41am PST UPDATED: Jan 2, 2014, 10:17am PST
In 2013, Silicon Valley wages doubled the U.S. average
Silicon Valley was home to three of the top six counties nationwide for average weekly wages as of the second quarter of 2013. Workers in Santa Clara County averaged weekly paychecks almost double their counterparts across the U.S. Enlarge Photo
k4d
Silicon Valley was home to three of the top six counties nationwide for average weekly wages as of the second quarter of 2013. Workers in Santa Clara County averaged weekly paychecks almost double their counterparts across the U.S.



Lauren Hepler
Economic Development Reporter-
Silicon Valley Business Journal

New county-level federal data shows that, on average, Bay Area workers bring almost double the amount of money that their counterparts nationwide earn each week.
Workers in Santa Clara County pulled in an average $1,810 per week during the second quarter of 2013 — nearly double the national average of $921 per week, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In late December, the BLS released a breakdown of the counties across the country with the highest average weekly wages.
However, high earners in the region are likely over over-represented, since the BLS measured average wages instead of median wages. And Silicon Valley's affluence cuts two ways, with high relative income driving rent increases and a self-perpetuating cycle of wage inflation as area companies compete for talent.


It also means that the cost of living is also very high.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 05:53 am
@oralloy,
Control of Iraq and Syria as of July 15:
http://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/2000px-iraq21.png
http://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/2000px-syria4.png
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

T'Pring is Dead - Discussion by Brandon9000
Another Calif. shooting spree: 4 dead - Discussion by Lustig Andrei
Friends don't let friends fat-talk - Discussion by hawkeye10
Before you criticize the media - Discussion by Robert Gentel
Fatal Baloon Accident - Discussion by 33export
The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - Discussion by bobsal u1553115
Robin Williams is dead - Discussion by Butrflynet
 
Copyright © 2022 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 01/21/2022 at 12:39:27