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Seattle Approves $15/Hour Min Wage

 
 
Germlat
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 03:52 pm
@Baldimo,
I agree. People are not hungry for success in many developed countries these days. My father (German) was told to leave home and become a man as a teenager. He earned a PhD in chemistry and became a successful business man. He taught me no work is shameful. I believe in rewards based on merit. Societal influence is very compelling ....I read somewhere this generation of kids is the first to be less educated than their parents (in the U.S.). Why does the standard need to continuously be lowered in education and expectations? Maybe were in denial....
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 03:57 pm
@Germlat,
Quote:
.I read somewhere this generation of kids is the first to be less educated than their parents (in the U.S.). Why does the standard need to continuously be lowered in education and expectations?

Americans now spend more years in school than their parents, but college is the new High School. American youth think that they are the bestest and brightest ever however, which is a big problem.

" A man has got to know his limitations"
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 05:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hard work has been down played and even degraded over the last few generations. Education has been over hyped as the only way to succeed. It has led to a generation of educated idiots who have no skills to survive but sure do have lots of opinion.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 05:38 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Hard work has been down played and even degraded over the last few generations. Education has been over hyped as the only way to succeed. It has led to a generation of idiots who have the delusion that they are educated because they have sat in classrooms for years doing very little who have no skills to survive but sure do have lots of ignorant opinions.

FIXED

My daugher who is three years out with a BS working her way up fast at Microsoft thanks me constantly for bring her up differently. She pouted for a couple a months out of school when the right $40k offer did not happen (she had two but they were for jobs that did not go anywhere). Then she got to work. She says that her generation whines constantly, they have no resilience, and they are delusional most of the time. What make it worse is that she has spent these three years in Seattle and DC, where some of the brightest youth go after school.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 05:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Starbucks, one of the most progressive companies out there on treating employees well, was not in favor of this wage and has announced that they will cut benefits to compensate.


1. How ******* progressive of them. They feel no need to have their valued employees come home with a living wage.

2. With ACA available cheaply for exactly this scenario, Starbucks dumps over priced private unregulated insurance and forces these blood sucking death paneled no preexisting condition cockaroach mother ******* insurance companies to sell reasonably priced insurance to everybody because federal law requires them to spend $.80 out of every premium dollar to be spent on treatment. AND the employees get a living wage. PLUS the insurance companies get what they always clamed they wanted: a universal risk pool. I'm an avowed capitalist. I know what this sounds like: win/win/win to me.
Germlat
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 06:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I still prefer capitalism to socialism.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 06:35 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:
I still prefer capitalism to socialism.
Socialism is the philosophy of robbers.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 09:53 am
@bobsal u1553115,
This is the second time you have claimed something that doesn't make sense from your postings. How can you support the ACA and be a capitalist? You are not a capitalist, you are a socialist. You want a very limited free market in which business can operate. It's your rules or no business. Your belief in redistribution runs counter to being a capitalist.

You are what we refer to as a poser. You make claims that make you sound good but when you really get down to it you are all talk. You still haven't explained how you are a Republican. Like I said lots of claims but no substance to back it up.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 10:04 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Germlat wrote:
I still prefer capitalism to socialism.
Socialism is the philosophy of robbers.


I haven't seen where anyone here has proposed that we adopt socialism.

Saying this, government should play a role when the private sector cannot, or will not, reasonably perform a critical function (e. g., law enforcement).

David, do you propose that we terminate Medicare and social security?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 10:09 am
@Baldimo,
The ACA is anything but socialistic. It is really a set of regulations applicable to our healthcare system. It retains private doctors, hospitals, pharma, and even health insurance companies.

Do you really want to go back to the old system under which insureds are excluded from, or kicked out of, coverage because (god forbid) they are sick? Do you want the good old days when up to 50 million are uninsured, when 45,000 die annually due to lack of coverage, when people cannot change jobs or become self-employed because they would lose coverage, etc.?
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 10:23 am
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
John Stuart Mill
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 10:23 am
@Advocate,
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Do you really want to go back to the old system under which insureds are excluded


I want a new system, one that works. One that we can afford.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 11:41 am
@Advocate,
Good to know that you live in an all or nothing world. So it's either the ACA or the old system? Well based on that, I want the old system back. It sure beat the hell out of the new prices that I have seen since the enactment of the ACA. I'm paying about what Obama said I would be saving. I'm -$2400 a year instead of +%2400 per year in income. Next month we get to see where next years prices will go.

Is it selfish to think this way? Yes it is, but I'm the only person looking out for me and mine. You guys are doing it.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 03:45 pm
@hawkeye10,
Germany has had a similar system for about 100 years, and it works perfectly, and is inexpensive.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 03:46 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Good to know that you live in an all or nothing world. So it's either the ACA or the old system? Well based on that, I want the old system back. It sure beat the hell out of the new prices that I have seen since the enactment of the ACA. I'm paying about what Obama said I would be saving. I'm -$2400 a year instead of +%2400 per year in income. Next month we get to see where next years prices will go.

Is it selfish to think this way? Yes it is, but I'm the only person looking out for me and mine. You guys are doing it.


Are you stupid? What you are saying about what you pay is anecdotal. The ACA is cheaper and will get even cheaper still.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 09:01 am
@Advocate,
It's only anecdotal because it doesn't fit what Obama promised. I'm not a minority in this cost thing, millions of Americans were effected and many million more are going to effected once all the delays in the ACA kick in. Just wait.

I love how all you lefties want to claim evidence against your causes are anecdotal. Whether it is providing proof of self-defense shootings, or talking about how the ACA increased prices on insurance. It it doesn't fit your claims even though there is plenty of proof, it is always anecdotal. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Hows the weather there?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 02:09 pm
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In the heart of North Dakota's Bakken Formation lies a free-market poster child—a spot where fast-food workers earn multiples of the $7.25 federal minimum hourly wage.

"Our starting wage out there is $11, and that's just to start," Jon Munger said about his Williston, North Dakota, Hardee's franchise. "We've got people at $13, $14, $15 at the crew level." Management positions fetch as much as $20 per hour.
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Two miles away at Buffalo Wild Wings, franchise owner Dani Reichenberger said she pays "more than twice the minimum wage for kitchen staff."

Because the housing market is so pricey, Reichenberger provides a housing allowance for her general manager and rents a home to other managers for submarket rates.

At the Williston McDonald's, pay starts at no less than $11 per hour, said Mike Kelley, a franchisee for 40 years who's seen the ebb and flow of the area's fortunes. His employees are also guaranteed a wage review every 750 hours worked, which almost always results in a raise.

Kelley's hiring pool would dry up if he tried to pay someone minimum wage
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To counteract higher wages, franchise operators have pared down and priced up.

At Hardee's, Munger uses labor-saving devices, like self-ordering kiosks and automated training systems to cut down on costs. He also eliminated a hostess program and a roast beef slicer position. Customers feel the pinch too — prices are about 20 percent to 30 percent higher in Williston than his average restaurant.

Buffalo Wild Wings has adjusted its labor structure and become "very strict with inventory," Reichenberger said.

McDonald's makes up for bigger labor costs with increased volume and higher prices.

"A lot of McDonald's in the nation have a dollar menu," Kelley said. "Well, our dollar menu is $1.39."

Still, expensive labor makes Kelley's business difficult to run — a reality that other franchisees may soon face in places that have passed higher minimum wages.

Putting in these artificial wage floors hampers an economy and prices unskilled workers out of the market, Perry said.

As for $15, the hourly wage Seattle just passed, Perry says, "That, I think, is kind of an economic death wish."


http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/minimum-wage-bottom-line-place-n136491

Mark Perry, a professor of economics and finance at the University of Michigan's Flint campus.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 05:03 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Hows the weather there?


Talk about fantasy worlds, B, you thought you joined up to advance democracy when little did you know you were supporting a gigantic series of war crimes and terrorist actions.

The USA is one big Disneyland.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 05:37 pm
@JTT,
What is the name of the advanced democracy country you come from JTT?
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2014 05:39 pm
@Germlat,
And you fit in perfectly in LaLa Land.
 

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