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Should "as 'murder'" be "as 'murderer'"?

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oristarA
 
Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 11:40 pm

Context:

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia as 'murder'
More:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014planemissing/2014-03/25/content_17376415.htm
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 11:43 pm
@oristarA,
DAVID wrote:
Shoud be:

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia of being a murderer

or

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia of 'murder'
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 11:55 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

DAVID wrote:
Shoud be:

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia of being a murderer

or

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia of 'murder'



Cool.
Thanks.
But let's see whether there will be a better choice.
Wilso
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:19 am
"accuse Malaysia of murder" sounds more correct when dealing with an entity such as a country. "being a murderer" seems to better describe an individual.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:33 pm
Malaysia = Malaysia's Flight 370

It is a poorly written headline.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 01:42 pm
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:

Malaysia = Malaysia's Flight 370

It is a poorly written headline.

Maybe thay are mad because the government of Malaysia
is not more aggressive in its rescue efforts??
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 04:22 pm
@oristarA,

Quote:
Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia of 'murder'


I'd choose this one too. Remember it's only a headline.

Note the quotation marks: they are correct, that's the important word which has been used in the families' accusation.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2014 05:32 pm
@McTag,
McTag: Remember it's only a headline.

Good point, McTag.
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anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 12:51 am
@oristarA,
Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia as 'murderer' or of murder

More: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014planemissing/2014-03/25/content_17376415.htm

anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 12:55 am
@Wilso,
Quote:
"accuse Malaysia of murder" sounds more correct when dealing with an entity such as a country. "being a murderer" seems to better describe an individual.


We have found our psycho.
Wilso
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 01:02 am
@anonymously99,
anonymously99 wrote:

Quote:
"accuse Malaysia of murder" sounds more correct when dealing with an entity such as a country. "being a murderer" seems to better describe an individual.


We have found our psycho.


We have found our fuckwit
anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 01:04 am
@Wilso,
Who said that. Shocked
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 03:16 am
@anonymously99,
anonymously99 wrote:

Families of Chinese passengers accuse Malaysia as 'murderer' or of murder

More: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2014planemissing/2014-03/25/content_17376415.htm




After I posted the thread here, ChinaDaily quickly edited their report, correcting the errors.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 03:41 am
"accuse Malaysia as murderer" is not something that a native English speaker would say. I'm not an English language scholar. I'm sure there are many uses of the language that would sound alien to me, which are technically correct. That may be the case here, but it just sounds completely wrong, and the headline from a newspaper from a non-english speaking country is not the best reference. Newspapers in general are not good references for the correct use of language.
anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 11:56 am
@Wilso,
The English Language. Shocked
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 12:19 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso: I'm sure there are many uses of the language that would sound alien to me, which are technically correct.
--------------

That's an oft repeated falsehood, Wilso.

Wilso: Newspapers in general are not good references for the correct use of language.

Actually they are a recognized register which language scientists use to determine the English use in the newspaper register. Smile
anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 12:56 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Actually they are a recognized register which language scientists use to determine the English use in the newspaper register.


Why would scientists pay to use words?
anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 12:58 pm
@anonymously99,
Shocked Shocked Shocked
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 01:08 pm
@anonymously99,
A: Why would scientists pay to use words?
/////

They don't pay, A, they study corpuses of language for the four major registers of English: speech, fiction, newspaper and academic. They do this to see how language use varies between the registers.
anonymously99
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2014 01:32 pm
@JTT,
Old fashioned?, registers.
 

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